It may be too early to start this thread. Wouldn't mind even making it a sticky. But I thought it would be cool (and interesting and informative), to have an ongoing thread on bullet performance showing entrance/exit holes of various bullets/calibers.

Bow season opens Saturday here. Early youth deer hunt already over. But somebody has to be shooting whitetails, mule deer, or speed goats somewhere. I guess we could put up older pics also.

What do you guys think?

I've posted this before in another thread, but I shot a buck at about 35 yards with a Hornady 200 grain spire point interlock loaded over IMR 3031 from my BLR .358 Winchester. The buck started quartering away just as I pulled the trigger. Bullet entered towards the rear of his left rib cage, shattered his right shoulder and lodged in his ball socket. He ran about 40 yards after the shot. Retained weight was 149.4 grains. Pics below. It did the job, but I was disappointed it didn't exit. That was a tough buck to run as far as he did with a shattered scapula and a bullet wedged in his ball socket. His lungs were soup, but no blood trail since no exit. His right leg flailed upward as he fell out of sight in a slight depression. This did leave me wondering had I hit him in the left shoulder first instead of the rib cage whether it would have penetrated that first shoulder to reach his vitals. Perhaps the bullet would have penetrated further at a slower velocity with less rapid expansion. Likewise, a step up to a 225 or 250 grain cup and core probably would have punched through as well. Having said that, he fell in sight and sometimes they are just going to run, so I certainly wouldn't claim the 200 gr interlock isn't up to the task.

Entrance wound to ribcage circled

Offside wound to shoulder/scapula

223 grain PowerBelt Aerotip backed by 70gr (volume) of BH209 for approximately 1750fps. 50 yards, base of the neck. Exit was about 1" diameter....

A girl and her first deer....

Nice buck. I have not used that bullet, but have used the RN version in 35 Rem on a few deer. What yours did is about what I would expect the RN to do at 35 Rem velocities. I really wish I had pics of all my deer with various chamberings/bullets. I made it a point to skip around and use different rifles. Was a guy shooting a BLR 358 stainless/laminate at club Monday.

Dogshooter---Very nice. Love seeing a kid with their first deer. Looks like she is a natural. Musta got that from the wife.....Lol.
I need to try the BH 209. I haven't simply because I had so much T7 on hand. Looks like very respectable velocities even though it is a lighter bullet. Seems like a good load for her. Well done.

I will admit, I don't like PB bullets, but won't get into that here. They did the job, and that is all that matters. I just shot the last of my Win Supreme 250 Silvertips. They were great deer bullets IME, and I klled a lot of deer with them. Cannot believe they quit making them. Last 3 muzzleloader kills were with Barnes 250s, which have also been excellent, but at twice the price. Next year I just may buy some sabots and try some of the Hornady 250 FTXs (that I load in my 450 Bushmaster) in the muzzy. Maybe with some BH209......

Here is an interesting one:

This buck was taken offhand at 100ish yds. via 7-08 120TSX. As often happens to me, I was walking to my tree stand, and he was already past it and on his way out of the cedar swamp. He saw me first, turned and ran back into woods a little ways. Stopped, turned, and looked back. That is exactly when bullet impacted. Went through the neck, and also through under the spine. 4 holes. DRT.......

2 examples of a 250 XTP (.452) from a smokeless ML at bow range. These are entrance pics, no exit on either. It be vicious at close range...

Rage 2 broad head

The guy that cuts up my older son's deer complains about those rage holes all the time. Nasty.

376 Steyr 270gr Hornady SP


308WIN 168 AMAX


300BO 110 Sierra HP

Heck of a hole that 376 makes......

Last years buck shot with a 7x57 and a 160 gr SGK at @ 110 yds.



