Anybody built on one? What are your thoughts?

Top shelf

Just getting ready to send it off, but it is a very well made, and very smooth, and I really like the one pc bolt...

+1

I don't think GAP would be using them for their "inhouse" actions if they were not up to this standard.....

Precision personified,IMO.

They build our receivers as well. Top of the line actions, smooth as silk, and they are great people to work with. The above pics are how they show up...polished and pretty!

I have a couple & they are very nice!!

Glenn & Jeff in the shop are great guys and will help with any questions you may have.

They work for me...

AKA, GA Precision Templar......I like them very much!



This one is a .260.

Hell of a nice pic!

Would love one of these for a 264WM or a 6XC.....NICE actions!

Do they come with a regular bolt handle?

Art work that shoots.

dave

Bob are you talking about the knob, as they have a few different syles and are threaded on..mine is the Tear drop and is one of the smaller ones!

One of these days I want to do a tacticool/LR target rifle on a Defiance... 6.5x284, 6.5x47 Lapua, 7 WSM/SAUM/Dakota, something along those lines. They have so many different options, I'm having a paralysis through analysis situation.

Most of the custom clone actions come with very ugly bolt handles - to my eye. About the only one I like is the Holland Tactical handle...but it does appear a bit long. Wish there was a bit more choice when it came to a more traditional looking handle.

FVA/Scenar - R&D Precision bottom metal? If so, any issues with feeding? Any additional action work needed for fit? BTW, very nice rig's/pic's...

Ackleyfan, yeah I was looking for something a bit more traditional.I do like the looks of these actions though. They really are nice! I bet the rifles shoot.

So the knobs are all screw on?

I have a Bartlein 6mm 9 twist #4 barrel here and trying to decide how to roll...

Yes in my case. Feeds beautifully. No additional action work. Defiance's order form has a place for specs of the bottom metal,magazine,trigger, etc. you plan on using. If anything needs attention they will let you know. They have it down.

The bold handles are part of the bolt body and the knobs are screw on.
If you knock the bolt handle off a Defiance action.
You have a problem.
For a chuck gun? Long or shot action?
Defiance Rebel single shot RBLP
20 MOA rail
Long Barrel tenon
700 tang.
Get the small bolt handle tear drop.
Open top mag cut out.

Art work that shoots.

dave

Give them a jingle. They are friendly, have many options, and are prone to please,IME.

Yes they are screw on knobs, they have launched a new web page and do not have all the knob choices up yet,

I don't like big shifter knobs either, but the tear drop is not to big, It fits the action well!

Ackley/ FVA: Thanks guys!

I like an action that is solid across the top, this adds a bunch of stiffness to the action, defiance offers this but most guys cover over it with a picitinny rail. why not just buy an action where that is machined into the action, better yet why not also machine the recoil lug in, surgeon and bat machine both do this, but its probably going to add at least $250 to do it.

+1. Good thing about Defiance is you can use there knobs and or Kampfeld knobs which screw on and fit very well. Lots of knobs to choose from. One of Kampfelds...

An action with a rail adds additional weight that someone with a sporter rifle doesn't want or need, a recoil lug that is machined into the action is nice for a switch barrel rig but again it is not needed and adds to the cost considerably, both are nice features for a heavier weight rifle, and the action will be stiffer, but if you think your going to gain more accuracy with these two built in features, I think you will be dissapointed, just look at how well a Defiance,Borden or Bat will shoot without these features!

slg888,

I have seen your "tiger-striped" rifle several times on here, but I'll tell you what - its one of the nicest that I have seen anywhere!!!

I like those flutes!

My other .260 built on the Defiance/Templar "Hunter Action". This one is quickly becoming my favorite big game hunting rifle...

When I got my first rifle with a larger bolt knob, I too thought I wouldn't like it....I was wrong. I won't have a rifle now without one. For me it's about utility, not looks.

