Pro’s & con’s? Seriously considering one. Used to have a Swift. It’s time for another fast 22 centerfire.

It's fast 28 and a lot of guys here in Texas have used them over the last 10 years or so on hogs and deer. Just twist it right and get you a handful of 75gr A maxes and go to town. powdr

Pro - fast

Con - short barrel life

Quality 6mm brass is non existent. Sure, you can keep and cull.

Of course it’s fast.....

You know what else is fast? My 22 Lapua... the barrel life doesn’t suck, and IT DOESNT SAY CREEDMOOR!!!

80.5 Bergers for game, and 69 TMK for critters.

Would be thinking a 1-7" chambered in 22-250,22-250AI, or 22 creed(no particular order).

No 78 gr amax

No reason I can think of to use a 80.5 Berger or a 69? 75 gr amax is great but now I'd be shooting a 88 ELD in a 1-7.

The ONLY reason I could see building a 224 TTH....really can't think of a logical one......

Too many good SA choices mentioned above to regurgitate. BETTER brass, BETTER case design and availability.

I gotta find me some of them 78gr AMaxes too.

22 Lapua? Care to expound?

OK Kaleb and Josh...you got me. 75's and not 78's. powdr

The TTH is a POS case design and an EPIC Goat Fhuqk. It's a COAL compromise,on top of same. Hint.

I just happen to shoot 7" 22-250 SALAMI. Mike Rock at 21".



And 22-250AI(fhuqking Krieger 1-7.7").



As well as 8" Kreedmire.



The 22-250 SALAMI is no Peach,in regards to case design,but smokes the TTH,due COAL latitude. It does it again,in relative brass quality too.

No flies on a 22-250AI,as it rights the '250 SALAMI's mechanical wrongs. That being said,the Kreedmire is the pick of the litter and by quite a margin. Stellar brass is easy to score and it is a very sound mechanical design to boot. I shoot 88 ELD's at 3250fps in my 23" and the .545BC do not suck.




Toss some rail inclination in the fray,drive 'Horn's and it's no thang to be left with 100++ MOA on a 10x MO/MO,with 40MOA laying in wait on the reticle,with a modest 250yd zero. It's stays supersonic past the 1550yd line and slips atmospherics rather exceptionally. With boat tail junctures above the shoulder juncture,COAL latitude is still exceedingly generous,for land chasin' and new projectile developments.



I'd never build a 22-250 SALAMI or AYE-EYE,with the advent of the 22 Kreedmire and the TTH Goat Fhuqk,has never rated a thunk...and never will.

Think boolits first,give twist a thunk,factor COAL latitude and spec a throat that ain't stupid. I prolly shoot a "few" 75 A-Max and 75 ELD's too.(grin)

You've been led to water.

Hint.

It’s just what it sounds like, 6.5 necked down. I recommend 3 steps, anneal before and after. Yes, anneal factory Lapua brass beforehand. That pretty job isn’t always perfect. I only do this when necking up or down though. Otherwise I’ll just get it after the first firing.

I don’t consider every rifle I’ve got to be a long range prospect. Coyote hunting is a short range game. Don’t call em don’t count em.

I started shooting the 80.5 purely for energy, and picked that specific one because it has the shortest bearing surface of anything over 70
Grains. I don’t skin coyotes, but the truck gets messy when you knock entire limbs off, hence the switch to 69 TMK. I built this rifle in January
and it’s about due a new pipe but I stabled it for the time being to save it for fall and winter tournaments.

Imagine this.... I’m actually going to get a 10 twist next time, and shoot 65-69 exclusively. Very untactical, I know.

My .22/6mm with coyote.


Used a 40 grain Nosler Varmageddon. The shot was 65 yards IIRC. By the way it has a 1-12" twist.

Wow! Nice job elk, haven’t heard from you in a while.. Nice to have you back... Just bought some of those 40 gr.. I will give them a try in my .22-250 AI or my Swift..

Never even heard of such a cartridge, but if Boxer doesn't like it, I think I will give it a try...

Good 6mm brass is hard to source, and IMHO, case capacity is excessive for a 22.

I built a 22-243AI, and while preferable to a 6mm parent, it is still actually too much case capacity.

As much as I hate to jump on any bandwagon, or join any clique, the 22 Creed does make sense.

I built one and shot the barrel out in short order. Killed whitetails like a lightening bolt. I often had trouble with 75 gr amax holding together if loaded too hot ... and it was hot man.

The idea was to do less with more and watch shots through the scope. It did that, but ultimately I did not want to trust a trophy buck with it. Lots of fun though.

