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A couple of days ago, I experienced one of those "Kodiak moments" (pun intended) that can only be described in the past tense. To try and recount what took place and make the most sense out of it has taken an overtime amount of the bearhuntr's thought and memory; it would be impossible to slow the clock down (again) as it seemingly was during the event. I'll do my best.

Last Monday (week ago,)the preacher and I headed out to the bait station. Pictures from our game camera indicated we had a pair of decent black bears coming in at varied times of the evening, though the cycle of every two days was now a routine. This would be the second evening of the cycle and prospects looked good; the bait had been hit regularly.

About an hour into the stand, the smaller of the two bears we had on film came in, and the preacher took him with a good shot through the shoulder. This sub 6'bear was a fine looking specimen and had a very full hide with no rubs. The one we really wanted to see (that sported the 5 1/2" front pad) had been real elusive and didn't show.

The next two evenings found nary a hit at the site at all. A quick couple of calls to those that keep track indicated that none of the neighboring sites had scored yet, so prospects were still looking good. GregP (from here at the campfire)went along: it was decided that he would be the shooter for the evening if a suitable blackie came in.

I had a bow stand fixed at about 15 paces and a rifle stand at about twenty from the bait. After re-baiting and completing a short honey burn, Gregp settled into the rifle stand, and I climbed into the other. We didn't wait long for the bears to start showing...

I motioned to Greg that I could hear a bear in the bottoms moving around and pointed in it's general direction. After a few minutes, the bear had come around and up the hill towards us, settling itself down about 40 or 50 yards behind our position. It could be heard sniffing from time to time, yet still held it's position behind us. Then we heard another bear, this one to the left of the first bear. Scant moments later, all hell broke loose!

Fur was flying and branches were snapping as the bears came in at top speed! The 3 brown bears that leaped over the spruce log to the right of our stands were longer than the 55 gallon bait drum by at least a foot; they were larger in girth as well. Great...where's momma?

Momma made her presence known to us immediately, but it was the chocolate colored boar to her left that had her undivided attention. She started huffing and showing her displeasure toward the boar for several minutes. (We never did figure out what the fracas was about. He might have wanted to try and mate her, or possibly wanted to get a hold of one of the offspring and invite it to dinner.) The sow continued huffing and making her presence know. Ultimately, the ploy worked; the boar left the immediate area, unhappy after being scolded by momma.

Meanwhile, back at the "ranch," Greg and I were trying to figure out how to chase off the teenagers while not provoking the sow, who at this time was still somewhat occupied with the boar. We both made hand and arm motions and talked to them in an attempt to get their attention. I took off my hat and threw it towards them, intent on getting my scent down there. When they ignored my hat (the toss was too short to draw them away from the bait) I wadded up one of my gloves and threw it. One of the bears backed off yet the other two remained. I decided to take a shot at the coffee can sitting close to the barrel. The can flew and the rapport of the shot sent the three packing down the hill. Finally! The site seemed to settle; momma made no more noise...the boar had moved on a ways...and the three amigos were out of there. Peace, brother!

I mentioned to Greg that things were now better as I had been worried about momma and that, "she would have been very sore at having been harassed by the boar and would not have been joyous at finding us between her and the rag-tag, fur ball siblings." Also, I mentioned that �I would sure have hated to have shot her.� It was cool to have 5 brown bears around for awhile.

After about 20 minutes, I considered getting down and heading to the barn. Greg's advice to set tight for a little longer convinced me, and it proved prudent. Our trail back to the road was directly inline with where momma had been. Greg mentioned that he hadn't actually heard momma leave. She never really had�

In the briefest of moments and with little warning, the three teens and momma came in, directly under my stand. Two were in the lead with momma and the third right behind. Their approach was quick and I had little time to react to what happened next. As soon as the sow cleared the log under my stand she turned, cocked her head towards Greg and I, and charged. Her momentum carried her bulky frame right up under my tree stand and, with no little force, she rammed her jaws into the bottom side of the framework. I immediately stood up with rifle in hand and both of us started yelling like banshees at her. It seemed like long moments but she came up again in seconds (as Greg tells me later) and this time managed to reach her jaws over the side of the folding stand. I jabbed the barrel of my 338 into her face and she reacted like she had been stabbed with a hot fireplace poker. After being thwarted on the right side of the stand, she shifted tactics and decided to come up on the left!

