What are people using for slings these days, I'm in need of another rifle sling to use with QD flush-cups, I own slings from Vero Vellini and Montana Sling, looking for something simple but useful, thanks!
Montana slings suck and the more you use it in the elements the more the knot slips and the rifle ends up around your azz then ankles especially when trying to drag a deer.
Butler creek Mountain for the win…no freaking comparison!
I also use a Frankenstud Sling Keeper on my packs to keep my rifle from slipping off my shoulder, no matter what sling I'm using.
Pathfinder--Am familiar with the Grovetech (and other similar slings) but prefer the narrower Butler Creek. That said, Eileen prefers the Grovtech-type slings because they don't put as much pressure on her thinner shoulders. (But she also uses the Frankenstud.)
Also have a few sling purchased in Europe when hunting over there that work similarly to the Butler Creek, and others which provide more "friction." Europe was ahead of the U.S. in many ways, perhaps because the hunting in many countries over there is in steep country. The slings I have were made in Norway (a synthetic model) and Spain, a leather sling with a nubbly rubber area in the section that goes over your shoulder.
I also use a Frankenstud Sling Keeper on my packs to keep my rifle from slipping off my shoulder, no matter what sling I'm using.
Pathfinder--Am familiar with the Grovetech (and other similar slings) but prefer the narrower Butler Creek. That said, Eileen prefers the Grovtech-type slings because they don't put as much pressure on her thinner shoulders. (But she also uses the Frankenstud.)
Also have a few sling purchased in Europe when hunting over there that work similarly to the Butler Creek, and others which provide more "friction." Europe was ahead of the U.S. in many ways, perhaps because the hunting in many countries over there is in steep country. The slings I have were made in Norway (a synthetic model) and Spain, a leather sling with a nubbly rubber area in the section that goes over your shoulder.
The Grovtec mountain sling is the exact same dimensions as the Uncle Mikes. I have both. But the Grovtec obviously has their sling swivels which are a better quality swivel.
Montana's slip knot is the best in the business for adjusting a sling. A runner up is the Blue Force hunting sling. However, I also like slings that stay on your shoulder. The Butler Creek Alaska Magnum, Quake Claw slimline and the Grovtec Mountaineer sling win here.
I have not bought a decent sling in a while. Lately, I have been buying fairly cheap ones off Amazon for non-hunting rifles and platooning my good leather ones.
I went through a period about a decade ago, where I had excellent luck finding leather slings on Amazon and Ebay. For hunting in decent weather, I like a sling that's:
Leather Lined Cobra design Ready for 1 inch QDs
I don't shoot offhand with a sling. It's just a carry strap to me, but it is a necessary part of the kit. I want both hands free when I'm walking in and out in the dark.
I think I ended up with 3 or 4 new ones. I gave them a good coat of Neat's Foot Oil and let them cure for 6 months or so. These are what I use during deer season when the weather is good. I also have a couple of nice camo synthetics, I think they're EZ Shoot. They have a rubbery neoprene pad that stretches. One stays on my Mossberg 500 turkey gun, and the other gets moved around to whatever I designate as my "Rain Gun" for deer season.
Once I determine what my 4 pieces are going to be for deer season, I do whatever swapping I need to do to give me the appropriate sling.
I almost bought on of these back when they were being sold here, but did not,
Frankenstud Sling Keeper
Anyone know how to purchase one of them now??? Thanks Tim
I use a variety of slings depending on how long rifle will be on my shoulder and if doing more or less walking. Can't say any particular one is better, but if doing a lot of humping I like 1" and quick adjust style if I will be putting on and taking off shoulder regularly.
you can make your own. With my wife's assistance, made mine from black 1" wide webbing. Super tough, about as lightweight as you could get, and in-expensive. Use it on my 10# plus .375.
Montana's are ok but I cut the supplied ''knot'' off.. Adjusted the sling to a length I liked and used a Chicago screw to secure the end of the sling to the running length. So yeah, its a semi permanent length but you lose some unnecessary weight and ugliness... Sorry Shrap.
I mostly hunt WV mountains. The "give" that Vero Vellini rifle slings provide while climbing the hills is perfect. The 4 that I own were bought many years ago when they weren't $50+ dollars each (I move these rifle to rifle). There are a few copycat type slings (Butler Creek) that are decent for $.
use both Montana slings and Butler Creek Mountain Slings, depending on the rifle and intended use.
