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Posted By: JGRaider Nosler 48 Patriot - 08/25/14
Anybody tried one of these out yet? I remember a thread about it a few months ago, wondering how they perform, particularly the 7-08.
Posted By: bobnob17 Re: Nosler 48 Patriot - 08/25/14
They are discount retail at over 2 grand down here. For that sort of brass I would expect very high standards of assembly and finish.

For the reason of pricing there are very few on the ground in these parts.

Sorry that doesn't help you I know.
Posted By: JGRaider Re: Nosler 48 Patriot - 08/25/14
$1299 shipped here. Not a bad deal I don't think.
Posted By: Hammerdown Re: Nosler 48 Patriot - 08/25/14

One must make them self happy.

They look like a nice rifle.

7-08 are nice, great choice.
Posted By: bobnob17 Re: Nosler 48 Patriot - 08/25/14
Yes they do appear in specs to be good'uns. That's why I know what the asking price is here. frown

I can get into a Kimber for a few hundred less so might go that way.
Posted By: VaHillbilly Re: Nosler 48 Patriot - 08/25/14
2K? Good Gawd!...............I have been tempted to try one but My guess is that they have that thick wristed B&C stock like the B&C on the Mod 70 EW that I detest, until I can actually handle one (which will probably be never in My neck of the woods) I will have to pass.....................Hb
Posted By: JGRaider Re: Nosler 48 Patriot - 08/25/14
I understand some don't like the stock ergos. I have B&C on a Tikka and like it fine, so I know what I'm getting into there.
Posted By: STS45 Re: Nosler 48 Patriot - 08/25/14
One of my hunting partners has has the Patriot in 30-06. He loves it. I've shot is several times and its is a very nice, well built rifle. He only shoots factory and I've seen groups hovering around one inch at 100 yds when I've shot it.

I wouldn't pay $2000 for one, but for around $1300 I think they are a lot of rifle for the money.
Posted By: dogcatcher223 Re: Nosler 48 Patriot - 08/25/14
Originally Posted by JGRaider
I understand some don't like the stock ergos. I have B&C on a Tikka and like it fine, so I know what I'm getting into there.


They won't out shoot a Tikka regardless, so what is the point?
Posted By: Fotis Re: Nosler 48 Patriot - 08/25/14
They shoot great!!!!!!!!!
Posted By: JGRaider Re: Nosler 48 Patriot - 08/25/14
Originally Posted by dogcatcher223
Originally Posted by JGRaider
I understand some don't like the stock ergos. I have B&C on a Tikka and like it fine, so I know what I'm getting into there.


They won't out shoot a Tikka regardless, so what is the point?


That very well could be true, but it's a want thing, 'ya know?
Posted By: bobnob17 Re: Nosler 48 Patriot - 08/25/14
Tikkas are nice, but there are a lot of compromises in their design. Depending on your use, those compromises might not matter. To some others they do.

Posted By: bsa1917hunter Re: Nosler 48 Patriot - 08/25/14
Originally Posted by JGRaider
Originally Posted by dogcatcher223
Originally Posted by JGRaider
I understand some don't like the stock ergos. I have B&C on a Tikka and like it fine, so I know what I'm getting into there.


They won't out shoot a Tikka regardless, so what is the point?


That very well could be true, but it's a want thing, 'ya know?


JG, the Patriot looks like a very nice rifle. I'm sure they are a shooting sombeesh and the Tikka statement by dogcatcher is downright ridiculous (not unusual for him). I have a CZ 550 American that can shoot circles around most Tikka's day in and day out. My model 70's keep right up with them as well. I'd say if you want it, go for it. It might just surprise you and then you can let us know just how good they are..
Posted By: JGRaider Re: Nosler 48 Patriot - 08/25/14
Was hoping you'd chime in BSA. Probably gonna spring for one just 'cause I want one.
Posted By: bobnob17 Re: Nosler 48 Patriot - 08/26/14
Some say they are a much refined redesign of the Howa 1500. Some might disagree but I see that as a positive.

Posted By: VaHillbilly Re: Nosler 48 Patriot - 08/26/14
Originally Posted by dogcatcher223
Originally Posted by JGRaider
I understand some don't like the stock ergos. I have B&C on a Tikka and like it fine, so I know what I'm getting into there.