Understand, this platform is only two feet (24 paltry inches) wide; the length of it's floor three feet. It was designed to support up to 300 pounds; I weigh 215 of those 300, my rifle and water bottle about 10 more. Momma weighed about 600. Being up as high as she was, her only option for claw use was to hang onto the tree. Thank God for well built, American made, quality products!

When momma came up the last time, there was no doubt about what needed to be done. The safety came off and, as her head and jaws cleared the side of the stand, I pulled the 338�s trigger. I couldn�t shoulder the rifle so had to fire it freehand. The end of the barrel was already lower than the corner of her open maw; the bullet smacked her in the neck and coursed straight through her body. When she hit the ground she managed two steps and turned towards our direction. A second 275 grain A-Frame to the chest finished her , though the first was lethal. After we skinned this bear , it was clear that the first bullet went all of the way through her body. It exited her rear ham and left an inch and a half hole in it�s haunch prior to plowing into the ground below.

The air was thick with unbelief of the event that had just unfolded. All happened so quickly. Seemingly,time stood still. Greg finally broke the ice with a patented �oh scheet� expletive. I seconded his �commotion� with my own.

It�s important to know that friend Greg P. is a very handy fellow. He is an awesome hunter in the sense that he�s woods-wise, calm under pressure, and has talent in endeavors as varying as ballistics and tracking or game calling. He also carried a working cell phone and had tested it�s capability on a previous trip to the site! A quick call to friends Jay and Pete meant that reps from Fish and Game troopers and biologists were on the way. Their ETA would be approximately one hour. We might as well start the skinning task. Wrong again.

We heard branches breaking and the sound of heavy steps coming up from the bottoms. We knew (or at least felt) that the three teens were just behind us. These sounds were 120 degrees to the northwest. Three more brownies had scented the bait and were now within 25 yards of us. These guys (or gals) were larger. A sow (as big as momma was) and two more bears, as large or just slightly smaller then she was, were now 5 yards from the bait. We had not been able to leave the stands for a second time.

We yelled at the top of our lungs, broke branches, and continued in an attempt to thwart these rascals from coming in. We would have our friends walking into a real melee if these newcomers had an opportunity to reach the bait barrel. I had one cartridge left (for what ever reason had only brought four in) yet Greg had eight for his 375 H&H. He fired a shot to the can on the backstop and sent it flying. The bears flew also�about 65 yards. For a few minutes, they took cover behind some blow-downs . The scents surrounding the bait site were too much for these bears; they recommited to carefully �stalking� the barrel again. We yelled some more and Greg fired yet another 300 grainer into the barrel as a deterrent. The fellows should be here any time. Greg had 6 cartridges remaining. We kept yelling. The new trio kept stalking. Finally we heard the yells of our friends. I asked Greg to stay in the stand and maintain a birds-eye view of the bruins while I went the 100 yards to meet the crew coming in. As I hit the ground, Greg shouted at the bears and told me they were just behind the barrel now: thirty yards away.

I double timed it over to where the men were and apprised them of the situation. We made lots of noise upon reentering the site and friend Larry let loose with a barrage bomb (my descriptive of what it was; I still don�t know it�s proper name) that went up above the trees like an aerial bomb and exploded with a thunderous clap! The bears moved back fifty or so yards. Now, armed with sturdy men and an arsenal of weapons, Pete and I got to skinning the brownie. Greg P was sent back up the stand to maintain an aerial vigil, and Larry, Todd, and Jay formed a perimeter around us while we worked. We were on our way out 35 minutes later.

This was a sad event in retrospect. I never wanted to shoot a sow in DLP (defense of life or property.) We took every precaution one could think of to keep from having such a showdown as this one ended up to be. In retrospect, I am convinced that the original, chocolate colored boar that harassed momma probably set her off. I feel that she scented me; I never moved or made a noise until she charge up the tree. I should note that Greg and I concur on one fact; momma never made a sound once she started coming. She didn�t growl, grunt, huff or even break wind�she just came. Full speed ahead.I can still hear the noise her jaws (and nose) made when it smacked the bottom of my hanging stand. The sight of same will not leave for awhile either.