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My son who is 10 just shot a mule deer buck 2 weeks ago. The buck was bedded directly away from us at 275 yds. My boy was laying prone. I had him hold about 8" behind the bucks shoulders.He was shooting my 243 with 105 berger hybrids. The shot broke the bucks back,continued into the chest, and destroyed the lungs. I found the bottom piece of the bullets jacket under the hide of the brisket. The bullet began rapid expansion upon hitting the spine,but continued downward through the chest. The buck absorbed all of the bullets energy. At the shot, the buck simply rolled over. The buck grossed 172, was 5 1/2 and really big bodied. Not sure of the weight. We have shot 3 big bucks with this bullet, all with excellent results.

Very nice. Great shot for a 10 year old. Love it....

He shoots very well. Lots of practice. Sorry no pics.

makes tracking easy.

What rifle?

Yearling buck shot quartering away from 40yds with a 358 win and the Winchester 200gr Silvertip Factory load. Pic was taken as it lay. The shoulder was broken on the way out, evident by the dangling front leg. Note the perfectly intact, but detached stomach in the background were it fell out during the death run.




Whitetail doe shot with a 308 win at 300 yes with a Winchester XP Deer Season 150gr factory load. The shot was quartering too the rifle.

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Shoulder was obviously busted and a huge cavity created on impact


Punched through the offside ribcage and stopped under the hide

I kinda miss my M70 classic fwt. Mine was a 7 mag though, and it sat while my 7-08s went hunting.

Nice pic....

I was thinking the other day that if they sold that Win bullet as a component bullet that I would try it....

That one was fired from an 18" barrel and clocked 2650fps at the muzzle.

Antelope, 150 yds, 22-250 with Sierra 55 gr spitzer boat tail. Heart and lungs were obliterated. Somehow it broke 2 ribs going in but the hole in the hide was only 1/4" wide. It barely clipped the soft tissue in the back of leg but not enough to expand it.




remaining weight 27 gr. Found just inside far shoulder, hit no bones after the entry ribs.

Wow. Pretty impressive for that bullet......

Bartlein 8 twist. McMillan stock. Rem 788 action SS 3x15 scope.

26 Nosler using 123 Scenar at 100yds. DRT

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Exit.


Blood splatter

7mag,150gr Nosler Ballistic Tip,67.5 Winchester WXR,3100fps,whitetail doe,125yds.

That 150 BT is not that bad....Ive seen wound channels like that from 7mm Partitions.

The newer ones are much better than the older ones for sure.

Ha. Was thinking exact same thing looking at the pic, then read your reply.....

I see a pattern here. Bullets kill !! Lol.

2much - is that a Mcm Sako 75 7-08? Compared the Ttsx vs Tsx?

Yes it is. I have a bunch of TTSX here for it, but haven't got through all the TSXs yet. Funny you mention that though, as I was just thinking of loading some the other day. It is just that I have a lot of 7-08 loaded, but a lot of Barnes bullets on hand.

I also have like 700 Winchester PP here. 150 gr. I decided I may just sling them at Michigan deer. I don't think the results will be any different. They aren't as sexy, but were less than half price of the Barnes and will drop deer all day long...

2Much I am not much of a BT hunter, although I shoot them a lot.

But I thought those 150 7mm's were bombs of some kind. I did use to see that from the old Solid Base and other BT's but it looks to me like they are tougher than I thought.

Well, if you look at the cross sections of the respective bullets on Nosler's website the BT looks a whole lot like the front part of a partition. The jacket gets pretty thick towards the rear and it has a solid base.

From my experience with 150 grainers in 30-06, the wreckage looks pretty much like baldhunter's pic. Fine bullets IMO.

The cross sections I did,the ballistic tip looked like the accubond without the bonding.I quit using them back in the early 90's,but the newer ones are really good.

http://www.nosler.com/ballistic-tip-bullet

http://www.nosler.com/accubond-bullet/

http://www.nosler.com/partition-bullet/

I know what ya mean Bob. They did used to be bombs IIRC.

I was ruined on BT apparently because I tried them when they first came out. Mostly in 7mm and .277. I personally have only killed 1 deer with a 270 Win. It was with an early version 130 NBT. But my bud and his late dad killed a bunch with those 130s that I saw. Every kill in both 7mm and 270 was just.......messy........