I don't think it adds that much weight, my gun with a #5 barrel and integral rail and lug still came out at 8#'s, which is heavy from some people, but if I dropped down to a #3 barrel or less again the weight isn't bad. again it depends on what you want the rifle to do. but we are talking custom actions here and if MOA is good enough maybe a factory remington 700 is too.

a theory here, what if a solid action top ie port style action, controls barrel vibrations better and possibly means the gun isn't as finaky to shoot different loads. look at the legendary accurate factory rifles, tikka and remington 788's both port style action, just a thought and a theory, no evidence to back it up. it sure is nice though to be able to pop a load development high power scope, defiance does offer a port style action I would love to check one out.

If it controls the different vibrations in the action it could make a barreled action less finicky, and is one reason I believe customs are more consistant and shoot different loads to the same point of aim,and seem to shoot almost any load easily, but the top action builders run very tight tolerences, and with a top shelf barrel will shoot tiny clusters, so I think it would be tough to see the accuracy difference,but you bring up a good point!

I have my order in for a Defiance action and this thread isn't making the wait any easier.

Great info and guns guys.


ddj

What are you building?

I ordered a Defiance SA on a 308 Bolt face. I am going to use a McMillan Huntes Edge with a Benchmark Barrel Hill Country Taper at 24" to .650 at the crown. The cartridge is still to be decided.


ddj

You have picked some great parts no matter what cartridge you decide on...hang in there!

Thanks Ackleyfan!


ddj

similar to my build, Defiance 'sheep' action, Edge stock, Pacnor 23" ultralight brl, 260 Rem. Hope to have it done and in my hands by May

If I like it as much as I think I will/should, it likely won't be my last Defiance action custom!

thanks for the info guys

Anyone know what the wait time is for a defiance action

I think wait times are running about 60 days - not bad at all for a custom action built the way you want it!!

..... dont forget the long tennon
just like the br guns.....
Couple of extra threads never hurt a thing for controllong barrel finickyness

dave


dave

ordered one in December.
Showed up today.

dave

Ok, maybe less than 60 days - LOL!!!!

ordered one in early November, but I'm up here in Canada. Gunsmith said 90 days usually

As an aside I'd echo what Pat/Scenarshooter said above regarding the bolt handle. I'm no fan of the big shifter knobs but,IMO, the Defiance handle with the tear drop knob in particular doesn't go over board and will make you realize a bit more handle is indeed a good thing.

Curious why you chose the DBM for that rifle? Do you find an advantage over a blind mag set up? I'm thinking I'd like a rifle just like that...mule deer too!

I'd say the DBM was used to ensure reliable feeding of cartridges.

On the WSM's - this type of set-up is without a doubt needed for the rifle to feed properly!!

Spot on...

Patrick,

Do you still have the 3hunnert WSM?

Gave it to a very good friend of mine....

Thanks for the info! I'll have something similar to that...someday.

FVA - Thanks for the info, been admiring the RAD TAC LATCH BM for a future build.

I don't see any pricing or ordering information on the site. Do you have to call to order? What is the price for a long action .473? Just curious. I don't want to bother them with a call. Flinch

They work with their email very promptly if you don't want to call.

That might be the smallest deer I've ever seen you post, Pat. You live a blessed life out there in MT!

Defiance Machine Thinhorn action
Pacnor 23" 8 twist #1 contour in 260 Remington
McMillan's Hunters Edge stock
Rifle Basix trigger @ 2.25#
Leupold Vx3 3.5-10x40 B&C w/ m1 dial in Talley LW's

7.25 lbs scoped







Been mainly shooting Nosler 140gr Accubonds with RL17 @ 2730 fps. Here's an average group, 1.3" @ 210y



Had it out to 516 yards so far, I'll take more pics and update as I get to shoot it more.

How do you like B&C ret with the M1?
Love your new 260!

works well. B&C is great for quick shooting 300-450y, M1 dial good for farting around at the range

If'n i was buying a custom action, it'd be a Defiance

Turned out nice...great blueprint!

I like that! What's a "Thinhorn" action?

I'm pretty sure that is their Model Seven style action.

I would guess whomever RMR is it's their signature action!

The Thinhorn is the slabbed version of their regular action I believe. It's a m700 footprint

Rocky Mountain Rifles.