Hi not sure where to put this - but what is everyone using to keep your sling in place ( on the shoulder) while packing ?
I was sure someone on 24hourcampfire posted a diy option sometime back as well and had used a plastic base plate and rubber stopper arrangement ?
I'd like to stop my sling sliding off my shoulder constantly .

Cheers.

FB

Ted Thorn and I each made our own versions of a sling keeper unbeknownst to each other. There were a couple threads on these at the backpack hunting forum last winter. Basically, I'd tried the Dark Mountain "Slingsaver", and found it essentially worthless as its wrap-around strap rubbed into my shoulder making it raw... I chucked it in the trash and built my own.

Here's the link for more:

https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbth..._Pack_Rifle_Sling_Keeper...#Post11081646

Or you can do what hunters have been doing since the beginning of time: sew a large button onto the top of the garment at the outer limit of your shoulder. The button will prevent the rifle sling from slipping off your shoulder.

Or you can use the sternum strap on your pack.

KC

Thanks KC Hadn't thought of that.

I do this at times when climbing steep stuff, but it still doesn't work as well as in conjunction wth a keeper on the shoulder strap... BTDT

Thanks guys - sorry meant to say using with a pack - I was about to order the Slingsaver and wondered about the strap.

I'm guessing by using the sternum strap - simply run it through the sling ?

Thanks for the link Brad - these were the ones I saw if I remember correctly. I'll post one up if I make one.

Cheers

FB

Seems to me the judicious use of some Velcro strapping would do the trick.

I'd love to hear all about a "velcro" keeper... enlighten us please.

I hook my sling over my Cabelas frame, to relieve my shoulder somewhat.

Velcro strapping could be used in various ways.

1. Attach a piece to the top of the pack strap. Attach a mating piece to the rifle strap, either underneath or at the inside edge.

2. Put a loop on the pack strap, attached at the center of the strap. Shoulder the rifle and connect the loop.

No matter the method, attachment and detachment of the rifle should be very quick. Haven't ever tried it with a rifle but have used a lot of Velcro to hold things in place where frequent detachment is required.

I've found velcro to be kinda noisy.

Sounds like you and Rube Goldberg should team up.

Yeah, nothing like that obnoxious ripping sound when you're peeling your gun off your shoulder to catch that big bull unaware... good grief.

Holy fu ck, doesn't anyone carry their damn rifle in their hands anymore? Rifle has to be 6 pounds now days and you won't even pack the mother fu cker the way they were meant to be packed. For fu cks sake.....

What works well and is cheap and good still works well and is cheap and good.

So, you've done it with velcro?

I do lawrence always got to be ready to shoot.. I also don't run around with a round in the chamber either even though Winchester makes one of the best safeties on the market!

Lighten up Francis. There's lots of times when you don't want your rifle in your hands. Like climbing a steep slope in the dark before shooting hours. Or packing a load of meat out, with your tag punched.

Try a "damn rifle" in your hands with this 85lb load on a 45* slope in spruce blow-down hell... I know because I did it yesterday unlike someone on the internet running their mouth on a subject they have no experience with...

Yesterday's:



Last year's:



The year before:



The year before that:

Nice horns Brad!

You tell 'em.

Nothing says hard core like this pic.....LMAO.

Very nice.

Smoke, thanks.

I gave Ted's "Sling Stud" a thorough workout. It was great. I like it as well as my own design, and I think his "Franken Stud" (which is wider than the one I used) would be better than both.

When humping a normal 50lb pack on normal terrain, the keeper holds it in place nicely. When negotiating really steep terrain, tucking the sling under the sternum strap in addition to the keeper (sling stud) is the way to go. When the load gets ridiculous and the terrain even worse, that's the ONLY way to go.

Does Ted sell those things?

Well, I've encouraged him to do so. I think his is a terrific design.

Here's his (the new version is wider):



Mine:

Zing

Hell, I didn't even know BSA hunted.

Brad-

Well done man - another good one!

Way to go Brad! Another solo .308 Win. bull goes home. I hope you are going to do a little write-up?

That's when I wish I had that contraption on my pack.. past weekend hauled a 85lb pack full of meat good and it sucked

Brad what pack do you use??

Ted is kind of a somofabitch when it comes to things

He gives them away to friends and family.

Sells them for cost to nice strangers.

Won't sell them for any price to some.

There are only a couple that are on the later list.....sorted out over members telling me "how it is" or "what I am/or not"

I dont have any landowner ML plains mule deer tags to give away....just machining skills

The 5th generation Frankenstud Slingamarig is simple, efficient and weighs very little

420 SS throughout or Aluminum with a SS screw



The St. Louis Cardinals have kicked the Cubs azz my entire life.....

I hope they win the world series this year....but savor the flavor

It wont happen again next year

Damn dude, you need a new model and you could sell the heck out of those things!!!

This years budget is pretty low for "models"

It don't matter, you need to fire that guy.

Yes, rifle in hands, bino's in the backpack. Just like all the "old timers" thought us.

I'm betting only a handful of guys will see the humor..You aint one of them.

Read my previous posts.