I think that might be why I have a stash of them now. I got into reloading about 4 years ago just before the Sandy Hook ammo panic and SSTs and BTs were the only bullets I could find afterward so I bought a few hundred. I think everyone else bought the "good bullets" up first and left the "bombs" on the shelves, at least for a while......luckily, they ain't bombs any more.

[quote=2muchgun]I know what ya mean Bob. They did used to be bombs IIRC.

I was ruined on BT apparently because I tried them when they first came out. Mostly in 7mm and .277. I personally have only killed 1 deer with a 270 Win. It was with an early version 130 NBT. But my bud and his late dad killed a bunch with those 130s that I saw. Every kill in both 7mm and 270 was just.......messy........ [/quote


I did the same thing with the early 150BT out of my 7mags. Hated the darn things. The latest 150 and 120g .284's are tough though (thanks Dober and Mule Deer for convincing me to try them again).

Latest? How do you define that...part number, packaging, etc?

There is an elderly gentleman at the local gun club that quit hunting is going to be selling .284 bullets and reloading equipment.

Yes they were very messy and just blew all to pieces.In 1994,I shot a buck in the shoulder at 250yds with the old 150gr ballistic tip and it didn't make it through the scapula.He went down and I did recover the deer with a neck shot later.I was quite surprised when I cleaned the deer,because I could clearly see blood coming from his nose and mouth and I thought that it had penetrated into the chest cavity.I guess the old 7mag hit him hard enough to knock the wind out of him and cause him to hemorrhage on the inside.I guess there is another argument for using enough gun.Had I been using a small caliber that day and the same thing happened,I am sure that deer would have never been recovered.I have those pieces somewhere and if I can find them I'll post the picture.After that I switched to a different bullet and just started shooting them again the last couple of years and find them to now be a very good bullet.This is a photo of the fragments of the old 150gr 7mm BT I recovered from the buck's scapula.

A puny 87 grain HotCor 250-3000 exit hole on this camp meat. Grazed a rib going in from just shy of a 100 yards.

7mm Rem Magnificent, 168 VLD H, 100 yds....

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7mm Rem Magnificent, 139gr Hornady SST Superformance, 100 yd impact on bone....obviously the most gruesome kill I've ever seen, and don't care to see one like it again.

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7mm Rem Magnificent, 160 Nosler Partition, 175 yds.

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7mm Rem Magnificent, 160 nosler partition, 200 yds

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7mm Rem Magnificent, 160 Accubond, 100 yards

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That looks like a CNS boiler room shot. Prolly didn't go far.....

That SST shot is pretty messy. Didn't ruin too much backstrap I hope.

Not long before cell phones with cameras I made a great shot on a running buck. 444 Marlin. Hit him while he was bounding upward, he went down and never moved even a twitch. 50-60yds. Broke spine so bad you could fold the deer in half. You could put the backstraps in a hot dog bun

Here is one from this morning a 3 pt. mulie hit at about 260 yards by a 165 gr. Sierra Hollow Point Boatail leaving the muzzle at about 3350 fps.

What speed are you running the 123 scenars? I have two swedes that shoot the 123 scenar into tiny groups at range (actually better than 139 scenar in these rifles) but I just have never used it on whitetails...

3400fps

Bob,

Nosler started toughening up the Ballistic Tips shortly after they introduced them in the mid-1980's. At first they simply put a plastic tip in what had been the Solid Base soft-points, but didn't realize what effect the rather large hole necessary for the insertion of the tip would have on expansion. But as soon as it became apparent, they made changes, at first in core hardness.

But eventually they also thickened the jacket as they introduced new models. The first of these was the 200-grain .338, which appeared in 1993. I tested some in dry newspaper (a very tough bullet test), shooting 210 Partitions alongside them, and found the 200 BT's penetrated 90% as deeply and retained around 60% of their weight. Killed my biggest-bodied bull caribou with one that fall, at about 200 yards, the bullet entering the pocket behind the right shoulder and exiting the bones of the left shoulder. The bull dropped right there, straight down, posed for the trophy shot, and the wound channel could have easily been made by a 210 Partition.

