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Pro’s & con’s? Seriously considering one. Used to have a Swift. It’s time for another fast 22 centerfire.
By the way, in case you missed it, Jeremiah was a bullfrog.
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It's fast 28 and a lot of guys here in Texas have used them over the last 10 years or so on hogs and deer. Just twist it right and get you a handful of 75gr A maxes and go to town. powdr
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Pro - fast
Con - short barrel life
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Quality 6mm brass is non existent. Sure, you can keep and cull.
Of course it’s fast.....
You know what else is fast? My 22 Lapua... the barrel life doesn’t suck, and IT DOESNT SAY CREEDMOOR!!!
80.5 Bergers for game, and 69 TMK for critters.
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Would be thinking a 1-7" chambered in 22-250,22-250AI, or 22 creed(no particular order).
No 78 gr amax
No reason I can think of to use a 80.5 Berger or a 69? 75 gr amax is great but now I'd be shooting a 88 ELD in a 1-7.
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The ONLY reason I could see building a 224 TTH....really can't think of a logical one......
Too many good SA choices mentioned above to regurgitate. BETTER brass, BETTER case design and availability.
I gotta find me some of them 78gr AMaxes too.
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You know what else is fast? My 22 Lapua... the barrel life doesn’t suck, and IT DOESNT SAY CREEDMOOR!!!
80.5 Bergers for game, and 69 TMK for critters. 22 Lapua? Care to expound?
By the way, in case you missed it, Jeremiah was a bullfrog.
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OK Kaleb and Josh...you got me. 75's and not 78's. powdr
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The TTH is a POS case design and an EPIC Goat Fhuqk. It's a COAL compromise,on top of same. Hint. I just happen to shoot 7" 22-250 SALAMI. Mike Rock at 21". And 22-250AI(fhuqking Krieger 1-7.7"). As well as 8" Kreedmire. The 22-250 SALAMI is no Peach,in regards to case design,but smokes the TTH,due COAL latitude. It does it again,in relative brass quality too. No flies on a 22-250AI,as it rights the '250 SALAMI's mechanical wrongs. That being said,the Kreedmire is the pick of the litter and by quite a margin. Stellar brass is easy to score and it is a very sound mechanical design to boot. I shoot 88 ELD's at 3250fps in my 23" and the .545BC do not suck. Toss some rail inclination in the fray,drive 'Horn's and it's no thang to be left with 100++ MOA on a 10x MO/MO,with 40MOA laying in wait on the reticle,with a modest 250yd zero. It's stays supersonic past the 1550yd line and slips atmospherics rather exceptionally. With boat tail junctures above the shoulder juncture,COAL latitude is still exceedingly generous,for land chasin' and new projectile developments. I'd never build a 22-250 SALAMI or AYE-EYE,with the advent of the 22 Kreedmire and the TTH Goat Fhuqk,has never rated a thunk...and never will. Think boolits first,give twist a thunk,factor COAL latitude and spec a throat that ain't stupid. I prolly shoot a "few" 75 A-Max and 75 ELD's too.(grin) You've been led to water. Hint.
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You know what else is fast? My 22 Lapua... the barrel life doesn’t suck, and IT DOESNT SAY CREEDMOOR!!!
80.5 Bergers for game, and 69 TMK for critters. 22 Lapua? Care to expound? It’s just what it sounds like, 6.5 necked down. I recommend 3 steps, anneal before and after. Yes, anneal factory Lapua brass beforehand. That pretty job isn’t always perfect. I only do this when necking up or down though. Otherwise I’ll just get it after the first firing.
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Would be thinking a 1-7" chambered in 22-250,22-250AI, or 22 creed(no particular order).
No 78 gr amax
No reason I can think of to use a 80.5 Berger or a 69? 75 gr amax is great but now I'd be shooting a 88 ELD in a 1-7. I don’t consider every rifle I’ve got to be a long range prospect. Coyote hunting is a short range game. Don’t call em don’t count em. I started shooting the 80.5 purely for energy, and picked that specific one because it has the shortest bearing surface of anything over 70 Grains. I don’t skin coyotes, but the truck gets messy when you knock entire limbs off, hence the switch to 69 TMK. I built this rifle in January and it’s about due a new pipe but I stabled it for the time being to save it for fall and winter tournaments. Imagine this.... I’m actually going to get a 10 twist next time, and shoot 65-69 exclusively. Very untactical, I know.
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My .22/6mm with coyote. Used a 40 grain Nosler Varmageddon. The shot was 65 yards IIRC. By the way it has a 1-12" twist.
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Wow! Nice job elk, haven’t heard from you in a while.. Nice to have you back... Just bought some of those 40 gr.. I will give them a try in my .22-250 AI or my Swift..
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The TTH is a POS case design and an EPIC Goat Fhuqk. It's a COAL compromise,on top of same. Hint.
I'd never build a 22-250 SALAMI or AYE-EYE,with the advent of the 22 Kreedmire and the TTH Goat Fhuqk,has never rated a thunk...and never will.
Think boolits first,give twist a thunk,factor COAL latitude and spec a throat that ain't stupid. I prolly shoot a "few" 75 A-Max and 75 ELD's too.(grin)
You've been led to water.
Hint. Never even heard of such a cartridge, but if Boxer doesn't like it, I think I will give it a try...
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Good 6mm brass is hard to source, and IMHO, case capacity is excessive for a 22.
I built a 22-243AI, and while preferable to a 6mm parent, it is still actually too much case capacity.
As much as I hate to jump on any bandwagon, or join any clique, the 22 Creed does make sense.
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I built one and shot the barrel out in short order. Killed whitetails like a lightening bolt. I often had trouble with 75 gr amax holding together if loaded too hot ... and it was hot man.
The idea was to do less with more and watch shots through the scope. It did that, but ultimately I did not want to trust a trophy buck with it. Lots of fun though.
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Wow! Nice job elk, haven’t heard from you in a while.. Nice to have you back... Just bought some of those 40 gr.. I will give them a try in my .22-250 AI or my Swift.. Still here. I just read and post on occasion. Couple more coyotes killed with the .22/6mm. Head shot at about 100 yards. This one came in a few minutes later. The shot was about 175 yards away. As far as what boxer says about the .22/6mm.....
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I wouldn't even consider it. 22/250 or AI for the win or 22 Creedmoor would keep it simple. If I ever build a fast 22 again it would be the Creedmoor
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...........22 Creedmoor would keep it simple. If I ever build a fast 22 again it would be the Creedmoor Looks like that’s where I’m headed.
By the way, in case you missed it, Jeremiah was a bullfrog.
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I just had a 22-6MM AI with a 1 -14 twist. Im shooting 55 gr BT. And they are deadly on Coyotes and over 4300 fps, and that's not even pushing them.
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