Just finished cooking up a big pot of venison chili and cornbread here at work for the guys. How about ya'll, you like beans in your chili or not?

Oh Dear Lord, now you've gone and done it! Started the fight of all fights- and with all these durned Texans around, too! - Sheister

Dear la4wd54
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<br>Beans in your chili is an abomnation in the eyes of mankind, NEVER! It ceases to be chili when beans are added, period. And I am not from Texas, I just know good chili when I meet it, it does need Hatch chilies to make it proper though IMHO.
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<br>This is one thats been in my family for as long as I can remember mostly made with
<br>Deer but on lucky occaisions Elk:
<br>2 to 3 lbs. ground elk or deer meat
<br>2 large sweet (Vidalia if ya got em) onions, chopped fine
<br>2 large bell peppers (red or green) chopped
<br>3 or 4 Hatch chilies (green is best) chopped
<br>2 large cans tomatoes, chopped or crushed (your choice) include the juice
<br>4 Tbsp. chili powder, may adjust to taste
<br>1 clove crushed garlic
<br>1/2 tsp salt
<br>Brown the meat and onions in canola or light olive oil in a DEEP cast iron skillet or
<br>dutch oven. Add tomatoes and spices. Simmer 3 to 4 hours, stirring occasionally
<br>and tasting for adjustment of spices.
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<br>Please note: There is NO mention of beans!

T Lee,
<br> Just for the record, I have had some very fine chilis both with and without beans.(personal taste) Your recipe looks like it would be as good as some of the better ones I've tried. Curious about Hatch chilis tho'. I'm located in extreme SW La. and haven't heard about that particular kind. Where would a fella find some of them at?

This New Mexican says that you must have beans. A good chili requires a proper propellant...

They are from New Mexico and I have bought them even here in Florida at Publix.
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You may be a New Mexican but the best chili I ate while living in Taos was sans beans of any kind. Especially the Elk chili a friends sister, a Taos Pueblo native made.

T LEE,
<br>Thank you sir, we do not have Publix stores here but I will be on the lookout for them at our local stores.

No problem, of course the bottled ones are not near as good as the fresh roastsed ones, but a darn site better than none.

My preference is without beans served over noodles or rice. It's gotta be spicy hot to be good. Beans are used when you are too old to shoot a deer or other suitable source of animal protein and it's probably further contaminated with store bought hamburger by those same old guys.
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<br>Now, I suspect that BCR has been lurking in the shadows waiting to jump all over us and tell us how it's supposed to be made according to the revised statutes of the great state. Where you hiding Boggy???

I too have been waiting for Boggy to leap out from behind the computer and chastise all for not getting the recipe right!

Well my chili recipe has spread far and wide via this forum so far no complaints.
<br>As to beans in the chili. As long as you don't cook the beans in with the chili that is fine. If you want to add beans that have been cooked separate when you go to eat your chile I don't have a problem with it I just don't care for that addition. I like fritos crumbled in or crackers sometimes or even green olives sometimes. Some like chopped egg. Some like cheese. No problem, put what you think will taste good to you in your chili when you dish it up. Just don't cook any thing but meat, spices, onion and garlic when you make your chili or you will just have a spicy vegetabl soup.
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<br>BCR

Everybody knows chili don't have beans in it. Chili has meat, tomato sauce, chili peppers, salt, and garlic. You start adding other stuff and you are making STEW. Stew starts out just like chili but you add water, beans, onions, potatoes, hominy, celery, carrots, and anything else you have laying around.
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<br>Chili meat is beef or venison. Stew meat can be anything you got. Chicken, squriel, rabbit, beef, venison, aramadillo, or any other meat too tough to eat without being boiled to death first. Stew is also red. It gets it's color from the tomatoes and chili powder. If you don't put chili powder in it you are not making stew. You are making SOUP. To make soup start out making stew but forget to put in any tomatoes and chili powder.
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<br>I don't know how you yankees got so mixed up you can't tell the difference between chili, stew, soup, and spagitti sauce. Also, fish don't have no busniess gettin any where near soup. Them boiled fish heads is for the cats.

Ok youse guys we got our own form of traditional chilie her on the puget sound and there arn't no beans in this one. Ya Ole u go tel um. first youse take down a couple uf dem slabs a salted cod off a da misses cloths line den yas puts dem in da vasser to soffen up a bit. Ya u needs to dump dat vasser and den fill er up mit new fresh vasser, diss time u needs to toss in a hand full of der lye. Nows soak dem slabs o fish over nite , It's mornin now und da coffee is boiled so u needs to go git da fish outa da vasser. U needs dat der cheese cloth to scoop up da fish as it be turned to slime. Drain out da vasser and boil in fresh vasser, cook up some young tatoes and peas by boiling in fresh vasser. Make a white sause out da butter and milk put da fish in and pore over da spuds an peas. YA Ole dat is PugetSound Chili.
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<br>Bullvinkle

Dad Gum Winkey, don't do that no more, it took me twenty-four hours to quit barfing just thinking about your Puget Sound chili.
<br>BCR

Boggy,
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<br> At least it didn't have any beans in it! - Sheister

Bullvinkle,
<br>Lutefisk is the nastiest, foulest compound ever fabricated with intent to cross human lips.
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<br>I believe it was a viking practical joke that went sideways somewhere along the line.
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<br>I'm as norsk in heritage as can be, however...imho
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<br>REAL MEN DON'T EAT LUTEFISK!!
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<br>Lefse, ahhh now that's another story....

Boollvnkl, yuoo ere-a oone-a seeck indeefidooel, nu duoobt ebuoot it lefft in my meend. Bork bork bork!
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<br> ROTFLMAO!

ok bullwinkl
<br>Took me the better half of the day to read your chili recipe. Why didn't you say you were making cat food?

Oh come on Carbonman just because you may have had a bad experience with Lutefisk don't mean it's all bad...does it? To be a real man here on the bay you have to at least try and eat a little with out barfing.
<br>Lefse is to a Norsky what french fries are to the rest of the known world So if any of you intrepid souls wanna come on up we'll stir ya up a batch of Puget Sound Chilie with out beans, never had em never will. Just good eats....yeah right.
<br>Say guys what say we get MuleSkinner to try some Lutefisk it will seperate the men from...their stomach linings.
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<br>Bullwnkl.

I quote "... just because you may have had a bad experience with Lutefisk don't mean it's all bad ..."
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<br>Sheesh, Winky, that is like saying just because you have had a bad experience with the Black Plague it doesn't mean that plague doesn't have redeaming features.
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<br>No wonder the northwest is burning. They found out what you are eating and are trying to burn you out.
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<br>BCR

I ate the requisite 2 bites of lutefisk as a kid. I'm with Boggy on this one. Think 'they' are burning you out over the menu.
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<br>Furthermore, I believe Lutefisk is the source of bulemia.
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Gee you guys must have some pull, every responce i posted last night is gone, I didn't think the dislike for PugetSound chili could be that strong.
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<br>Bullwnkl.