A few years later used the same bullet and load to shoot my first gemsbok, a good bull quartering almost directly toward me at 150-175 yards. The bullet cracked the spine where it dips down between the shoulders, then went on through the rest of the bull, ending up under the hide on the rump, retaining 59% of its weight.

I never had any trouble with various Ballistic Tips from 1992 on, but always made sure to use recent versions. This included a 140-grain from a 7mm STW shot into a pronghorn buck angling away at about 200 yards. The bullet entered the rear of the ribs on the right side and was found, bulging the skin of the left shoulder, retaining 56% of its weight.

There are still essentially two versions, one which might be called the "standard" model and the heavy-jacket version based on the 200-grain .338. If recovered, the standard version usually retains around 50% of its weight, give or take 10%. Fairly recent examples are a 120-grain 6.5mm shot into a pronghorn doe quartering toward me at around 250 yards from a 6.5 Creedmoor. The bullet entered just behind the right shoulder joint and was recovered from the skin of the left ham, retaining 59% of its weight.

Another was a 100-grain .25 put into the shoulder joint of a Montana whitetail doe at about 50 yards, the bullet started at 3100 fps from a .257 Roberts. The bullet was recovered under the hide at the rear of the ribs on the far side, retaining 42% of its weight. Last winter a friend (who happens to be more of a heavy-bullet guy) killed a big aoudad ram at around 250 yards with the same bullet from a .250 Savage. This was his first aoudad hunt and he'd heard a lot of people recommend .300 magnums, but the little Ballistic Tip shot so well in his rifle he went ahead. The ram went about 40 yards and fell over dead. A Montana friend shot a broadside cow elk with one from a .25-06, and the bullet blew on through, dropping the elk within a few yards.

I obviously don't use Ballistic Tips all the time, partly because of having to mix things up due to my job, but have used the 95-grain 6mm; 100- and 115 .25's; 120 6.5; 120, 140 and 150 7mm; 165 and 180 .30; and 200 .338 enough to have plenty of confidence in using any of them. (Oddly enough, haven't used any in the .270 Winchester, but a local friend has taken over a dozen elk with the 150, and prefers it over any other .270 bullet for elk.) Might choose the equivalent Partition (or AccuBond) for some purposes instead, but in the past 25 years haven't experienced any problems with Ballistic Tips.

Nice shot.

.300 Win Mag?

The ones I had problems with were packed 100 to the box.They were the early ones that had the bad reputation.I think around 1995 they started packing 50 to the box.The 120gr and 140gr didn't seem to be as bad as the 150gr in 7mm.It was so bad at the time,some ranches here in Texas would not allow them being used.Nosler fixed all that and they have me back as a customer.

yup, that is faster than my swede ;-)
I still suspect it works at slower swede speeds just fine

John I shoot the 150 BT in the 7 mag and the 100 gr in the Roberts. I just have not killed anything with either one yet but it sure seems like they have toughened up over the years.

Elk, yes!!

My pics all suck. Lots of dead deer, just nothing taken specifically to look at bullet holes.

This was an entrance made by a 250 Gr. Barnes Expander MZ at 40 yds. Angling shot. Buck never took a step.....

Ar-15 5.56 via 70 gr TSX at 30 yds. Went through front between brisket and shoulder. Through heart, exited by his butthole. He ran maybe 30 yds......

One I stuck with a Schrade 15OT. Now you know why it is called the 15OT "Deerslayer".....

Poorly placed off hand shot with a iron sighted 375 h&h , 300gr round nose soft point , on a doe culling trip on my buddies property .

Dang, I missed this post till today.
I could have got pics of my 2016 Michigan archery buck kill. A 100gr Slick Trick center punched heart.

Still have 4 tags , stay tuned...grin

JG, in your opinion, is that typical of VLD's ?

I knew they were made to be frangible, but that wound is horrific.

It's hard to imagine there was anything edible on the front half of that animal + possibly loins, from what looks like perfect placement behind the shoulder.

I'm not too fond of a bullet that waste that much meat.