There are many more things I could say as to these events but time is short. If I make it back to the computer for a couple of minutes in the next few days I�ll consider myself lucky. In the meantime, the fact that Greg and I had EIGHT brown bears at our site at almost the same time still hasn�t fully sunken in yet. I�m sure it will soon.

Best,
bhtr
Heck of an experience....glad everybody came out in one piece.


HBB
Great story and better yet, glad to hear you gents came out on top in what could have been a really bad deal.
Well, that's a heck of a story and I'm glad it came out no worse than it did for you.
In retrospect what if anything could you do differently in terms of set up etc to avoid such a hazardous situation? (Not to be construed as a criticism.)
You mean you didn't have bear spray so you didn't have to shoot mama? (I'm being facitous or however you spell it) Glad things sorted out. That had to have caused the adrenalain pump to work over time. How many rounds do you think you will take next time? laugh laugh
If I ever take up that past time my stand will likely be 15 - 20 feet up. Doesn't sound like fun. 1Minute
I don't think I would bother washing my shorts out, I would just bury them in the woods. grin
whelennut
Thanks for the share of the story. Definitely sounds like an adventure.
Another reason why I gave up baiting, though I never had any confrontations in the past or even saw a grizz on my bait stands, I knew it was a possibility. Glad to hear you got the better end of that confrontation, having 6 brown bears coming to my bait site would be enough incentive for me to take it down and try another method! grin
I was happy to have been visiting you at the shop rather than the hospital, or worse yet, trying to think of something nice to say about you at the ceremony.

Eight brownies at the same time - imagine how it might have been if the bears were not endangered!

Helluvan experience!
that's some serious pucker factor.
Dude!

That is quite the story! Sounds like everyone stayed calm and collected through the adventure phase...but I'd be willing to bet the adrenaline damping required some high-grade medicinals grin.

I assume the brown-shirts were satisfied with the need for the outcome?
I think fruit of the loom makes brown just to make those occasions less embarrassing. Glad everything worked out for you.
Glad everything worked out for you guys. Go figure I was baiting for griz up in 20E and didnt get a any hits at any of our baits.
That's a crazy story! Luckily you're alright. Those Swift A-Frames are pretty impressive, ain't they? The exit wounds that the bullets leave are incredible, especially on brown bears. Mine had two exit holes that were easily 2" in length, if not more.

I think F&G is wrong on the brown bear pop. down on Kenai. Way more bears than they think, IMHO.

Did you snap some pics? grin
Liked your story....that would've made for some great video footage.
I'll bet you forgot to turn on the camera??? Am I right?

Dang that sounds exciting.
Gol-dang, Bearhunter - don't you know there are only 350 to 400 brown bears on the whole Kenai Peninsula? What are you doing hoggin' all them bears to your self. Shame on you!

Want some deck bears? smile

toltecgriz,

Truth of the matter is, I'm more prepared now than I was a week ago. I've baited for a number of years in the area (or close to where)I set up. Pards and I have taken 12 blackies out in the last 8 or 9 years and, though I've been close to many brownies at these sites, I've not come close to having a problem. My site is clean, I use small baits, lots of cover scents, and keep the people to a minimum. I am keyed on a proper mindset when in bear country and am always aware when approaching the bait. This time the sow had been harassed by a boar not many yards behind us...and that for 15 or 20 minutes. It is of interest to me that both GregP's and my scent were surely being passed straight to their position.

I still do not know why she decided to come for me. I'm halfways convinced that if Greg had been closer, she would have gone after him. Or, it might have been the black bear scent still on my jacket that she picked up on.

Anyway you slice it, the few seconds it took for her to come at me those three times didn't leave a whole lot of time to react to different tactics. I recognized the look in her face as one that said "I'm coming!" I've seen it before. A bear will sort of tilt and somewhat lower it's head slightly and stiffen up. When that happens you know it's next move is going to happen. Right away. You just never know if it's gonna go away or come at you. I've been inside the 4 yard line a few times and within the 2 yard a couple. First damn time I've been within the 6" line.

