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Posted By: Hammerdown Range Report Bone Collector - 07/25/09
Well, I finally shot my T/C, Triumph B.C. today.

This gun shot very well.

Powder used Blackhorn 209
Primer used CCI-209
Bullets used, Powerbelts, Barnes Tipped MZ and Barnes Spit-Fire T-EZ

Blackhorn 209 is the only powder I used today.
Powerbelts were used first. 348 grain bullet. The group was 1 1/2 inch at 100 yards. This is about how my Knight would shoot these bullets.
I was using 100 grains of powder with this load.

Then I used the Barnes Tipped MZ 250 grain bullets. These bullets shot a bit tighter than the Powerbelts. I could get a, 1 inch group with these bullets. My gun, must have a tight bore or I was, use to using them Powerbelt bullets. I had to work at seating them down the bore.
I used 100 grains of powder with this load.


Lastly I tried, Barnes Spit-Fire T-EZ 250 grain bullets.
This bullet is a hole lot nicer to load.
I used 110 grains of powder with this load.
This load and my gun are like peanut butter and Jelly. They worked real well together.
I shot a .310 inch group with it. That will make you smile with a new smoke-pole.

I will continue to use Blackhorn 209 powder. It seams to work just fine for me.
I will also try the 290 grain tipped EZ load Spit-fire bullets.
I have other bullets to try with this new gun, like Nosler and Hornady.

Here are a few pictures from today.
This is my new gun.
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Here is a picture of the .310 inch group.

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Stuff on the tailgate. Just some things you might need while out shooting your front stuffer.

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I hope you all have a good day. I did.


Posted By: SKane Re: Range Report Bone Collector - 07/25/09
Randy-

Good to hear. TC's are notorious for tight bores.
How hard was it to seat the Barnes in your tube?
Nice shootin HD, did you clock any of you're loads? I was shooting my Omega today with BH 209 and 250gr SST's with 90 grns of BH 209 and getting killer groups, have not measured them but there in the 1/2 inch range.

How many shots were you getting bettween cleanings? Seems like I dont even need to clean with this powder.
Originally Posted by SKane
Randy-

Good to hear. TC's are notorious for tight bores.
How hard was it to seat the Barnes in your tube?


I would call it hard. I would bet about 80 lbs. of force. I think I read you should only need about 30 lbs. ??

Once I used the EZ bullets, heck with them hard to seat ones. Especially when the EZ shot so well.
Originally Posted by passport
Nice shootin HD, did you clock any of you're loads? I was shooting my Omega today with BH 209 and 250gr SST's with 90 grns of BH 209 and getting killer groups, have not measured them but there in the 1/2 inch range.

How many shots were you getting bettween cleanings? Seems like I dont even need to clean with this powder.


I would clean after every six shots. Mostly because it was a new rifle. Never had a hard time seating the EZ bullets or the Powerbelts.

When I shot that last group (.310) that was # 4, 5 and 6 .

I was thinking about only shooting two shot groups for a Black Powder gun. When are we ever going to shoot three times at one critter.

Clean up was easy with some Hoppe's #9

I never did check the speed today.

Good Times
Posted By: isaac Re: Range Report Bone Collector - 07/25/09
Thanks for the follow up, Hammerdown.

Much appreciated and it gives me a good jump on the purchases I need to make.
Originally Posted by Hammerdown
I shot a .310 inch group with it. That will make you smile with a new smoke-pole.


Or an old one, good shootin!
Posted By: SKane Re: Range Report Bone Collector - 07/25/09
Looks like I'll finally give the Blackhorn a try.
Too many good things being said from a great many peeps.
Originally Posted by SKane
Looks like I'll finally give the Blackhorn a try.
Too many good things being said from a great many peeps.



Please do, I would like to hear you're findings.
Originally Posted by SKane
Looks like I'll finally give the Blackhorn a try.
Too many good things being said from a great many peeps.


80 grains and the new Hornady 350s shoot very well in my Triumph.
Did not take long to find out your new Triunpth will shoot.

Fantastic .310 group.

Doc
Glad you posted your results, I'm thinking of trading in my Omega for the Triumph Bone Collector.
No arguing with those results... Great Shooting!
Posted By: isaac Re: Range Report Bone Collector - 07/29/09
In my opinion, it seems all the Bone Collector has over the other Triumph is more rubber.