New 2 99's, I can't honestly say, but I would want a sample of more than one to be sure. I hear great things about them, but when something like this happens it's hard to forget, ya know? I do know I also shot 4-5 feral hogs with them and got no blood trails, no exits, and had I not seen the hogs go into a particular plum thicket I would not have found any of them.


Sorry I can't be more help on the subject.

Cheers & thank you for your honest reply JG.

I am not surprised at the damage on JG's deer. That's what happens when a thin jacketed bullet impacts at high velocity. How can we really expect anything different?

I have even had a quarter completely blood shot from a 140 Nosler partition started at almost 3300 fps. No doubt it happens less frequently with a Partition but high velocity and frangible jackets will do that.

No surprises here I think.

I used to have a 358 win that I could chew right up to the hole with - it hit hard but not a lot of meat damage outside of that.

Now I have a 9.3x62, and can light load it for deer and should get pretty close to the same result.

I stuck a 5 point at about 60 paces with a 150 swift Sirroco a few years back running at max from a 26" tube.
the insides poured out.

Blacktail doe shot with a 12 gauge Hornady sst. I didn't save entrance and exit pics. 300 gr. sabot.

I guess all you guys care about is knocking down a 60# aniimal with a bazooka??? Don't give a $hit about the meat ?????? What a waste

Of course people care about meat. But who shoots 60# deer?

You have to destroy some meat to kill animals, but this stuff is not hard; just shoot tougher bullets if you're going to use high velocity cartridges .

Problem is a lot of people have not resolved the inherent contradictions of thinking highly frangible bullets are the only answer to killing animals quickly.

They outfit themselves with thin skinned bombs for 800 yard shots then wonder why the animal looks like it went through a blender when you shoot him at under 300 yards. Funny to read this stuff.

If they think they have to shoot a deer at 800 yds then they arent hunters anyway!! Funny but extremely STUPID!!!!!!!!!

Is shot 2 whitetails with a 180 grain VLD from a 7WSM.

MV was over 3000 fps. Both had smallish exit holes and nothing like that kind of mess. Wow.

Wish I had snapped a pic when I walked up to this deer yesterday, but my little point-and-shoot camera crapped out on me. So it was cell-phone pics after the drag out. The exit is the bright spot between the two dark blood clot spots. Heck of a blood trail, sprayed on tree trunks and the ground, no real "tracking" required on a 40yd death run through the briars. Exit hole in the rib cage was about nickel-sized when you moved the hide to really see it.



What impressed me was the fact that this was a reduced load we were trying in my daughter's 20" barreled 7mm-08 and it utilized the 120 TTSX at roughly 2,550-2,600fps with 31gr of H4198 (Guesstimate on speed, as another member here quoted 2,530fps from 30gr IMR4198 in a 20" gun). We have a lot of hogs here, so I wanted a bullet that would penetrate. Impact speed at 125 yards should have been only 2,300fps or so, but it thoroughly wrecked the lungs, with soup pouring out when we rolled the deer over. No shoulders hit on the broadside shot. The load is 3/4MOA and seems to work well enough even on ribcage shots on 100lb does, so we'll stick with it for now. And my 11yr old enjoys practicing with it in her 7.75lb scoped M700. A sight-in of 2" high at 100yds is only 1" low at 200yds. Have to love the flexibility of handloading sometimes.....

The 7-08 /120 TSX is a great combo for deer.....

I was rather pleased to see good internal damage at such a moderate impact speed, as I've always tried to push a mono-construction bullet as fast as possible. I know we've had good results with full-power loads with the 110TTSX in the 7mm-08 at 3,150+ and the 130TTSX in the .308Win at 3,000 or so. That impact speed at 125yds with the light load was roughly equivalent to a 300yd impact with a full-power 120gr load. Good to know expansion characteristics are still pretty decent on a light-framed animal like that.

I have a bunch of the tipped 120s here, but have yet to try them. Not sure how much more they will expand.....