They won't out shoot a Tikka regardless, so what is the point?
Maybe, maybe not but at least it wont REEK of cheapness....LOL.........I'd say if you can live with the stock it should be an excellent well made rifle................Hb
Posted By: geedubya Re: Nosler 48 Patriot - 08/26/14
JG,

if you get one, knock the new off it, and find you don't like it, get in touch with me. I'm a sucker for pre-enjoyed rifles. I only have four 7-08s in house at the moment, and I have had great luck with the Nosler Custom Sporters.

Best,

GWB
Posted By: elkhunternm Re: Nosler 48 Patriot - 08/26/14
Originally Posted by JGRaider
Was hoping you'd chime in BSA. Probably gonna spring for one just 'cause I want one.
Excellent reason! grin
Posted By: JGRaider Re: Nosler 48 Patriot - 08/26/14
I know I can count on you geedub....appreciate the help fellas!
Posted By: dogcatcher223 Re: Nosler 48 Patriot - 08/26/14
Very few guns can hang with sako barrels. Keep lying to yourselves.
Posted By: starsky Re: Nosler 48 Patriot - 08/26/14
And even fewer run 223s on long actions. Keep blowing smoke up your own ass.
Posted By: bobnob17 Re: Nosler 48 Patriot - 08/26/14
The short cartridges on the long action is one of the compromises I spoke about above. So is the small and fiddly ejection/loading port.

Not picking a fight; I agree on the quality of those Tikka barrels but the rest of the rifle is a series of compromises.
Posted By: EdM Re: Nosler 48 Patriot - 08/26/14
Does it really offer a whole lot over a Vanguard S2. A bit of weight and ?? I would own neither so I am agnostic here but curious on the real delta between the two for the delta $$$.
Posted By: dogcatcher223 Re: Nosler 48 Patriot - 08/26/14
Originally Posted by starsky
And even fewer run 223s on long actions. Keep blowing smoke up your own ass.


The OP mentioned 7-08. Try again.

Posted By: starsky Re: Nosler 48 Patriot - 08/26/14
7-08 on a long action is just as retarded as a 223 on a long action.
Posted By: dogcatcher223 Re: Nosler 48 Patriot - 08/26/14
Swap bolt stops, use a long action mag, and you never have worry about running heavies.

JG already has a Tikka 7-08 and he knows how well it shoots.


Posted By: starsky Re: Nosler 48 Patriot - 08/26/14
Why hinder yourself by running a 7-08 in a long action?
Posted By: Kaleb Re: Nosler 48 Patriot - 08/26/14
Lol why was a tikka ever mentioned? OP asked about a nosler. A long action 708 does sound cool...grin
Posted By: dogcatcher223 Re: Nosler 48 Patriot - 08/26/14
Because the OP has a Tikka and has raved about its accuracy in the past. Therefore, buying another 7-08 is a gamble.

Starsky, lets go shooting sometime. I will bring a Tikka, you bring whatever...I'm setting my gong at 700 this weekend, should be fun.
Posted By: starsky Re: Nosler 48 Patriot - 08/26/14
I'd take ya up on that offer, but I'm out of state at school right now. Coming back this weekend, but have archery elk on the menu. Thanks though
Posted By: dogcatcher223 Re: Nosler 48 Patriot - 08/26/14
C's get degrees.
Posted By: bobnob17 Re: Nosler 48 Patriot - 08/26/14
Originally Posted by EdM
Does it really offer a whole lot over a Vanguard S2. A bit of weight and ?? I would own neither so I am agnostic here but curious on the real delta between the two for the delta $$$.


Well at $2k+ here for the Patriot vs $600 or less for the Vanguard / Howa I don't the difference is enough. But I don't doubt the Patriot is superior in every way except price.

The Patriot looks the sort of rifle to inspire pride of ownership too.
Posted By: Sakohunter264 Re: Nosler 48 Patriot - 08/27/14
Got an email from nosler today, the magazine length on the 7mm-08 is 2.875". Not much room to stretch out those long Bergers.
Posted By: Sakohunter264 Re: Nosler 48 Patriot - 08/27/14
I'm going with the 6.5x284.
Posted By: JGRaider Re: Nosler 48 Patriot - 08/27/14
Originally Posted by Sakohunter264
Got an email from nosler today, the magazine length on the 7mm-08 is 2.875". Not much room to stretch out those long Bergers.


