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Is there such a thing as a good out of the box single shot?? I don't understand why people would pop hundreds of dollars on a single shot and then have to mess around with the hinge, the fore stock, the triggers....

Is there even one good single shot on the market...one where you get what you pay for?????
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Yes. Blaser K95. Trust me, you won't have to do anything to it but load and fire it. Absolute superb accuracy. You didn't say "CHEAP good out of the box single shot".
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Is there such a thing as a good out of the box single shot?? I don't understand why people would pop hundreds of dollars on a single shot and then have to mess around with the hinge, the fore stock, the triggers....

Is there even one good single shot on the market...one where you get what you pay for????


Nope. In fact I've been asking all of my friends to support H.B. 132-1 which bans the manufacture of all guns without a magazine because there's never been a documented case of a good one being made.
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Is there such a thing as a good out of the box single shot?? I don't understand why people would pop hundreds of dollars on a single shot and then have to mess around with the hinge, the fore stock, the triggers....

Is there even one good single shot on the market...one where you get what you pay for????


Nope. In fact I've been asking all of my friends to support H.B. 132-1 which bans the manufacture of all guns without a magazine because there's never been a documented case of a good one being made.


I think your pulling my leg.....
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Yes. Blaser K95. Trust me, you won't have to do anything to it but load and fire it. Absolute superb accuracy. You didn't say "CHEAP good out of the box single shot".


I see what you mean...looks like they start around 5K...
got to agree with rj308. my k95 is a nice accurate light rifle. surely not cheap though. I can't really comment though as a sample of one means nothing.
Street prices on K95's are much less. When one considers the switch barrel capability and the crazy accuracy the K95 brings to the party, they become much more affordable.
I paid $2,400 for a Prestige in 243 Winchester.
Originally Posted by CanuckShooter
Is there such a thing as a good out of the box single shot?? I don't understand why people would pop hundreds of dollars on a single shot and then have to mess around with the hinge, the fore stock, the triggers....

Is there even one good single shot on the market...one where you get what you pay for?????

Probably not - guess I just got lucky...

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Winchester 1885 1n 22-250 for less than $1000.

Tack
My No. 1 22-250, the No. 1 30-06 & my No. 1 25-06.
Oh, my Merkel also.

Much better than any of my other rifles.
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Winchester 1885 1n 22-250 for less than $1000.

Tack


Those look interesting also....1885 how do they shoot? Do you have any pics?

Seen a few people mentioning Merkel...anyone have experience with these firearms??
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Originally Posted by CanuckShooter
Is there such a thing as a good out of the box single shot?? I don't understand why people would pop hundreds of dollars on a single shot and then have to mess around with the hinge, the fore stock, the triggers....

Is there even one good single shot on the market...one where you get what you pay for?????

Probably not - guess I just got lucky...

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And that was straight out of the box?? No trigger work, no messing with the forearm...replacing the hinges...honestly?? Straight out of the box?
I have owned at least 7 Rugers that would no better than 1MOA without any work on them, and several Browning single shots as well.
I bought a Ruger 1B in 7 Mag with a target that came 4 different boxes of factory ammo .
Every box had two cartridges out of it that were fired at the target and each bullet weight was almost touching the match to it inside a 2" group.
That's pretty danged accurate considering the bullets ranged from 140 to 175 grains!
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Originally Posted by CanuckShooter
Is there such a thing as a good out of the box single shot?? I don't understand why people would pop hundreds of dollars on a single shot and then have to mess around with the hinge, the fore stock, the triggers....

Is there even one good single shot on the market...one where you get what you pay for?????

Probably not - guess I just got lucky...

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Originally Posted by CanuckShooter
And that was straight out of the box?? No trigger work, no messing with the forearm...replacing the hinges...honestly?? Straight out of the box?


Yes sir - absolutely honest straight out of the box. Other 100 yard load work work has been similar (almost boring, but in a good way smile ):

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And in being totally honest, I do have four other No. 1's that have had no tweaking done to them and don't shoot this well. I do believe this 375 is an exception to the norm, but I do manage 1 to 1-1/4 MOA with the others with some load work.
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I think your pulling my leg.....


Funny. Your original questions were so heavily loaded I assumed you were pulling our legs grin.

Single shots come in everything from 22lr Crickets to full blown benchrest rigs so there's probably something out there that'll fit the bill. Which guns are you shooting now that are perfection out of the box? Knowing that could help with some ideas of which single shooters you might like.

Originally Posted by CanuckShooter
Is there such a thing as a good out of the box single shot?? I don't understand why people would pop hundreds of dollars on a single shot and then have to mess around with the hinge, the fore stock, the triggers....