I'm not seeing a justifiable reason for the 200 increase in price!

No doubt it's a good shooter but it seems a 200 dollar Waddell name and rubber add on to me.

It has a Stainless Steel tube, if that helps.

I was going to buy the Triumph, but the stock did not fit my face right. The Bone Collectors and Triumphs stocks are cut different.
The BC felt better to me when I mounted the weapon.

There was only a 100.00 diff. when I baught mine. I paid 609.00 for mine.

Hope this was a help.
Posted By: isaac Re: Range Report Bone Collector - 07/30/09
I know it's a great shooter,Hammerdown, my buddy has one and it's a very nice MZ.

Fit is important too, of course.

It's not the money so much as it is me analyzing why. Over-analyzing maybe!




I feel the same way, isaac.

It was all about fit for me.
I'm just glad that it shoots good.

Wish you luck.
Posted By: isaac Re: Range Report Bone Collector - 07/30/09
Quick aside...With a TC Triumph and the Leupold ultimate slam, can you get away with a low profile Talley or do you need to go to medium height?

Thanks.
Originally Posted by isaac


No doubt it's a good shooter but it seems a .............. rubber add on to me.


Normally, that's exactly what gets you to take it in the first place. wink
Posted By: isaac Re: Range Report Bone Collector - 07/30/09
"Hey Bobby...that package going out to Sean today needs to go to his Vermont address"!
Originally Posted by isaac
Quick aside...With a TC Triumph and the Leupold ultimate slam, can you get away with a low profile Talley or do you need to go to medium height?

Thanks.


You might have to call the people at Talley for that one. I don't know for sure.

On my gun I went with Leupold Q/R mounts and rings. Leupold II 2-7 X 33 LR. My rings are the low.
Hope this was a help.
H-down,
You got the dotz working at 150 and 200 yet???

Going out Saturday, to play with the dots. As long as there are no work emergencies.
Hopefully, I can work with some other loads too.

I had a chance to go to the range today.

I started off shooting Barnes 290 grain Spit-Fire EZ. This load, with 110 grains of powder (By VOLUME) gave me a 1 inch group at 100 yards.
Sighting in the dots, on the LR scope.
I had to sight in at 1 1/2" high at 100. To be about 1 1/2" low at 150 yards. Then backing out to 200 yards. Picking up the next dot, I would be about 1 1/2 - 2" low.
The dots in the Leupold LR do work for a muzzleloader rifle.

Other loads I tried.

I pumped the powder to 120 grains. with good results. (BH 209)

I tried Nosler, 260 grain Partition black powder bullets. This bullet gave me about 1 1/4" group at 100 yards.
I also tried Hornady, 300 grain Black Powder bullets. These bullets shot just as good as the Nosler's.

I also noticed the Nosler's and the Hornady bullets loaded just the same as the Barnes EZ did. With no problems.

Maybe next time I will bust out my "speedometer" to check the fps.

Happy Trails
Originally Posted by Hammerdown

I had a chance to go to the range today.

I started off shooting Barnes 290 grain Spit-Fire EZ. This load, with 110 grains of powder (By VOLUME) gave me a 1 inch group at 100 yards.
Sighting in the dots, on the LR scope.
I had to sight in at 1 1/2" high at 100. To be about 1 1/2" low at 150 yards. Then backing out to 200 yards. Picking up the next dot, I would be about 1 1/2 - 2" low.
The dots in the Leupold LR do work for a muzzleloader rifle.

Other loads I tried.

I pumped the powder to 120 grains. with good results. (BH 209)

I tried Nosler, 260 grain Partition black powder bullets. This bullet gave me about 1 1/4" group at 100 yards.
I also tried Hornady, 300 grain Black Powder bullets. These bullets shot just as good as the Nosler's.

I also noticed the Nosler's and the Hornady bullets loaded just the same as the Barnes EZ did. With no problems.

Maybe next time I will bust out my "speedometer" to check the fps.

Happy Trails



No excuses this up coming season with your new ML rig.

Doc

Yes I know.

It's all on me.

Have a good day.
Thanks for the write up. I just handled a Triumph in a local toy store today and wondered how it would shoot. I really like the idea of being able to remove the breechplug with fingers.

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