That 120TTSX youth load worked well again yesterday at 90yds. Lung entrance, shoulder exit on the offside, 30yd run with good blood. Didn't spray as much as a rib exit would, but bled a lot considering where the exit was located.

2MG -

Our archery season recently started and ML season begins this Sat and temp of @ 85* so I don't deer hunt in hot WX.

We have long modern gun seasons and I PLAN to participate. I have several pics of internal damage but none of entrance/exit hole that you could tell anything about.

Hope to enter pics later.

Jerry

I took this small buck at 385yds with my 6.5 Grendel, 123gr SST @ 2550 FPS. I didn't get any pics of the outsides, but entrance was barely noticeable while the exit was about the size of a golf ball. Buck ran about 20yds and fell over dead.

Entrance on the left and exit on the right. Got both lungs.


Seems like people have mixed emotions about the SST bullets. They have always performed well for me. Like others stated, take a good shot if at all possible.

Well it's been a month since my last post BUT yesterday I kilt thisun.


As you can tell I shot him in the withers. He collapsed. This was the first pic and I had not moved him at all.

This 2nd pic I had turned him over. You can't see an exit and I thot the bullet stayed inside. That surprised me but when I skinned him the bullet had angled down and EXITED hi in the ribs. When I turned him over the hide slipped (or the body rolled inside it) and I couldn't see or feel an exit hole.



When I dressed him I didn't think about this thread so I didn't take any pics of the exit. I do the 'gutless' method so I didn't empty the chest cavity. I could've taken a pic of the exit in the ribs but I didn't think about it. The exit hole in the ribs was about 1" in dia.
---I'll do better next time, sorry.

I have 5 weeks of season and I expect to 'harvest' (kill) a few more so I'll remember.

Jerry

Jwall, nice buck.. What caliber is that slide action Remington??? I always swore if I continued to hunt the east coast I would have one of those,but that is not going to happen.. Cool rifle.. Caliber and load? NICE buck congrats!!!!

WCH -

Thnx man I really like them too. This 1 is a 30-06 and I have 1 in 270w and 1 in 6mm Rem. I had another in 270 but my youngest Son claimed it with my permission. (you know how that goes <grin>)

I'm shooting Horn 165 BTSP over H 205 @ 2925 fps. It's my last can of 205, so I'll be going to H 4350. I've used that combo in the past but this is the first time I've hunted any 06 in a long time. Kind of a nostalgia trip.

There are more pics in 2016 Pump Rifle Kills thread

Thnx Again
Jerry

I posted in another thread about my neighbor killing a deer with the lower jaw broke, Sat. evening. I had killed a deer that morning and did not go hunting in the afternoon, and He called me to come help Him find his deer. In the past I tried to keep a tracking dog, but currently had none. I did take the house dog with me to pick up my deer that morning, so I grabbed Her, and the neighbors Lab was there, and followed along. We went down to where the deer was, when He shot it, and He showed me a piece of meat, but there was no blood. I started looking at a good deer trail close by, entering a thicket, and the little house dog was smelling around and went down the trail sniffing along. Any place that she seemed interested in, I looked hard, but found no blood. In a minute or two, the lab came by me, in a hurry, and on down the trail, followed by the little dog, and out of sight. I kept looking down the trail, still finding no blood. My neighbor came to where I was, and we were talking about not finding any blood, when the dogs started raising hell, the opposite direction from the one that we were going. We went back to the ATV's and rode over to another patch of woods and started in to the dogs, when they came to meet me. I petted them and started back the way they came, and they went right back to the dead deer. He had hit in the top part of the near shoulder, and the bullet exited behind the far shoulder. When dressing it, the bullet had hit the top part of the lung, clipped the spine doing little damage, just a mark there. Blood stayed in the deer for a long ways. We never found any except where the deer was laying, but looking inside it was hard to imagine that deer going more than a few feet, and it was nearly a quarter of a mile as the crow flies. Not knowing the route, but I figure it went well over a quarter by trails. 240 Weatherby and Barnes bullet, complete pass through, broke shoulder on near side, broke ribs on the far side. I doubt that we would have found it without those dogs. Strange things happen while deer hunting. miles

Very nice Jerry. Chalk one up for the old pump gun.