Still here. I just read and post on occasion.
Couple more coyotes killed with the .22/6mm.

Head shot at about 100 yards.


This one came in a few minutes later. The shot was about 175 yards away.


As far as what boxer says about the .22/6mm.....

I wouldn't even consider it. 22/250 or AI for the win or 22 Creedmoor would keep it simple. If I ever build a fast 22 again it would be the Creedmoor

Looks like that’s where I’m headed.

I just had a 22-6MM AI with a 1 -14 twist. Im shooting 55 gr BT. And they are deadly on Coyotes and over 4300 fps, and that's not even pushing them.

Always wanted a TTH in-spite of the re-name but it does hit the point of diminishing returns. Next 22 will most like be the Creedmoor although I hate to jump on the band wagon.

The TTH geared to 75-100 grain bullets would be interesting but highly specialized. Would need around a 1-6 twist and that might shred lighter bullets at full speed.

Not too late to just go with the Lapua.

Elk, some nasty wounds there.. Will have to load some up as soon as I get home..

Are you having to turn necks?

I wouldn't be worried about "jumping on a bandwagon" the least. Simply makes more sense....

I'm just as happy running Alpha brass in the CMs as I am the Lapua in my 47s, and they happen to make 22 Creedmoor brass. If you don't wanna go that route, simply false shoulder some 6 CM brass in your flavor.

No, I don’t have to turn necks.

Alpha brass is splendid, however, the 22 Creed brass I have experience with would blow primers with the same load used in necked down Lapua 6.5, all other things being equal. When loaded to Alpha brass max, it ran not a single fps hotter than the 22x47. So, taking into account that this is a sample size of one, I don’t see a reason to own a 22 Creed if you can run the same velocity in a shorter powder column with a SRP. Of course, both rifles have shot a lot of high .1s and low .2s, and I can’t say any vermin could tell you the difference.

Understandably, for some, not having to neck down is worth it. As for me, I’d rather have the original than the copy any day, so I’ll stick with the Lapua rounds strictly on principle.

Have some .222 loaded up for this fall coyotes. Thinking about using my .25/06 on coyotes also this fall. It's been begging to be going hunting.

[/quote]I'm just as happy running Alpha brass in the CMs as I am the Lapua in my 47s, and they happen to make 22 Creedmoor brass. If you don't wanna go that route, simply false shoulder some 6 CM brass in your flavor.[/quote]

Yes it will be between the 22x47 and the 22 CM. Seems target shooters go with the 47 more, not sure if there is a real reason to or that they already had the 6.5 and wanted to stick with the family or not?

Boolits matter more than a Peter headstamp?

Boxer speaks an unintelligable language.

I had one for a couple years. I only shot one hog with it, it was a huge sow, but she was only about 25yds away. I shot her at base of skull ( she was angling away, standing) with a Swift 75gr Scirocco. It chilled her doo-doo right there but fragmented, of course. It was a flat shooter, but I never did get to hunt exotics with it as was my plan. Back then, 6mm Remington Winchester brass was available. I felt I had as much fun with it as I did with the easier, more available brass .220 Swift, 22-250, and the 22-250AI 8" twist/Hornady 68 OTM; that AI was pure coyote poison, and that fast twist would make a prairie dog go 5ft in the air, spinning to the right! ha! I never shot far enough to really warrant a heavier bullet than that Hornady and in the slower twists, the Hornady 60 SP was a real deer killer! I used 55gr Trophy Bonded Bear Claws in the swift. The wind did blow it around a lot. I found that the 6mms "did it for me" as far as a deer/coyote combo. My favorite was the 240 Weatherby followed by the 6mm Remington then the .243. BUT the .224 TTH is a lot of fun. I have no idea where one can even find 6mm Remington cases anymore, so you would have to make your own from .257 Roberts or even the 7x57. Good luck and enjoy yourself, its a short life!

The 224 TTH and the various 22-6mm s are all pretty much variations of the original wildcat 224 Clark.

http://www.singleactions.com/224Clark.html

I met and talked with Ken Clark at his Madera, CA gunshop not long before he passed away, nice guy.

Always wanted to build one, just because, but never got around to it.

Yeah, I've come to the conclusion that he, not the 224TTH, is the "epic goat ph uck (er)."

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Grafs has both Hornady and Prvi Partizan

I surely did not know that! I know a bunch of 6mm Remington guys who use it on everything, including elk, I just figured they were scrounging Ebay or GB for ammo/brass.