Finally, to answer your question...I cannot say what I'd have done differently. Yelling at it and giving it a snoot full of my scent and then wacking it in the face with a cold, steel rifle barrel did not get the point across. I do not hold the answers as to how to eliminate brown bears from coming to a bait site. Mores the pity.

I won't quit baiting on the Kenai; it's still a great way to introduce others to bear hunting. Especially for younger hunters, or even those oldsters new to the hunt. Thats why I bait anyway.

best,
bhtr
Originally Posted by Cariboujack
How many rounds do you think you will take next time? laugh laugh



Lots! blush

best,
bhtr
Originally Posted by whelennut
I don't think I would bother washing my shorts out, I would just bury them in the woods. grin
whelennut


I think the wifey did just that...grins

best,
bhtr
Bender,

I've told you this in person but will now make it public. Your site is less than 3/4 of a mile from mine. Watch yer azz!

You do know that I'll back you up anytime though, eh...

bhtr
Dennis,

You met Larry in person and (prior to that) on the phone. He was the first fella I tried to get ahold of. The Trooper "brown shirt" is a good guy that I've helped in the past...we are lucky to have these guys and are well served. S'now problemo here...

best,
bhtr
Joel,

I really, really, really feel your pain. I'll call my fedx contact and ship a couple up there for ya...grins



Matt,

I've taken a shine to the A-frames. They are wicked accurate in my winny. It will shoot close to the 22 250 some days.

As to your hypothesis on population...I'm with ya brother


best,
bhtr


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dennisinaz
I'll bet you forgot to turn on the camera??? Am I right?


yes... blush

bhtr
Originally Posted by las
Gol-dang, Bearhunter - don't you know there are only 350 to 400 brown bears on the whole Kenai Peninsula? What are you doing hoggin' all them bears to your self. Shame on you!

Want some deck bears? smile



Las,

I fear for you, man. There are several more deck bears headed your way. That's the part I'm most furious about. The teenagers will probably get into trouble down about where you live...or a boar will get them. They are old enough to make it on their own but might have some bad habits gleaned from momma.

Watch your backside...

best,
bhtr

ps. I thought it was 250 to 300????
Just reading your account of the day made my heart beat a bit faster...WOW

Nice to have you here telling us about it. Seems you and las seem to be having a Beary interesting spring. whistle
Every once in awhile a guy gets an experience that reminds him how good it is to be alive and in one piece!

The fewest rounds I ever have on me is around 15 for sheep hunting. I've had folks raise their eyebrows about that and for the most part I'd have to agree with them that I'm hauling needless weight around.

Still I've had to witness a bou finished off with a hatchet, I'd sure hate to try that trick on a bear.

glad you're okay bearhuntr, the name seems to fit even better now. (grin)
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You do know that I'll back you up anytime though, eh...

I know how far apart our spots are crazy and am quite aware of your attitude and willingness, and will say it's a comforting thought.

Randy almost had it right about your name! I should PM rick and make a special request for a screen name change for you..........to Bearhuntd laugh
grin

bhtr
Originally Posted by bearhuntr
Dennis,

You met Larry in person and (prior to that) on the phone. He was the first fella I tried to get ahold of. The Trooper "brown shirt" is a good guy that I've helped in the past...we are lucky to have these guys and are well served. S'now problemo here...

best,
bhtr


I suspected everything would be OK...but you never know. I'm guessing the teeth marks on the stand, the witnesses's accounts, and the rest of the party hanging around, sorta clinched the deal laugh.

I've never had one that close, trying to bite me or otherwise. I'm fairly certain that when they do get that close, there is only one appropriate reponse grin.

You heard anything from George on the other deal? I've been out of the loop, travelling, and haven't talked with him for a while.

DN
I saw in the paper today where the reporter said you were using "large bait" (donuts), and Larry recommended using smaller bait.