Same measurement I got from Nosler as well. I'm not really interested in Bergers though for this rifle. Probably going to stick with 140 AB's.
Posted By: Sakohunter264 Re: Nosler 48 Patriot - 08/31/14
Has anybody tried one yet.
Posted By: JGRaider Re: Nosler 48 Patriot - 09/05/14
Looking forward to being the guinea pig........Patriot 48 in 7mm08, Leupy DD's, Burris Signature rings, VX3 3.5-10x40 CDS.

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Posted By: bsa1917hunter Re: Nosler 48 Patriot - 09/05/14
Nice rifle. I'll bet it is going to be a shooter..
Posted By: Sakohunter264 Re: Nosler 48 Patriot - 09/05/14
Nice rifle. My 6.5x284 arrives tomorrow. How much do you estimate the rifle weighs?
Posted By: Sakohunter264 Re: Nosler 48 Patriot - 09/05/14
Also interested in the throat, how does the rifle feed?
Posted By: Savage_99 Re: Nosler 48 Patriot - 09/05/14
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It's just a push feed action with a third rate safety and a plastic stock on a Howa action. Nothing to be proud of.

MSRP $1695 <--- laugh
Posted By: JGRaider Re: Nosler 48 Patriot - 09/05/14
Sako, guessing right at 8lbs, maybe slightly less, but that is just a guess. It feeds the 140AB's @ 2.803 very well, action is very slick, it does have a great feel to it overall. I'll put the comparator to some dummy rounds tomorrow, as I like to seat bullets very near the lands, magbox allowing of course.
Posted By: ingwe Re: Nosler 48 Patriot - 09/05/14
JGR: I dunno about their current run but their first couple runs weren't exactly home runs�..
Posted By: JGRaider Re: Nosler 48 Patriot - 09/05/14
We'll know before too long Poobah. Hopefully this one will make me proud.
Posted By: Sakohunter264 Re: Nosler 48 Patriot - 09/05/14
Glad you are happy with the overall aesthetics. Look forward to see how they shoot. I'll post mine in the thread tomorrow.
Posted By: VaHillbilly Re: Nosler 48 Patriot - 09/05/14
I'll bet she's a shooter Raider.............Good luck............Hb
Posted By: powdr Re: Nosler 48 Patriot - 09/07/14
A case full of powder in a 7mm-08 w/a 140gr Partition or Ballistic Tip will kill an awful lots of game...and I don't just mean hogs and deer. With a 160 AccuBond...look out! powdr
Posted By: BrandonGleason Re: Nosler 48 Patriot - 09/07/14
Very nice looking set up. I'll be looking forward to a range report. Best of luck wih her!
Posted By: JGRaider Re: Nosler 48 Patriot - 09/07/14
Got her on paper, then fiddled around with some charges, seating depths, etc. After fiddling around with it for the past few days, it's seemed to settle into this range of charges. The details:
140 accubond
2.800 COAL
Nosler brass
Big Game
Fed 215M primers (experience in other 7-08's with Big Game showed that more often
than not, mag primers with this ball powder seemed to tighten things
up rather nicely.)

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Posted By: bsa1917hunter Re: Nosler 48 Patriot - 09/07/14
Looks like you might have a good shooter there. Did it feed and function good too?
Posted By: JGRaider Re: Nosler 48 Patriot - 09/07/14
Everything functions very smoothly, except for the mullet on the trigger sometimes. Interesting that this particular rifle likes more jump than what I'm used to.
Posted By: chas05 Re: Nosler 48 Patriot - 09/08/14
I used a Nosler rifle in 325 wsm, I believe, one evening last May outside Uvalde. No flies on that thang whatsoever...

Charlie
Posted By: WhelenAway Re: Nosler 48 Patriot - 09/08/14
Don . . .

It's ok to have your preferences, and we have all seen you post them many times.

But your opinion of another guy's new rifle is irrelevant, so keep it to yourself.
Posted By: Savage_99 Re: Nosler 48 Patriot - 09/08/14
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It's just a push feed action with a third rate safety and a plastic stock on a Howa action. Nothing to be proud of.

MSRP $1695 <--- laugh

Posted By: ingwe Re: Nosler 48 Patriot - 09/08/14
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Posted By: Savage_99 Re: Nosler 48 Patriot - 09/08/14
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Posted By: GregW Re: Nosler 48 Patriot - 09/08/14
Did you know you are the laughing stock of the forum?
Posted By: ingwe Re: Nosler 48 Patriot - 09/08/14
Don, as a child before his haircut:

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Posted By: JGRaider Re: Nosler 48 Patriot - 09/08/14
grin
Posted By: Teal Re: Nosler 48 Patriot - 09/08/14
Originally Posted by Savage_99
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Those don't appear to be the same bolts.

