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Posted By: Calhoun Model Stamps - 08/02/06
Well, learned something new... everybody else probably knows it, but I've got a couple of questions.

A post the other day had me looking at my G, and I noticed a stamped G in the wood on the top of the forearm stock in front of the hole you use to twist the barrel off. I thought, "Cool! A model stamp..". Then I looked, and darn if there wasn't a G stamped into the metal on the front of the receiver. Hmmm... 1940 99G with the model stamped into the front of the receiver..

1945 EG? Yup... E and G stamped into the front of the receiver.

1901 1899B? Nope.. got a 2 stamped in it though. Mean something? Probably not..

1902 1899C? Nope, has an O. Maybe 0/1/2 for model # stampings?

1904 1899A? Nope.. in fact, it's got a couple of weird stamps.

Anyway, I was wondering exactly which models would have their model stamped on the front of the reciever, and what years it ran from? Gotta add it to my notes..

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Posted By: Calhoun Re: Model Stamps - 08/02/06
And... who's got a lettered RS from this period? REALLY curious whether they stamped the R's and RS's.
Posted By: Arkie99 Re: Model Stamps - 08/02/06
Calhoun,

Don't know if this will help, but I have a 99 that I BELIEVE
to be an 'R' serial no. 343xxx. It only has an 8 (eight)
stamped on the same place and side as your top pic.

I can't swear that it is an 'R' cause the wood was Bubba'ed. I'm going to get a letter just out of curiousity

Jerry
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Model Stamps - 08/02/06
An 8.. definitely not a mistruck R, eh?<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Okay, well that's more information. Maybe R's were never struck, or maybe 343xxx is before they started doing it.

Thanks Arkie.. Anybody else out there?
Posted By: Rick99 Re: Model Stamps - 08/02/06
One "R", three "RS", 34xxxx-40xxxx...all stamped "8". Not all on the same side. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: Arkie99 Re: Model Stamps - 08/02/06
It might not seperate the "R" from the "RS", but it might
be a way to tell if it is in fact an "R"/"RS"!??

What do you think Rick?

Jerry
Posted By: Blitz Re: Model Stamps - 08/02/06
1899H HP 22 TD 173xxx has a Z on the side opposite the counter window.
Posted By: 3589 Re: Model Stamps - 08/02/06
Hi Cal,

I think T`s are stamped that way. All 5 of mine have a capital T on the upper right hand side [as you look at it]
Bob
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Model Stamps - 08/02/06
Five T's? Lucky man... thanks 3589. What serial number ranges are we looking at on the T's?

So we have a string of R's/RS's with 8's. T's with T.

Can anybody else verify their earlier or later model G's and EG's?

Hmm.. model K check from anybody? Early 99A's?
Posted By: 3589 Re: Model Stamps - 08/02/06
Cal
#35076x/303 #35101x/300 #38296x/300 #38329x/30-30 and #38444x/300 I`m still looking hard too, shooter or S/Q , I would buy almost any T.
Bob
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Model Stamps - 08/02/06
Just don't take that 303 near Colorado... someone there is hurting real bad for a T in 303. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Seen a few go by this spring on the auction sites, usually unidentified or misidentified as R's. Been a while, have to start keeping a list of folks who are looking for them. Since you have 5, I think Cube will be above you on the list:-).
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YUP
Posted By: SAcharlie Re: Model Stamps - 08/02/06
I know the point here is to find all the info we can and Calhoun is on to something I've never seen discussed before but do y'all already have every mark on your rifles noted down on paper or are ya tearing the rifles down tha often.
Posted By: Rick99 Re: Model Stamps - 08/03/06
Murray noted some of these markings in his book, T and the K. Some we have talked about in the past...EG (pre-war) and T's. I didn't have any notes on the R/RS (two of mine I'd never had the forearm off of). But not all models are marked as to what they are. I think the B & D are maked B. This is good info. Keep looking.

The question I have is when did it start and stop? I'm thinking after the 1927 changes...maybe early 30's and stopped during WWII?

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Posted By: Calhoun Re: Model Stamps - 08/03/06
Agree with you totally Rick. My EG is mid-1945 as per letter, so that takes care of the war years (well, as much as anything does). So we need later EGs to check on.

