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Posted By: johnsavage Savage 1911 - 10/30/23
American Rifleman Nov. 2023, p.42 has an article on the new Savage 1911 pistol.
Posted By: JoeMartin Re: Savage 1911 - 10/30/23
Thanks Jon, I just got that one. I took the 250 to WV for our 3 day, early doe season. it was so warm I didn't feel like hunting. I live in MD and we have to butcher our deer before crossing County lines because of CWD. I didn't really want to take a doe with it, so it's still #1 for regular rifle season, starting the Monday before Thanksgiving.
Posted By: wyo1895 Re: Savage 1911 - 10/31/23
Savage 1911 is tempting but I don't need one.
Posted By: gregintenn Re: Savage 1911 - 10/31/23
Originally Posted by wyo1895
Savage 1911 is tempting but I don't need one.
I’d like one, but not for twelve hundred dollars!
Posted By: 99guy Re: Savage 1911 - 10/31/23
Originally Posted by gregintenn
Originally Posted by wyo1895
Savage 1911 is tempting but I don't need one.
I’d like one, but not for twelve hundred dollars!

Is it gold plated?
Posted By: Southern_WI_Savage Re: Savage 1911 - 10/31/23
Originally Posted by gregintenn
Originally Posted by wyo1895
Savage 1911 is tempting but I don't need one.
I’d like one, but not for twelve hundred dollars!
Originally Posted by 99guy
Originally Posted by gregintenn
Originally Posted by wyo1895
Savage 1911 is tempting but I don't need one.
I’d like one, but not for twelve hundred dollars!

Is it gold plated?
Seems like it is priced right in there with other new "1911's" (~$800 - $2000)

How much would you be willing to pay for one?
Posted By: johnsavage Re: Savage 1911 - 10/31/23
Depends on how it shoots. I was given an Ed Brown Special Forces .45 for my 70th and it feels and shoots a lot different from any others I’ve ever used….can’t hear or feel it cycle, just smooth a silk! I would have to shoot the Savage before I chose to spent the bucks.
Posted By: 99guy Re: Savage 1911 - 10/31/23
Originally Posted by Southern_WI_Savage
Originally Posted by gregintenn
Originally Posted by wyo1895
Savage 1911 is tempting but I don't need one.
I’d like one, but not for twelve hundred dollars!
Originally Posted by 99guy
Originally Posted by gregintenn
Originally Posted by wyo1895
Savage 1911 is tempting but I don't need one.
I’d like one, but not for twelve hundred dollars!

Is it gold plated?
Seems like it is priced right in there with other new "1911's" (~$800 - $2000)

How much would you be willing to pay for one?

I'd be willing to pay 800 for a Ruger SR 1911. That's what I paid for mine
Posted By: Southern_WI_Savage Re: Savage 1911 - 10/31/23
Originally Posted by 99guy
I'd be willing to pay 800 for a Ruger SR 1911. That's what I paid for mine
That's fine.
I have a 70 series Colt nickel, smooth as silk. Love it.

Beyond that, all new 1911's are not created equal.
Aluminum or stainless steel?
Sights?
Grips?
Prices vary with options.

I look forward to shooting one the new Savage 1911's and then we'll see about purchase.

Originally Posted by wyo1895
Savage 1911 is tempting but I don't need one.
When did NEED become an issue? smile
Posted By: wyo1895 Re: Savage 1911 - 10/31/23
The American Rifleman article was very complementary on the quality, smooth action, lack of problems that are usually inherent in a new 1911. I think it's worth it. Maybe after the first of the year.
Posted By: Southern_WI_Savage Re: Savage 1911 - 10/31/23
Do any experienced Colt guys here have any experience with a Savage 1911?

KeithNyst?

Wondering if in the same ballpark? Or apples and oranges?
Posted By: 99guy Re: Savage 1911 - 11/01/23
I've not read the best reviews on the newer Colts. One review I read in fact suggested buying a Ruger instead.

So I did. No complaints.

I've owned several WW ll 1911's over the years. Most of them Colts. No complaints there either.

Maybe Savages new 1911 is a home run. Seems a little salty in price to me though.
Posted By: Jericho Re: Savage 1911 - 11/01/23
Didnt Savage make some 1911s before WWI?
Posted By: 99guy Re: Savage 1911 - 11/01/23
They made some 1911 parts. Slides as I recall, but never any complete pistols. That may have been more like between the wars, before or during WW ll.

