At last my final thread on calibers. Out of all the .270s or 7mms, I'de like to know your opinion on it. Since there are so many (.270 WSM, .270 Weatherby, .270 Win, and more. And 7mm UM, SAUM, Rem. Mag, WSM, and more) I don't feel like I can accurately research any of them, considering people can be one sided and obviously some BCs are stretched. I don't care about brass cost as much as I care about barrel life, brass life, accuracy, and BCs. Just give me your personal experiences, that speaks in higher volumes than reading a chart.

For [bleep] sake, go here and knock yourself out.....

www.jbmballistics.com/

yeah, for the .277.



btw, the 270 is a 7mm.

That depends on who's experience it is, and the chart. In general, I'd disagree.



Just figure out what bullet you want to run how fast, then pick the case that'll do it without drama.

My first thought is you're splitting hairs. .277 vs. .284 isn't a lot of difference. In my experience they're both good performers in good rigs, and both can be equally accurate. I have a '51 Remington 721 in .270 win and it's quite accurate and a has killed a great deal of game. It's my crawl through brush, mountain gun. If I was wanting more than my .270 I'd probably go to an '06 just because there isn't that much difference to step it up to a 280Rem for example. A lot of my answer would also depend on what you're planning on shooting with it. Are you hoping to shoot long range (600+ yards) at game, for example? If you're planning on shooting matches, for example, I'd go 7mm as there's more match bullet choices out there in 7mm.

There's a pile variables that can go into choosing an gun and caliber. Just read your other recent threads, and based on you wanting to get a Gunwerks LR-1000, I'd go with a factory caliber, and probably pick the 6.5-284 Norma off the list they have for that rifle. My last two bits, because we are obviously different shoppers, are if I had that kind of cash to spend on a new rig, I know I could get two great rifle set-ups in two different calibers of my choice. I'm fairly confident you can get the same performance for half the cost, but to each his own. Let us know what you decide. BTW, I also think the 280AI has a lot going for it and really think a 7-08 is underrated for all but long shots.

.29s soundly trump either the .27s or .28s without all the recoil of the .30s.....

.270 SAUM.

6.8/284......

7mm/284. No necking down and no fireforming. Almost as good as the B29.

Either you follow the crowd and get a 270 like everybody else & their brother, or you step out of the box, be your own man and choose a good 7mm.

7mm is a better bullet.

.277/08 improved is what your wanting.

6.8/.348 for a real wildcat man.....

A 7WSM and a good backpack are hard to beat

[bleep] sacrilege man.... is anyone on earth "Almost as good" as Chuck Norris?

You guys are so easy....split the diff and go 270 1/2

Your research is an exorcise in futility. Just go with a 7-08 and shoot the crap out of it.

Shrapnel...

HA! damnit Tanner, I just about lost my hot chocolate!!

Best response so far....screw this thread.The OP should buy them all and figure it out for himself

Bag- I know you are trying to research and find out all the info you can but imo your splitting hairs now. Barrel life isn't going to be that big of a factor and if it is a rebarrel is cheap enough.
If you are dead set on a gunwerks rifle then I would go 7lrm.

Some people never learn...........

It's all fun and games till you have to pay for the brass. Costs as much as an airplane... And they stopped producing it in WWII. Good ole super fortress, never lost a deer with that...

Hold on a minute here BAB. You're wanting to drop 5k on a Gunwerks rifle... but you're concerned about the cost of brass? I'm not getting it.

I would also suggest a Montucky 7mm Whizzum. Should be the cats meow on SE Alaskan Sitkas.....

Please, F-35 is the only way to go.

B-29 has better barrel life and the brass is 10 cents cheaper per bag.

But you just can't beat the F-35 BC

.... and Tanner knows his way around cheap bags....

BagABuck,

I don't know your depth of experience or exactly what you want to use the rifle for... Hunting, it sounds like. What will you hunt and how far do you expect to shoot?

I honestly feel that a "well thought out" .260 or 7-08 would be a really great place to start - then put the most "serious glass" you can afford on top and shoot it till it pukes!

All of the rounds you've inquired about will toss a bullet to 1K.

With the lighter rounds, you'll shoot better, more often and will hit better. You'll also have more fun! IMO

Brass will be cheap and readily available. Less powder means more shooting = win, win.

You can dial and dope them both. I'd be more worried about being able to read the wind. The rest is a skullphuck.....

get one of each and shoot them,figure out what you like. the ones you don't like i'll buy at half price. thats the only way you'll be sure .

Al, have a Snickers, you're not yourself when you are hungry. Steve

Wasnt your beard a bit longer last time ?

Easy to understand T....

Daddy is buying the gun and he's gonna have to pony up for the brass and bullets. Lol.......

I'm not so sure this is really a kid. I think it's a troll?

Ya think....

Buy a 7mm Rem. Mag. set up for long range, better selection of bullets over .277(not that it [bleep]' matters, plenty of good .270 bullets), ammo, dies, and brass is available everywhere, it'll shoot farther than you can hit anything accurately. Although, so could the .270 Win., same deal as the 7 mag., if neither of those have a flat enough trajectory for you, get a custom made 40" barreled rifle chambered for a .277/50 BMG wildcat, if that isn't enough, buy a high powered laser, this thread is [bleep]' gay.

Words of a smart man.

I'm thinking it's really that Joe whatever his name is from MN exhausting revenge!

Well the 270 is big enough to harvest any game I might be persueing, but, since I'm a handloader the 280 is what I prefer since it give a much larger selection of bullet weight choices.

+1

There are no animals where one is good and the other inadequate.

There are conditions where one is good and the other less than adequate....

Add a 10 mph wind and the wheat and chaff separate real quickly.

As well angle, back when I used to shoot chucks at long range a lot we dealt with a lot of angles and a lot of wind. I did fine as long as I was intimate with my rifle. Certain rounds gave me some advantage for sure.

Dober

LOL, so true.

When I started out handloading and hunting we could get all of the 30-06 GI ammo free from our club and the DCM as well.

It made no sense to get some other cartridge.

One guy in our group had a 270 that his dad bought for him but the rest of us shot military rounds.

That was a long time ago and now in the local store I see 270 Win. ammo along with 308, 7mm RM, 30-30, 243 and of course the 06.

They don't have the odd stuff like the 7-57 that some like on line.

The reason I have a 270 Win. is that it has nice wood.

The only reason I have a 7-57 is that I wanted a 21H.

The reason I have a 7mm mag is that it always had high BC bullets.

I never wanted a 270. Good round they say but I never wanted one.

The 270 with a 110g tipped tripple shock loaded with the close to max load of R#19, win 760,or H4350 will really impress you at 300 yards in how it bucks the wind...how if flattens deer is really impressive. Group size at 300 yards is really something to see, and the lack of bullet drop at 300 yds, when sighted in at 200 yards leads you think you are shooting a 220 Swift.

But bullet selection really sucks.