The ring around the pin is different in each and if you look at the left pic - at the 3 o'lock there seems to be a dent in the bolt edge that isn't there in the right picture. (would be at 6 o'clock in that one)

Ejectors are colored differently as well.
Posted By: elkhunternm Re: Nosler 48 Patriot - 09/08/14
Congrats on the rifle JGRaider. Looks to be winner! smile
Posted By: Savage_99 Re: Nosler 48 Patriot - 09/08/14
They are not the same bolts!

I was showing the Nosler Poooosh feed bolt that is not CRF.

Someone called it a Howa in XXXX. grin
Posted By: bearstalker Re: Nosler 48 Patriot - 09/08/14
Originally Posted by Savage_99
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How is it possible to be so [bleep] stupid!?
Posted By: Teal Re: Nosler 48 Patriot - 09/08/14
Originally Posted by Savage_99
They are not the same bolts!

I was showing the Nosler Poooosh feed bolt that is not CRF.

Someone called it a Howa in XXXX. grin


You have them presented as a bolt with an issue on the left and then that same bolt coming back with the issue still present on the right.

You're ruining this fine forum with innuendo of mis-repair. Please stop.
Posted By: Savage_99 Re: Nosler 48 Patriot - 09/08/14
I used the picture of the Pooosh feed Nosler bolt to show that it lacks Control Round Feed. CRF is a desirable feature on upscale hunting rifles.

On top of all that it's Howa action! LOL
Posted By: Savage_99 Re: Nosler 48 Patriot - 09/08/14
Here is the site that tells the story of the Nosler bolt face.

http://forum.nosler.com/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=19904
Posted By: Teal Re: Nosler 48 Patriot - 09/08/14
Originally Posted by Savage_99
I used the picture of the Pooosh feed Nosler bolt to show that it lacks Control Round Feed. CRF is a desirable feature on upscale hunting rifles.

On top of all that it's Howa action! LOL


You've made no such assertion in the post. Please stop. You're ruining a fine forum for people to discuss firearms and hunting like gentlemen. You simply posted a picture with no explanation, leaving others to assume you meant the rifle in question. It's unbecoming of civilized sportsmen to insinuate such a thing.

Posted By: JGRaider Re: Nosler 48 Patriot - 09/08/14
From what I discovered, maybe by our own Mule Deer, it is not a Howa action, but it is a Nosler proprietary action designed by the same guy that designed the Howa actions. A close similarity, but not exactly a Howa action copy. Maybe MD will chime in a correct me if/where I'm wrong. I'm really not too worried about it anyway though. Looks like it's gonna shoot.

Savage, in case you missed it, your link is from a thread over 2 yrs old.
Posted By: WhelenAway Re: Nosler 48 Patriot - 09/08/14
Howa actions have features I prefer to the Rem. 700, and although haven't owned one, I am always looking for the right one.

Howa action or not, I'd be very happy with that rifle!

I have been looking at them too. It looks like a lot of rifle for the money.

It is a fine looking rifle, and looks like it is going to perform well for you.

Congrats!
Posted By: VaHillbilly Re: Nosler 48 Patriot - 09/08/14
Hell, what's wrong with a Howa action? I thought they were fine rifles, I know the few Howa rifle's I've been around functioned perfectly and accuracy was fine........................Hb
Posted By: Savage_99 Re: Nosler 48 Patriot - 09/08/14
The rifle lacks CRF and a three position safety that controls the firing pin. Not up to minimum standards.

Posted By: Rodell Re: Nosler 48 Patriot - 09/08/14
Originally Posted by Savage_99
The rifle lacks CRF and a three position safety that controls the firing pin. Not up to minimum standards.



Just like the AR's - and they hunt very dangerous game.
Posted By: VaHillbilly Re: Nosler 48 Patriot - 09/08/14
I'm not really a Model 70 fanboy, I've owned several but most were too heavy for My taste and CRF and three position safety's aren't very high on My priority list when I'm picking out a new rifle......................Hb
Posted By: geedubya Re: Nosler 48 Patriot - 09/08/14
Originally Posted by Savage_99
The rifle lacks CRF and a three position safety that controls the firing pin. Not up to minimum standards.



Amazing how one will spend so much time and energy pizzing on another guys stuff.

Get all ya' can, can all ya' get. Sit on the lid and pizz on the rest.

Best,

GWB
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