I'm sure somebody knows the whole story better than I do.
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 1911 - 11/01/23
Not Savage Arms. It was A.J.'s and Arthur's company in San Diego that made some slides (at least). About as much as I know.
Posted By: Southern_WI_Savage Re: Savage 1911 - 11/01/23
Originally Posted by Calhoun
Not Savage Arms. It was A.J.'s and Arthur's company in San Diego that made some slides (at least). About as much as I know.
I think the Colt guys have debunked the Savage slide story. Keith has brought this up previously.
Posted By: Southern_WI_Savage Re: Savage 1911 - 11/01/23
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 1911 - 11/01/23
Originally Posted by Southern_WI_Savage
Originally Posted by Calhoun
Not Savage Arms. It was A.J.'s and Arthur's company in San Diego that made some slides (at least). About as much as I know.
I think the Colt guys have debunked the Savage slide story. Keith has brought this up previously.
They have a theory, a pretty good one. But don't think they have firm proof. Whether it was Springfield Armory or AJ/Arthur's company in San Diego - it wasn't Savage Arms.
Posted By: wyo1895 Re: Savage 1911 - 11/01/23
the ambidextrous safety shown in the video convinced me to get one after the first of the year when I recover from paying property taxes. Maybe I'll sell my gold cup to help pay for it.
Posted By: Southern_WI_Savage Re: Savage 1911 - 11/01/23
Good article here: Savage 1911 guns & ammo

Explains some of Savages rational for this pistol price point.

The Manufacturer’s Suggested Retail Pricing (MSRP) will start at $1,350 for the all-­black Melonite and all-­stainless models; $1,425 for the two-­tone models; and $1,500 for the rail guns. How did Savage arrive at these price points? Some of it had to with factoring in costs to source certain high-­quality components from suppliers. In the effort to situate its position for making premium products, Savage targeted the price-­point for similarly equipped models offered by brands such as Ruger and Smith & Wesson.
Posted By: gregintenn Re: Savage 1911 - 11/01/23
Originally Posted by Southern_WI_Savage
Good article here: Savage 1911 guns & ammo

Explains some of Savages rational for this pistol price point.

The Manufacturer’s Suggested Retail Pricing (MSRP) will start at $1,350 for the all-­black Melonite and all-­stainless models; $1,425 for the two-­tone models; and $1,500 for the rail guns. How did Savage arrive at these price points? Some of it had to with factoring in costs to source certain high-­quality components from suppliers. In the effort to situate its position for making premium products, Savage targeted the price-­point for similarly equipped models offered by brands such as Ruger and Smith & Wesson.

Looks like a quality gun, but Savage has made its beans in the economy section for many years now. I wish them success, but I expect they’ll have trouble selling these at that price. I’m not saying they aren’t worth it. I don’t know. I’m just saying perception is a powerful force to overcome. To me, this is akin to Kia introducing a $100k sports car. A difficult sale, no matter the quality.
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 1911 - 11/01/23
They did start with the Savage Stance pistols, but they went deluxe 1911 really quick. Considering they dropped their AR line of rifles at about the same time (presumably due to low sales), I didn't think it was a wise move.

If they'd done an entry level and more deluxe model, that'd have made more sense to me. But it's their company.
Posted By: Savage1907 Re: Savage 1911 - 11/01/23
Originally Posted by Jericho
Didnt Savage make some 1911s before WWI?


Savage made FOUR Savage Model 1911s in .45 ACP, but not in the Colt design. An attempt to sway the results of the final Army Trial of March 1911.

Savage Pistols ( Brower ) pages 25-27. Us Military Automatic Pistols 1894-1920 (Meadows) pages 256-260.
Posted By: Jericho Re: Savage 1911 - 11/01/23
Interesting, I did not know Savage dropped the AR15 line of rifles. They were all the rage for awhile. I see used ones every now and then for around $800
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 1911 - 11/01/23
Originally Posted by Jericho
Interesting, I did not know Savage dropped the AR15 line of rifles. They were all the rage for awhile. I see used ones every now and then for around $800
Yeah.. I was looking at a MSR15 in 223 with Vortex scope, was asking $850 and I was weakening... but gone now. At some point I'm gonna have to get one.
Posted By: wyo1895 Re: Savage 1911 - 11/01/23
cheaper than dirt has had some new ones for under $500 lately. quality is probably poor.
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 1911 - 11/01/23
Don't think they had Savage MSR's for under $500.. but they do still list some Savage ones.
Posted By: Jericho Re: Savage 1911 - 11/01/23
The Savage Stance pistol doesnt seem to be popular either
Posted By: wyo1895 Re: Savage 1911 - 11/02/23
don't know about Savage AR15's. Cheaper than dirt has some off brand AR's for under $500
Posted By: KeithNyst Re: Savage 1911 - 11/03/23
I gave my son a Springfield Armory Defender MilSpec 1911 45. EExcellent for the $. Less than $650.
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