Our rifle season starts tomorrow morning. I will be using the traditional 450 Bushmaster with 250 grain FTX. Can't wait. 😄😎

Weird $hit does happen. But there is always a valid explanation for it. Too often folks want to blame the cartridge or the bullet. When in fact, it is where they placed the bullet.

Glad you found it Miles....

October 1, I christened my new 6.5 Swede. The 142gr NLRAB dropped my axis doe in her tracks @ 109 yards.

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On October 30, I christened my 264 WM using the same bullet on an elk @ 137 yards. Complete pass through of both shoulders.

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Exit:




Follow-up shot nicked a twig and entered the right ham and ended up in the left shoulder. Here's what was left (59.9 gr)



Not bad for going through about 5 feet of elk and the pelvis!

Yeah, just a half inch higher and it would have broke the spine and it would have been DRT. Just a little lower and lots of blood to follow. Glad some untested dogs did their job. miles

Dogs are a nice luxury to have....

Bear with me. Photobucket and iPads aren't the happiest together.

100gr NBT from M7 260 @ 3150fps.



Onside shoulder at 30 yards.



Shoulder



Entrance hole



Recovered offside shoulder.

120 Amax at 30 yards onside shoulder. M700 260 Rem @ 2900fps



Bullet zippered her open.



Shoulder separated from rib cage. Nasty.

Shot at about 220 yards. Exit side. 6.8SPC II 85gr e-tips. 2850-2900fps. Nothing big and destructive on the meat. Perfect in my book.




Entrance side at 20'yards. Horrible performance from 120 Cor-Lokt from 260 Rem at 2900fps. I wish to never relive it. Nothing hit the offside ribs.

62gr TSX at 202 yards. In and out and left a blood trail. Went 40 yards. Very easy on the meat.



308 165 Hot Cor @ 2650fps at 178 yards. Went in and out. 32 yards after hit and excellent blood trail.



Exit hole



Lungs

Very Nice, send me a buck like that.

Jerry

That's SUPER nice. Love the hole in the horn.

'Some' of the meat destruction looks nasty. I'm surprised at the 129 Core Lok, however I've not shot those.

I have used 100 gr 6mm and 130 gr 277s and they've all done well.
Thnx for the pics.

Jerry

The pic makes him look bigger than he was. Body wise he wasn't a lot bigger than the doe I shot with the 62gr TSX. He is pretty delicious though.

Don't tell anyone. grin

Antlers look good.

The 120s worked great out of my M7 260. I killed 2 very large doe and an 8pt buck with excellent performance. I'm thinking the 8" twist on the Ruger made them come unglued and not penetrate very well. My first shot was at 180yards in the shoulder. I found him bedded down just in side the tree line and put another 4 in the ribs where the blood is in the pic. Yep, he got up and tried to run off. Maybe he was one of those armor plated bucks I hear about.

He actually had holes on each side of his rack.

Any idea how he got 2 holes ?
Curious, interesting.

No idea. Some people think worms others think stick poked them when forming. Maybe someone on this board would have an idea? I don't believe half the crap I'm told around my area. Too many old wives tales, especially when it comes to deer hunting.

I also think you're on to something about twist rate and faster revs of the bullet. Sometimes you CAN get too much of a good thing.

Jerry

Bud light...hell ya.
Nice work on the buck.

I read that the holes are formed by botfly larvae. I believe it's just a theory and they really don't know what causes it.

Lot of dead deer!

That one was killed 11/12 and discussed on P 8.


This one was killed on 12/14


I named him Freak ! in October the last time I saw him.




If you look at the middle pic, I shot him in the withers and the spine BLEW UP and the bullet angled down into the boiler room with no exit.


Well today's pic needs NO explanation.
270 W - 130 gr RCL - IMR 7828



ALL 3 were Bang FLop Or DRT = Dropped Right There
I got over blood trailing a long time ago. Especially in the rain like it was today. Rain does BAD things to blood trails.