I have this lovely mental image at about 10 feet of one of my deck bears stretched out flat on his belly, his head shoved as far through the gate pickets as he could get it, tongue lapped out about 8 inches to get that very last sunflower seed.........

I shoulda cracked that glass door enough to get the camera out!

If you guys are where I think you are, your bait site is only about 8-10 miles - an evening's stroll for a bear. Those could even have been the same bears as on my deck, and in my yard, heading out to make the most of moose calving.

I expect those cubs will make their way back down to the river when the fish start showing in a few weeks, and likely make a nuisance of themselves.

Too bad about Mom - bad decision, on her part, but what's a guy to do?

You see Ward's letter in the paper today? He was a jerk long before he got fired from State Parks.
Bearhuntr, Just read the story tonight. Sounds exciting, wish i was there. I was a little confused about the small bait comment. When the cubs came in the first time they where shoving food down so fast one of them choked it up. Mabey thats what he meant, we dont want to gag a bear. Mark, we really need to go to Homer this week. I was drawn for a free halibut trip on friday the 31st but gave it away so we could go bear hunting sometime during the week.
Wow, great story!
Originally Posted by gregp108
Bearhuntr, Just read the story tonight. Sounds exciting, wish i was there.


I thought YOU WERE my huckleberry that night...grins

bhtr
I think you guys just made up the whole thing - dirty undies and all! laugh
It's all true bender. I wish I had my video camera with me. We had originally wanted to film a bow scene but that never worked out. I left the camera at home that day because I was going to shoot. The part I would have liked others to see was just how fast a fat momma brown bear can move, an silently I might add. She went from 15 feet away from the stand to 14 feet up the tree in a little over one second. If you count one onethousand one, Thats when she would be in the tree. Amazing huh? Huntr was sitting down and had time to stand up quickly and that was it. she was at the stand before his barrel was pointed down. It makes a guy wonder how he would ever stand a chance if man and bear where on the ground at the same time with the bear getting first sight.
I read the letter in todays paper written by Walt Ward. I hope to bait, study and choose just the right bear to harvest. No cubs, no sows, You know all the things that a bait station allows a true hunter to accomplish. Then when I shoot it I am going to name it my Walter bear.
Hunters can study and choose the correct bear to harvest kinda of like shoppers can choose to shop or not shop at the store of there choice. Thats what I'm going to do.
I'm with Mike. You guys are making it up. Everyone knows adult brown bears can't climb trees.

On the other hand, I've never seen anything about their jumping ability. smile

I have seen a couple examples of quick, however. One was a BIG bear we were watching flip rocks, one pawed, up on a hillside, several decades ago near Fox Creek on the Resurrection Trail. Suddenly her head popped up, and in nothing flat she dove into a patch of hemlocks some distance off, only to reappear with a set of cubs.

Later that afternoon we went up there - we estimated she'd covered over 100 yards in less than 4 seconds. Some of those rocks she was casually flipping for voles or pikas (we think) weighed a good 300 pounds. It took 3 of us to lift them, and not easily.
I'm with Mike. You guys are making it up. Everyone knows adult brown bears can't climb trees.

I guess they can jump pretty good, though. smile

I have seen a couple examples of quick. One was a BIG bear we were watching flip rocks, one pawed, up on a hillside, several decades ago near Fox Creek on the Resurrection Trail. Suddenly her head popped up, and in nothing flat she dove into a patch of hemlocks some distance off, only to reappear with a set of cubs.

Later that afternoon we went up there - we estimated she'd covered over 100 yards in less than 4 seconds. Some of those rocks she was casually flipping for voles or pikas (we think) weighed a good 300 pounds. It took 3 of us to lift them, and not easily.

I wonder just how big a pile in the shorts Walt thinks it takes to make it "sporting".

(Answer: he is an "environmentalist", has probably never shot a bear, has certainly never tried hunting them in thick coniferous forest, nor has he, like me, ever run a bait station. I, at least, know how much work it must be, having slopped a few hogs, and regularly hunting moose back in.

You master-baiter guys just have at it- I don't want a bear that bad - I generally take mine incidentally to floating a river, or up caribou hunting in the alpine country. At least I can see what's coming at me a little quicker! smile smile
I'm with you las, I laugh at people that say baiting is too easy.