Charlie, yeah, forearms have to come off for this. Not a big deal for me and my shooters, but I definitely hope nobody takes a safe queen and mucks up the forearm screw just for this purpose. Ain't rocket science to remove a forearm without hurting it, but I hope anybody who does is careful. How often do I take the forearms off? Don't unless there's a purpose. My EG I've had for a year, probably been off 2 times. Once for cleaning/oiling the barrel and checking serial numbers, once for this check. My G I was taking apart to get the front Stith mount removed when I checked for the stamp -- I feel better keeping the wood and receiver away from a gunsmith that I'm unacquainted with.

Gonna try to sneak into Jed's safe while I'm at the fest and check his F's.... NOT!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: ldorado Re: Model Stamps - 08/03/06
Calhoun, checked my two G's. They're not marked. My H is marked with a Z. Also found a Z on a takedown A. The A and H were probably born a few months apart (1915 & 1916). Both have the Z and the same inspector's stamp, (a H in a circle). Now I'll have to check my T and R for stamps.

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Posted By: Calhoun Re: Model Stamps - 08/03/06
Thanks ldorado.. I was figuring the early ones wouldn't fit the mould. The T and R should be interesting. Guessing we'll see a T and an 8.
Posted By: ldorado Re: Model Stamps - 08/04/06
Guess that's what we get for guessing. Neither the T nor the R has any stamp on the receiver face. None of mine that are supposed (possibly) to be stamped are stamped. Guess the stamp guy was in the outhouse when mine came through.
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Model Stamps - 08/04/06
Nothing on the T or R? Well, the T might help us set a range. What years/serial number ranges are those?
Posted By: Rick99 Re: Model Stamps - 08/05/06
What are the serial ranges?
Posted By: Loggah Re: Model Stamps - 08/05/06
Just looked at my T serial no 375xxx marked with a T, my early R serial no 342xxx marked with a 8 my two later R's 1950's vintage have no markings on then.Don
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Model Stamps - 08/05/06
Thanks Don.
Posted By: gd'40EG-300 Re: Model Stamps - 08/06/06
My 1940 EG is stamped on the front of the frame ( EG ) ....my 1949 EG is not stamped with the model designation ......
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Model Stamps - 08/06/06
thank ya gd.. what serial number ranges are we looking at?
Posted By: gd'40EG-300 Re: Model Stamps - 08/06/06
393,XXX ( 1940 ) ....and 518,XXX ( 1949 )
Posted By: dedseven Re: Model Stamps - 08/06/06
My Savage model 99R has no stamps on the receiver face at all. s/n 5754xx, Lever boss code is 21B. Made in 1950 I'm thinkin'.
Posted By: ldorado Re: Model Stamps - 08/07/06
Calhoun, The T is 3679xx, and the R is 5717xx.
Posted By: Rick99 Re: Model Stamps - 08/07/06
I wouldn't expect the R to be marked, 1950 production. The T just shows that you can't count on the markings always being there. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: ldorado Re: Model Stamps - 08/14/06
Calhoun, found a model mark on my T, I think. Big capital T (in case you can't tell in the pic) stamped in the butt stock under the plate.

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Posted By: Calhoun Re: Model Stamps - 08/14/06
Ah man... now I'm gonna have to go strip my buttstocks off of my G and EG and check. Guess I'll do a bit more cleaning, take some good pics and make this the last time.

Gonna have some bigtime bad Jed mojo going on here.. all these Savage screws being touched by screwdrivers...
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Model Stamps - 08/15/06
Well, no G on the buttstock of the 1940G. It does have an interesting X.. rather than the X being stamped, the wood around the X has been depressed making a "raised" X. Odd stamp to use..

The 1945 EG is no help... stock/buttplate isn't right to it. They are from beginning of 1951. Forearm is correct though.. don't think anybody would have spotted it as wrong, they match so good. If anybody is curious, the 1951 stock has SN, and three stamps. A "U" and "Y" close together, and either a one "1" or lower case L below it and 90 degrees off.

Anyway, here's a pic of the G buttstock.

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Posted By: Calhoun Re: Model Stamps - 08/15/06
Oh yeah... no stamps inside anywhere on the receiver of the 1940G or the 1945EG that I could find.

Been trying to figure out why and when they would stamp the G or EG with the model number. Was there a difference in the 30's/40's between an R, T, or EG receiver mechanically or size-wise? Were they stamped right before fitting the wood, or earlier? So many questions, and so late at night...

Oh, and I'm glad I took the stock off of the G. Allowed me to find that the inside of the buttplate has been rusting and clean it up some and prevent any more pitting. Gonna coat it with snake oil before putting it back together. Love the case color on this.. receiver blue could be better, but I'm happy.

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