Mostly this, but I tend to use the 1" Montana sling more. There really isn't that much difference in weight.
When Gander MT was closing, I picked up a couple of slings with their logo on them. They are an almost direct copy of the Butler Creek Mountain sling, but with slightly heavier nylon webbing and they are brown. Got them dirt cheap and they get used a lot too. I tend to just keep the slings on the rifles I use most and when I pick up a rifle just go with whichever sling is on it, so they all get used.
Curious as to what you men recommend, I went to Butler Cr webpage...a "Mountain Sling", by that name, is not in their product line.
Naturally I would go to the Montana Sling next, but Gov Tester (D) Mont. yesterday came out and said he was against open borders, (rumor has it there's an election this fall) so I am nervous about false advertising when it comes to all things Montana. Snork.
As mentioned, I have a Montana sling and the quality is excellent, I'll probably like it more as it ages a bit, also like the Vero Vellinis that I have. The issue is some stocks are traditional QR, some have pic rails on the front with flush-cup QD the new McM mountaineer stock that is due any day is flush-cup only (not my preference but that's the only way it comes) so only looking at alternatives that at FC compatible. VV is my default, just considering other options.
I use either one of the above mentioned latigo slings or a mountain sling depending on the hunt. I recall my mountain sling was made by Uncle Mike's though.
I tried a Butler Creek Featherlight Minimalist this past season. Undecided about it. It's a departure from my go-to Hunter Whelen sling Hunter Whelen sling . The Whelen is the same style Jack O'Connor wrote about. Not as much hardware as a military sling. I love it but, have never fired on big game slung up from the sitting position which JOC wrote about. I practice from this position just because. I see why JOC was so keen on it - it's super stable for me and doesn't require a rest. I'd think it would be a good choice in the West. With so many pre-64, JOC-reading, Western guys around here, I'd think this classic choice would be more popular?
I like the Whelen sling and 1907 sling, and have used them to good effect. For truly lightweight applications I had slings with sewn loops built by a place online, then I affix them to the rifle swivel studs with 550 cord. Eliminates a little weight and the noise of swivels and the clunking of a sling adjuster doohickey. Took a little experimentation to get the length right for a sling that was correct for packing but also worked to use as a hasty sling for shooting. This measurement could be different depending on the stock (length between studs), so using a little longer 550 cord attachments works to adjust the overall length.
I like the Montana sling, so far the knots aren't slipping on them. I think it helps to keep the leather treated so it doesn't get dry. I use them like Oregonmuley's pic, loop at buttstock end. Adjusted right, I put my arm through the loop and put tension tween the rifle butt and my elbow. Not a true shooting sling, but it steadies me more than a hasty sling and doesn't affect POI as there is no tension on the forearm.
you can make your own. With my wife's assistance, made mine from black 1" wide webbing. Super tough, about as lightweight as you could get, and in-expensive. Use it on my 10# plus .375.
I also make my rifle slings outof 1in nylon. I try to duplicate the "C" sling O'Connor mentioned so I can get some support in sitting and prone. I use shoe goo to add a friction surface to them as recommendedby Aagaard. Finally, I use a hair band as a "keeper" of sorts.
On swhotguns and other firearms I dont try to use a sling on I use mountain slings or makea nylon strap.
I've been using the strap from a musette bag for years. It is wide, so it spreads the load and doesn't slip off my shoulder. It is light weight and easy to adjust. Cheap too! I remove the snaps on the ends of the strap and put an Uncle Mikes quick release swivel on. I just ordered 5 more so I don't have to swap it from rifle to rifle.
Montana slings suck and the more you use it in the elements the more the knot slips and the rifle ends up around your azz.
It would be [bleep] mind blowing how many miles I’ve carried rifles, muzzle loader and shotguns chasing deer, hog, turkey, squirrel, duck etc.
Never ever not nary a hiccup from a Montana Sling.
Great picture, Harry! Beautiful drake. I love everything about woodies and would rather eat wood duck than most anything.
I never thought of using a red dot like that for wing shooting. Might have to try it. How do you like it?
