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Well, you are gettin' up there, it's about time, don't you think?
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I've hooked mine over the little add-on hook on my meat hauler Cabela's Alaskan frame and am trying to do the same thing with the new pack from Wilderness Specialties, I'll probably end up making a bump out of electrical or duct tape for third season CO.
Even though I typically have a cow and bull tag and might need the rifle in a hurry, hauling out meat I'll usually use the pack feature that stores the rifle, an add-on scabbard in an Eberlestock X2 daypack for first load and a strap in rig on the Wilderness Specialties pack to keep it under the pack and retained.
This year's sling is a SVL with the handle to save your hand fatigue that adjusts up or down the strap to fit a different type of carry. For me walking a minimum of 3-4 hours hanging on to a sling the handle is nicer to hang on to.... but not as nice as having your hands free and using a walking/shooting stick to keep my tired old body upright.
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Well, you are gettin' up there, it's about time, don't you think? True... since Coyote Hunter has backed me into the corner, I'd better get it scheduled.
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Brad what pack do you use??
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Brad what pack do you use??
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Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego. Suckin' on my titties like you wanted me.
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even What works well and is cheap and good still works well and is cheap and good. So, you've done it with velcro? Read my previous posts. It was a rhetorical question. Let me ask it a little more directly: If you've never done it, how do you know that it works well? You really do have reading comprehension problems. Nowhere have I said it works well. What I did say that Velcro has worked well in other applications where I've used it where frequent detachment was required. As to Brad's comments about the noise, yeah, that could be a deterrent. Some "hook and loop" types are noisier than others and you can often minimize the noise by pulling them apart slowly. Over the years I've walked many more miles than not where a reliable method of keeping my rifle from slipping off my shoulder would have been much appreciated and the potential noise wouldn't have made any difference. Kind of like hunting empty chamber, which I do mostly, or not. There are times when the noise might matter, in which case you might want the rifle in your hands with the chamber loaded, not on your shoulder, and there are times when it wouldn't.
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I would rather have a colonoscopy. Suit yourself.
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No, I'm not a Ruger bigot - just an unabashed fan of their revolvers, M77's and #1's.
A good .30-06 is a 99% solution.
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I bought one of these slings last year and have used it religiously since. Grips my shoulder really well and doesn't slip, even over my backpack straps. It solved the exact issue the OP described and was a 15 dollar solution. http://www.butlercreek.com/products/mountain_slings.html
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Ted Thorn and I each made our own versions of a sling keeper unbeknownst to each other. There were a couple threads on these at the backpack hunting forum last winter. Basically, I'd tried the Dark Mountain "Slingsaver", and found it essentially worthless as its wrap-around strap rubbed into my shoulder making it raw... I chucked it in the trash and built my own. Here's the link for more: https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbth..._Pack_Rifle_Sling_Keeper...#Post11081646 After shortening the "hook" the Slingsaver does work for some although Brad and Ted's homemade projects look to be much more refined. A small piece of Gorilla duct tape eliminates the velcro issue on the Slingsaver if you have a chafing problem like Brad. The four guys I hunt with all use Slingsavers for rifles and a crossbow without issue. Since I started using one of the rubber slings (Slogan Outdoors) I haven't needed any type of sling retainer.
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My product might be many things
"Home Made" it is not
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My product might be many things
"Home Made" it is not Sorry, my bad. I had not gone back to your original thread.
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My product might be many things
"Home Made" it is not If I send appropriate compensation, could it be in the mail headed west?
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even What works well and is cheap and good still works well and is cheap and good. So, you've done it with velcro? Read my previous posts. It was a rhetorical question. Let me ask it a little more directly: If you've never done it, how do you know that it works well? You really do have reading comprehension problems. Nowhere have I said it works well. What I did say that Velcro has worked well in other applications where I've used it where frequent detachment was required. Nice try sport. My reading comprehension is just fine, it's your writing skills that suck. I quoted you accurately; you said nothing about "other applications where you've used it" you just said what's above--"What works well and is cheap and good still works well and is cheap and good." And once again, you're as FOS as a Christmas turkey. You must do a lot of backpacking to be able to speak so authoritatively on the subject, and know what will work without trying it, huh?
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CH's new favorite comeback is the "reading comprehension" line.
Big words make him feel smart.
In other news, his Velcro method would work fine for road hunting or farming out to cousin-in-laws-daughters-uncle #82
I probably hit more elk with a pickup than you have with a rifle. I have yet to see anyone claim Leupold has never had to fix an optic. I know I have sent a few back. 2 MK 6s, a VX-6, and 3 VX-111s.
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Nice try sport. My reading comprehension is just fine, it's your writing skills that suck. I quoted you accurately; you said nothing about "other applications where you've used it" you just said what's above--"What works well and is cheap and good still works well and is cheap and good."
And once again, you're as FOS as a Christmas turkey.
You must do a lot of backpacking to be able to speak so authoritatively on the subject, and know what will work without trying it, huh? You quoted me accurately but lost the context because your reading comprehension skills suck big time. In context and in my post to which Brad responded, I specifically stated " Haven't ever tried it with a rifle but have used a lot of Velcro to hold things in place where frequent detachment is required." Brad's comment was that I should team up with Rube Goldberg. My comment "What works well and is cheap and good still works well and is cheap and good." was in response to Brad's Rube Goldberg comment and essentially meant that a design should be based on its actual merits. By the way, Rube Goldberg had an engineering degree from U.C. Berkeley. As to your question " If you've never done it, how do you know that it works well?", nowhere have I stated I KNOW it will work well. Instead I BELIEVE it will work well, based on experience using Velcro and other hook-and-loop fasteners in a lot of other applications and some common sense, something you appear to lack.
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No, I'm not a Ruger bigot - just an unabashed fan of their revolvers, M77's and #1's.
A good .30-06 is a 99% solution.
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Whatever you say CH. Coming from such an experienced backpacker, your word carries some weight.
Was Rube Goldberg a backpack Hunter too?
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Does Ted sell those things? Ted is kind of a somofabitch when it comes to things He gives them away to friends and family. Sells them for cost to nice strangers. Won't sell them for any price to some. There are only a couple that are on the later list.....sorted out over members telling me "how it is" or "what I am/or not" I dont have any landowner ML plains mule deer tags to give away....just machining skills The 5th generation Frankenstud Slingamarig is simple, efficient and weighs very little 420 SS throughout or Aluminum with a SS screw The St. Louis Cardinals have kicked the Cubs azz my entire life..... I hope they win the world series this year....but savor the flavor It wont happen again next year That does look like it would work well. I've been using an "L" shaped bracket off an old Janssen's pack, which is simple and works good.
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Aaron Neilson did me a favor back in 2014 on my first Colorado mule deer
I gave him a SS Frankenstud G4
Pat Sinclair did me a favor on an elk scoring problem in 2015
I gave him a SS Frankenstud G4
They both reported that they liked them
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By the way, Rube Goldberg had an engineering degree from U.C. Berkeley.
Only you could come away with that as a conclusion...
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Goldberg.....wasn't he the guy who pioneered the blaze orange scent-loc yarmulke?
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