I'm inclined to think it's too much work. Spot and stalk works for me, but I'm not crazy about bear meat so rarely hunt them.
Damn dude thats a heck of an experience!

And exactly why I dont bait out of a ground blind! I have heard too many stories like that one over the years to trust being on the ground in a mess like that.

Had a buddy that always hunted blacks over bait out of a ground blind , right up until a boar griz courting a sow showed up in the bait and he was caught right in the middle wasn't pretty and although he didn't end up pullin the trigger I am pretty sure he buried his fruit of the Loooms.

Be thankful you guys are all right, chit do happen from time to time when you least expect it and it can go either way.

The old saying of " I dont think we'd be as high on the food chain as we are without guns" sure applies to your experience!
bearhuntr,

That's an incredible story. Sounds like you really showed restraint... I imagine that the first time she charged I'd have given her a lead tranquilizer rather than a rap on the head with a gun barrel.

This has seriously modified my opinion of bait hunting!

$bob$
Originally Posted by las
I guess they can jump pretty good, though. smile


Las,

"Only brown bears can jump!" Also, "brown bears got game!"
grin

bhtr
Originally Posted by gregp108
I read the letter in todays paper written by Walt Ward........ Then when I shoot it I am going to name it my Walter bear.


There you go again making sense...and in a calm,intelligent manner, void of any emotion. I hate it when you do that...grins

As to your "dedication" of bear...TO FUNNY! I bout' spilled my Avion and choked up my tofu...

bhtr
"I bout' spilled my Avion and choked up my tofu..."

Dude...that's "Evian" grin...(spell it backwards, and you'll see why I know you don't really drink it smile.)

And I wanna see you eat some tofu sick...

glad you're still in the land of the living! ahigh adventure story like that could finance alot more ammo and abigger sturdier treestand. us outsiders just love them stories!!!
Dennis,

I don't get it...? Must be too naive or thick-skinned or? wink

Guilty as charged. blushgrin My dear wifey of 30some years would suggest that I had a senior moment. I would add "I'm not as old as you are" but would rather stare down another grizz then take the sound, mental whippin' that would follow. Librarians are NOT "unarmed" little old ladies...if you know what I mean. shocked wink

As to tofu...actually tried it once. It was more painful than a severed finger (I've experienced both now) and, since I was a guest and being polite...I ate it. sick I remember feeling alot like Morgan Freeman's character in the movie "Power of One," when he was forced to eat something he didn't want to (I hastily add I've no experience here!)

best,
bhtr grin
grin

I'm a big fan of tofu myself...right up there with soymilk sick and ricecakes frown.

Later...have to go to "work" smile.

DN
bearhuntr,
I just barely got around to reading your account with the bears. Man, that would likely be just a little too much excitement for me. I once had to push a black bear out of my tree with the barrel of my rifle. That was enough for, a brown would rattle me to the core. All I can say is, "You da' MAN!" I'm still in a state of WOW over your story.
Troy,

I assure you that I'm the "lucky" man...that's all. If she had made the slightest change in her M.O. I'd been rollin' on the ground in a heap o' trouble. In retrospect, she had to keep a hold of the tree with her paws and couldn't use them to pull with. If she had pulled on the stand...?

I'm not desirous of having second helpings anytime soon; in truth at all! I did learn a couple new things (in retrospect) and will commit them to memory. Almost 50 years in Alaska and being around hundreds of bears (both seen and more unseen)won't ready one for an encounter of this kind.

In a way (since I escaped totally unscathed) this "post episode" has a kind of manly, outdoor romantic thing going. I've endured my 5 minutes of fame already. I will do everything in my power to avoid a sequel. I will however, "jump back on the horse," so to speak. That, you can bank on.......grins.

best,
Mark

PS. Hope you are able to keep up with lettin' the kid out hunt ya! I really enjoy those pics you post (hint) wink
Woah! That'll stick in your head a while.

Bump for a heck of a story (missed it the first time around).

Thanks for the link, bearhuntr. Stay safe.

Ella
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