Andy
I’ve only taken it a few times but I like it. Definitely takes some getting used to. That morning we were hunting a spot where a small creek feeds into a beaver pond. It’s pretty open and we can see the ducks coming and have plenty of time to get ready. If it were wood ducks in timber I’d probably never stand a chance! I’d take it on a dove hunt with no problem… I think.. 😁
Montana slings suck and the more you use it in the elements the more the knot slips and the rifle ends up around your azz.
It would be [bleep] mind blowing how many miles I’ve carried rifles, muzzle loader and shotguns chasing deer, hog, turkey, squirrel, duck etc.
Never ever not nary a hiccup from a Montana Sling.
Great picture, Harry! Beautiful drake. I love everything about woodies and would rather eat wood duck than most anything.
I never thought of using a red dot like that for wing shooting. Might have to try it. How do you like it?
Andy
I’ve only taken it a few times but I like it. Definitely takes some getting used to. That morning we were hunting a spot where a small creek feeds into a beaver pond. It’s pretty open and we can see the ducks coming and have plenty of time to get ready. If it were wood ducks in timber I’d probably never stand a chance! I’d take it on a dove hunt with no problem… I think.. 😁
My favorite is when hunters show up with the neoprene bouncy slings or shoulder pad leather slings complete with full color deer motif, either of which are extended to maximum length so they get tangled in all the extra backpacks and bino brassieres and shooting tripods and other schit hunters feel the need to pack with them every time they step out of the pickup. Also gotta have cartridge loops for extra 300 Weatherby ammo. For all I know they have makeup kits on there too, to touch up their magnum eyebrows when it comes time for post-gut shot picture time.
Montana slings suck and the more you use it in the elements the more the knot slips and the rifle ends up around your azz then ankles especially when trying to drag a deer.
Butler creek Mountain for the win…no freaking comparison!
I have a few of the Montana's. One got wet quite a few times, and the knot started slipping. I just put a few wraps of electrical tape above the knot. That way it holds where I like it, and still retracts against the stock. Definitely got my money's worth. No complaints.
Montana slings suck and the more you use it in the elements the more the knot slips and the rifle ends up around your azz.
It would be [bleep] mind blowing how many miles I’ve carried rifles, muzzle loader and shotguns chasing deer, hog, turkey, squirrel, duck etc.
Never ever not nary a hiccup from a Montana Sling.
Great picture, Harry! Beautiful drake. I love everything about woodies and would rather eat wood duck than most anything.
I never thought of using a red dot like that for wing shooting. Might have to try it. How do you like it?
Andy
I’ve only taken it a few times but I like it. Definitely takes some getting used to. That morning we were hunting a spot where a small creek feeds into a beaver pond. It’s pretty open and we can see the ducks coming and have plenty of time to get ready. If it were wood ducks in timber I’d probably never stand a chance! I’d take it on a dove hunt with no problem… I think.. 😁
Cool. We're typically in marshy river set-backs with plenty of oaks - woodie heaven and tons of time as they're coming into the dekes. But, if it's slow, we'll float creeks in the canoe which can be some quick and dirty shooting. Maybe not as good. Maybe I'll just lug two guns. In any case, thanks for posting the pic!
My favorite is when hunters show up with the neoprene bouncy slings or shoulder pad leather slings complete with full color deer motif, either of which are extended to maximum length so they get tangled in all the extra backpacks and bino brassieres and shooting tripods and other schit hunters feel the need to pack with them every time they step out of the pickup. Also gotta have cartridge loops for extra 300 Weatherby ammo. For all I know they have makeup kits on there too, to touch up their magnum eyebrows when it comes time for post-gut shot picture time.
Although I am a big fan of the Ching Sling, I think there is something better: a Vickers style adjustable sling. They are designed to wear around a shoulder and neck that allows the rifle to be slung hands free on your front for quick easy access, or the side or back. It can also easily be worn when carrying a ruck or pack. It is "tactical" in the sense it is more traditionally used for AR's but is a great innovation nonetheless. There is a version that also incorporates a loop for shooting but still can be tightened to firm up a braced shooting position.
I mainly use a couple of hand-crafted leather slings made by Els & Co. in Stellenbosch, ZA. It's a wine-making region in South Africa that's a nice place to visit if you're ever in that area. They don't work any better than the cheaper canvas one I bought from NECG years ago but they do look nice.
