It would including all big game in the US. The 30-30 has killed a pile of NA over the last few centuries.

This post be much awkward.

Short answer: Yes.

Although certainly wouldn't be my first choice for griz.

If you can shoot fast enough it'll work for elephants, rhinos, and Cape Buffalo.

Winner.

".308 pleaty of taking anything in North America?"

To the OP:

I hope English isn't your native language.

the 30-30 did it until the wildlife got wise and quit dieing when shot through the vials with a 170 grain flat point.

I've killed a pile of NA using nothing more than a .22

Yes

Interesting,the .30-30 is 120 years old,so much for a "few centuries."

I do think that Ingwe was using it before it was invented, so it's possible.

If we want to nit pick, it has been alive in three different centuries. But back to the initial statement, with new premium bullets the .308 is better than it has ever been.

It gets along just fine with standard cup and core bullets too.

I'd use the .308 on everything in the US other than grizzly and brown bear.

With a 180gr TSX, I think a 308 is adequate for interior griz. The coastal bears can get twice that size though, so it certainly would not be my first pick for those.

I watched an 8ft Brownie, standing on his hind legs, take an 8mm rem/mag right in the center of his chest from less than 20yd, he still managed to run nearly 100yd, luckily it was away from us.

That must have been a hell of a movie..

! TFF!

the 30-30 did it until the wildlife got wise and quit dieing when shot through the vials with a 170 grain flat point.

Mr. scouttracker, That is a lucid, intelligent, well thought-out post. But, what is a .308 Pleaty?

Take_a_knee - "If you can shoot fast enough..." poachers using old FN FAL's (and like stuff) show that the .308/7.62NATO can kill these animals faster then they can re-produce. Pump enough rounds into them, fast enough and even Godzilla goes down. Homesteader.

RevMike - "I do think that Ingwe was using it before it was invented, so it's possible. ". Was that in before the stone ax period ? LOL Homesteader

What bullet was used?

Yes, long before. I think he used a rock to carve a picture of it in the side of a cave someplace.

A South African Game Warden wrote and article on "stopping rifles" years ago in Rifle Mag. He said guys there were about evenly divided between using a 375 or larger bolt gun and an FAL. Both were issued for carry, and Cape Buff was typically what they had to go put down with an occasional lion.

What bullet did my bud use on the Brownie? It was factory Remington is all I can remember. We were both living in the barracks at Ft Wainwright in 79 and the rifle and ammo were purchased in Fairbanks. My guess is a Cor-loct of 200+ grains.

I think it was when he was inventing dirt.

KDK - "...when he was inventing dirt. " Wow...wonder what he could tell me about my backyard? Looks pretty INGWE to me.
Homesteader

the 308 many capability has. even much in distant past did NA animals die happily with bullets having similarity to. GD

Big piles of smoking dog turds?

Hey, I killed a ground squirrel that had climbed a dead tree with a .45-70 bolt action once, even though I completely missed it! Yes its true, the squirrel tumbled out of the tree stone dead, all I found was a tiny drop of blood from its nose. Figured that big old bullet passing by must have killed it from the shock wave traveling up to its brain. Try that with your puny .308 Windsock or whatever.

The largest animal I've killed with my .308 Remington carbine was a bull moose in Saskatchewan, Canada. Two shots through the chest did the job efficiently for me. I shot 180 grain Remington core-lokt ammo.

Sherwood

I think I need to locate a 308 pleaty most rikki tikki before my next mastadon hunt safari thingy.

Not all that long ago I read that the .308 Win had overtaken the '06 in popularity.

Ask me & I'd say the .280 Rem is the best cartridge for hunting ALL North American big game. Ask me again & I'd say the .308 Win is second best.

KDK - can't keep cattle, horses or even goats...natures fertilizer. Just think...no BS would mean no used car salesman or bank loan officers. Homesteader

The .308 Winchester is the only cartridge I have ever known to be uniformly praised and traded off by hunters after they gained some experience with it.

It is a compact no frills achiever that can be built or bought in compact rifle formats and heavy barrel tack drivers. With modern bullets, it would take imagination and ignorance to slander it.

You said ingwielike, I just pictured an old dude smoking turds...

KDK - just saw your post...mental image almost blew my breakfest. Homesteader.

Sorry man. But blame the old dude.

I would use my 308 on any NA game that I would ever hope to hunt. This includes elk.

The .308 Pleaty is capable of taking any animal anywhere! Mr. Pleaty was a genius when he designed such a revolutionary cartridge.

I hear it is a real PIA to reload, however-- straight wall that headspaces on the shoulder.

When I was a kid I read Sports Afield and the the gun guy was Pete Brown. He had an article on the 308 as an all around. He was on different hunts including a grizzly with a 7x57, proghorn with a 270 and Javalina in the jungle with a 243. He wished he had a 308 in all cases. I have never owned a 308. I wish I still had the magazine however.

Sounds like a good article to search out.

If I recall correctly, he did shoot a griz with that 7X57, but his companion choked and "saved" Brown by putting another shot into the bear.

I always liked Brown, but he never go the play that O'Conner and Page did.

The last 5 elk I have killed have all been with a .308 Winchester. Each required only one shot.

3 with 165 grain Sierra HPBT Game Kings,
2 with (gasp).... 175 grain Sierra Match Kings.

I cannot count the # of Mule deer that I have shot or been acting as guide/pack mule, and let newbies shoot, using one of my .308s.

It may not be up to the horsepower or premium bullet standards of some, but using a .308 has filled my chest freezer every year with meat. The little .308 pop guns have helped me fill some other folk's freezers who, due to age or financial situations, needed a helping hand.

Cheers All

tsk tsk.

Yeah I know

Fact is when you zip one right below their ear hole, it is lights out. That, or you double lung them, they keel over and die just like being shot with a "premium" bullet.