I only have a few days left. So, we'll see.

Jerry

Keep shooting, it has been years since I shot more than a couple whitetails..

Thnx W C H

We have an Annual Bag limit of 6 WT. I hunt in a zone with only 5 as a limit BUT it's not far to another zone where the limit is 6.

2 bucks are the LIMIT Statewide.

I have 6 tags, my wife 6, my Uncle 6 so I have access to MORE than I ever want to process per yr.

I killed 5 in 2012 and 3 or 4 each yr since.

Jerry

Shortly after they came out I shot an antelope with a 100 gr. .257 bullet from a .257 Roberts. Performance was so poor I never used them
again in any caliber to hunt with. The few I have been given were shot at paper targets. Around the same time the solid base bullets were discontinued. Now the only time I use anything from Nosler it is a partition. It was a shame, I used to shoot a lot of Nosler bullets.

Jim

I have been hunting for over 5 decades and in all that time I have only taken 2 pictures of bullet wounds. Actually for most of my years, I didn't even own a camera.
But here are the 2 I have.

That's my fist in the 1st picture.
100 grain Remington .277 bullet from my 6.8SPC at 185 yards.

The other is a coyote I killed at 300 with the same little carbine with the same load.

Where U Been 2muchgun?

Last posted 12/12/16--Hope UR hunting or vacationing.



Yeah THE Tikka T 3 Lite SS 270 W I bought in 2003.
Shooting the same load other 270s like.
EVEN Tikka Rings ** thot I'd try them- I wasn't impressed 'looking' at them. Well....14 (fourteen) seasons later-- I guess I'm still trying them. (double shock)

I have thoroughly tested the T 3 out. It does everything I need and want a rifle to do EXCEPT look pretty.

Pretty is as pretty does.

Jerry

edit: sorry I forgot, the same Tikka bolt shroud.

185# rutting buck.
125 Nosler BT @ 2200 fps
No exit


29 GR retained



130gr .308 SP @3000+

7RM / Sierra 160 Gameking - 100 yards

.270 / 130 Nosler BT - 335 yards

100 grain Muzzy to the thinker

.270 / 130 TTSX - 150ish yard shoulder shot with zero bullet expansion. No blood trail but a very dead 8pt. I'm going to stick with Noslers.

100 grain Swhacker. Several deer with the same 4" exit hole. I know it ain't a bullet but dammit!!

Same here, exactly. The 100gr BT out of the Roberts shot so well I couldn't imagine it would be the bomb it was.

I just got a bunch of the 180gr .308" because of all the positive feedback on here. Have yet to start using them yet.

Here's the Link to my thread. I tried out the 100gr Aussie Copper Projectiles in my .257 Roberts. Shot was only about 45yds, quartering too.

There was a lot of internal damage, one exit, several spots that were bloodshot under the skin. I suspect the front of the bullet fragmented. This was the second deer with this combo, the first being a doe. She was hit in the spine in the withers blowing a hole out the top. no bullet recovered, lots of bone fragments.

I usually don't take photo's of holes but I maybe should start as it lends credence to opinions.

First photo is how he fell. The entry hole is on the front of the shoulder facing up. No blood.


This is the entry.




Exit wound in front of off side hind leg.(leg removed)

What's an Aussie Copper?

100gr. ACP Sidewinder at Grafs.

Assie Copper page.

Link in thread above goes to original mention of them, and a link to the page when they were introduced/offered for testing.

Thanks!

Mn. sausage buck, .270 win. 130ttsx @40 yards. DRT
going in:

going out;


some of the fat was over 1" thick, so much for the barnes "pencilin' through"

Well that certainly works! Still I will take that over the thin shelled variety of deer bullets.

I still haven't seen a thing that would make me abandon a Partition.

My nephew shot this 123lb doe at 170 yards. His rig of choice is a ruger American compact in 223. Shooting a 223 with the cheap hornady 55gr sp.
Around home a 223 won't kill a deer, so call it stunt shooting but he is super accurate with it as he has shot several hundred rounds through it.
Here's the results!!!!