You could not run fast enough to give me a leather sling. Pass the Butler Creek Mountain sling for the win.
Been using them for years myself, perfect size and weight, more folks should try them out. I rake mine off alot while hunting, put it back on when walking out of area, etc. Its super easy to mess with, ha.
Put me down for the various claw model slings as well. I use as a carry tool not a shorting tool. They work quite well at avoiding slipping off the shoulder. They carry comfortably, are maintenance free and economical.
Been running these on my deer hunting rifles. On and off all day they have a quick pull to loosen and easy pull and hold tight for rapid setting from relaxed hanging to arm wrapped shooting on moving deer.
I guess I am an outlier here in that I have no interest, or more precisely very limited interest, in using a sling to carry a rifle when hunting. I used to carry a 1" leather sling with QD attachments rolled up in a coat pocket with the idea that I'd clip it on and sling my rifle when I had to drag out a deer. I eventually came to the conclusion that I only needed one hand to drag a deer and having the rifle slung over my shoulder or across my back was a bigger PITA than anything. Carrying it in the hand that wasn't dragging the deer provided a sort of balance, as well.
In the northeastern woods where I've done most of my deer hunting on the ground, opportunities often come suddenly and you don't have a lot of time, nor do you want to move around a lot, just raise your rifle with as little commotion as possible and shoot. In a treestand/climber, the last thing I want when I'm 15 to 30 feet up in the air with limited room to maneuver is something hanging off my rifle. I shot one deer walking in to my stand this year and having to unsling my rifle before doing so may have blown that opportunity.
A couple of my rifles are 700's with bolts that don't lock down on safe and the fact that I don't have my rifle slung out of sight, behind my back may be one of the reasons it really doesn't bother me.
I have used a sling on shotguns more than rifles. I have a leather sling with slipknot loops at each end, one sized for the barrel, one to fit around the stock. I'd carry it in a pocket back when we spent most of the winter running fox and coyotes so I could sling my shotgun when I needed both hands free to handle hounds. I also used to use it when manhandling bags of decoys back into the swamps during early duck season.
I've often hunted with a backpack of some sort, but I like to have my rifle in my hands.
have a variety of slings. Put a vino villeri on one of my long guns. Like it a lot, but it don't serve any better purpose than many other slings out there.
I mainly use a couple of hand-crafted leather slings made by Els & Co. in Stellenbosch, ZA. It's a wine-making region in South Africa that's a nice place to visit if you're ever in that area. They don't work any better than the cheaper canvas one I bought from NECG years ago but they do look nice.
I like the Els & Co 2" Nieu-Bethesda. Enough that I ordered one for myself.
Added. These actually look better than the Westley Richards offering.
I use the leather Montana Rifle Slings on my lever guns and wood stocked bolt action magazine rifles. My two stainless bolt guns wear the easily adjustable synthetic hunting sling from Blue Force Gear that sells many products designed by Larry Vickers. My Short barreled 12 ga. and AR's and SBR wear Vickers 2 point slings.
I remove my slings when actually hunting but like to have one for going to and from my stand, don't do much spot and stalk hunting these days and like to have a sling to put my rifle on my shoulder if just for a moment if I'm sorting gear vs putting it on the ground or against a tree. I do hunt from climbing stand so having a sling for ascending/descending is a must. Otherwise, I prefer to have a "clean" rifle, no sling to make noise or get in the way.
Call me the “odder-than-odd man out” but I started using Banded shotgun slings on my hunting rifles about 8 years ago, and really can’t seem to stand many other slings now. Yes, they’re a bit wide, and they have the 3 shotgun shell loops. Yes they are a bit heavier than other, sleeker slings. Yes they don’t look as pretty on a classic rifle. Yes, the wide strap fights my backpack strap for space when I carry one. All true! However, I saw them years ago and bought one figuring if they were made for dragging around heavy, long barreled waterfowl shotguns, they ought to work for a lighter rifle. After the first day of using it in the woods, I was hooked. Between the handle and extra long thumb loop, it allows a super comfortable carry, with lots of adjustability. They ain’t the prettiest, lightest, or cheapest…but they are the only ones I use on my big game rifles.