Could have used one of those this year. Where do I send coin, beer, scotch, or what ever the coin of the realm is?

even

It was a rhetorical question. Let me ask it a little more directly:

If you've never done it, how do you know that it works well?

I would rather have a colonoscopy.

Well, you are gettin' up there, it's about time, don't you think?

I've hooked mine over the little add-on hook on my meat hauler Cabela's Alaskan frame and am trying to do the same thing with the new pack from Wilderness Specialties, I'll probably end up making a bump out of electrical or duct tape for third season CO.

Even though I typically have a cow and bull tag and might need the rifle in a hurry, hauling out meat I'll usually use the pack feature that stores the rifle, an add-on scabbard in an Eberlestock X2 daypack for first load and a strap in rig on the Wilderness Specialties pack to keep it under the pack and retained.

This year's sling is a SVL with the handle to save your hand fatigue that adjusts up or down the strap to fit a different type of carry. For me walking a minimum of 3-4 hours hanging on to a sling the handle is nicer to hang on to.... but not as nice as having your hands free and using a walking/shooting stick to keep my tired old body upright.

True... since Coyote Hunter has backed me into the corner, I'd better get it scheduled.

Old Arcteryx Bora 80

Thanks I'm looking for another pack .

You really do have reading comprehension problems.

Nowhere have I said it works well. What I did say that Velcro has worked well in other applications where I've used it where frequent detachment was required.

As to Brad's comments about the noise, yeah, that could be a deterrent. Some "hook and loop" types are noisier than others and you can often minimize the noise by pulling them apart slowly. Over the years I've walked many more miles than not where a reliable method of keeping my rifle from slipping off my shoulder would have been much appreciated and the potential noise wouldn't have made any difference. Kind of like hunting empty chamber, which I do mostly, or not. There are times when the noise might matter, in which case you might want the rifle in your hands with the chamber loaded, not on your shoulder, and there are times when it wouldn't.

Suit yourself.

I bought one of these slings last year and have used it religiously since. Grips my shoulder really well and doesn't slip, even over my backpack straps. It solved the exact issue the OP described and was a 15 dollar solution.

http://www.butlercreek.com/products/mountain_slings.html

After shortening the "hook" the Slingsaver does work for some although Brad and Ted's homemade projects look to be much more refined.

A small piece of Gorilla duct tape eliminates the velcro issue on the Slingsaver if you have a chafing problem like Brad. The four guys I hunt with all use Slingsavers for rifles and a crossbow without issue.

Since I started using one of the rubber slings (Slogan Outdoors) I haven't needed any type of sling retainer.

My product might be many things

"Home Made" it is not

Sorry, my bad.

I had not gone back to your original thread.

If I send appropriate compensation, could it be in the mail headed west?

Nice try sport. My reading comprehension is just fine, it's your writing skills that suck. I quoted you accurately; you said nothing about "other applications where you've used it" you just said what's above--"What works well and is cheap and good still works well and is cheap and good."

And once again, you're as FOS as a Christmas turkey.

You must do a lot of backpacking to be able to speak so authoritatively on the subject, and know what will work without trying it, huh?

CH's new favorite comeback is the "reading comprehension" line.

Big words make him feel smart.

In other news, his Velcro method would work fine for road hunting or farming out to cousin-in-laws-daughters-uncle #82

You quoted me accurately but lost the context because your reading comprehension skills suck big time.

In context and in my post to which Brad responded, I specifically stated " Haven't ever tried it with a rifle but have used a lot of Velcro to hold things in place where frequent detachment is required."

Brad's comment was that I should team up with Rube Goldberg. My comment "What works well and is cheap and good still works well and is cheap and good." was in response to Brad's Rube Goldberg comment and essentially meant that a design should be based on its actual merits.

By the way, Rube Goldberg had an engineering degree from U.C. Berkeley.



As to your question " If you've never done it, how do you know that it works well?", nowhere have I stated I KNOW it will work well. Instead I BELIEVE it will work well, based on experience using Velcro and other hook-and-loop fasteners in a lot of other applications and some common sense, something you appear to lack.

Whatever you say CH. Coming from such an experienced backpacker, your word carries some weight.

Was Rube Goldberg a backpack Hunter too?

That does look like it would work well. I've been using an "L" shaped bracket off an old Janssen's pack, which is simple and works good.

Aaron Neilson did me a favor back in 2014 on my first Colorado mule deer

I gave him a SS Frankenstud G4

Pat Sinclair did me a favor on an elk scoring problem in 2015

I gave him a SS Frankenstud G4

They both reported that they liked them

Only you could come away with that as a conclusion...

Goldberg.....wasn't he the guy who pioneered the blaze orange scent-loc yarmulke?

Fallowbuff, I have been using a Sling Saver rifle strap holder for several years now and they work great. I have them on several packs. Here is the link: http://slingsaver.net/index.html

If you are doing a lot of climbing, you may want consider using something to secure the butt end of your rifle as well. I recently started using a Gun Commander setup I've had several backpack rifle holders, including the Kifaru Gun Bearer and the Gun Commander kit has worked best for me. But, the Sling Saver works well for most hunting situations.

LMAO!!!

Have to admit I laughed, too.