Is there even one good single shot on the market...one where you get what you pay for?????


I got this 44mag Handi for 200 bucks and change, including the Weaver Classic 4x scope.

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I basically just took the load I use in my SuperBlackhawk, went to the range 5-6 times, and then got two deer this season with it.

It shoots 1.5-2" at 100 with both of the bullets I use (240 XTP to hunt and 240 bulk JSP for practice) and has the same POI with both, which is nice. The trigger isn't bad at all, and it is really handy in a climbing stand or stalking through the thick stuff.

I guess it all depends on what "good" is for you, eh?

Originally Posted by Mar336
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I think your pulling my leg.....


Funny. Your original questions were so heavily loaded I assumed you were pulling our legs grin.

Single shots come in everything from 22lr Crickets to full blown benchrest rigs so there's probably something out there that'll fit the bill. Which guns are you shooting now that are perfection out of the box? Knowing that could help with some ideas of which single shooters you might like.


I'm looking for honest feedback on a single shooter experience...have been reading about various singles for quite a while now and it is a little disconcerting to keep reading about all the 'tricks' to get them to shoot good. I don't see the smarts in buying a $2000 rifle, and then having to buy a timney trigger, a new hinge pin..etc etc etc. to get decent accuracy out of it. So I ask the questions. ;-)

I know that I'll have one eventually, something not too heavy...something maybe a little pretty...the ability to change barrels might be nice otherwise something in a decent all around cal. 270 maybe...30-06 maybe....7mm maybe...lots of choices.

Maybe I should just get one of those $200 HR ones in 243 or 6.5 and see how I like hunting with a single shot before I spend a bunch of coin on one???
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Originally Posted by CanuckShooter
Is there such a thing as a good out of the box single shot?? I don't understand why people would pop hundreds of dollars on a single shot and then have to mess around with the hinge, the fore stock, the triggers....

Is there even one good single shot on the market...one where you get what you pay for?????


I got this 44mag Handi for 200 bucks and change, including the Weaver Classic 4x scope.

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I basically just took the load I use in my SuperBlackhawk, went to the range 5-6 times, and then got two deer this season with it.

It shoots 1.5-2" at 100 with both of the bullets I use (240 XTP to hunt and 240 bulk JSP for practice) and has the same POI with both, which is nice. The trigger isn't bad at all, and it is really handy in a climbing stand or stalking through the thick stuff.

I guess it all depends on what "good" is for you, eh?



That one is cute...don't know if it would be legal where I live, I believe we need an 18" min barrel length. You cannot go wrong with the price you paid though.
I have 2 handi rifle frames and 4 barrels. 2 barrels took no tweaking, fooling or whatever. 2 barrels had some minor case sticking problems that a little work cleared up. These are the older ejector barrels, not the newer extractor barrels.

I really like the Handis.

My contender carbine, all six barrels just load em and shoot, not fussy with loads (I don't lean on them to the max) My most accurate rifle I own in the .223 and 17 HMR, and 22 mag barrels.

Stock hinge pin and factory barrels, (the 22 mag is a factory custom 24")
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That one is cute...don't know if it would be legal where I live, I believe we need an 18" min barrel length. You cannot go wrong with the price you paid though.


Yeah, it is really handy (pun intended) to carry. Mild recoil with stout 44mag loads too.

I am going to take the scope off and see how I like the irons that came with it, as that would make it even handier.
While my experience with No. 1's is far more limited than some, I really think the whole notion of them "not shooting" is way overblown.

I've had 2 stainless/laminate #1's. One in 7mm STW was very accurate, honest 1/2" with hand loads. I foolishly swapped it for it's twin in 7mm Rem mag with my cousin when I temporarily got out of hand loading for a time. He immediately bedded the forearm, etc because that's what you have to do to get them to "shoot."

The 7mm r.m. shot about an inch or so with cheap factory ammo, which despite what you read on the interweb, is plenty good enough for hunting, and I took deer out to 400 yds.

Out of boredom I traded off the 7mag for a Rem 700 in 257 wby. It shot fine (about like the #1's), but after hunting with it for one season, I went back to a #1. To me, when you get used to them, nothing else feels right.

I now have another ss/lam in 300 win mag, but I haven't shot it yet, so maybe it will shoot patterns instead of groups (but I doubt it).

IMO, If you want something to shoot .0000001 groups on paper from a benchrest, get something else, but if you want an accurate rifle that is a pleasure to hunt with, get a #1.



Out of the box, I've had great luck with my CVA Scout 44 mag. for firearm deer, here in Indiana.


maddog
Straight out of the box, my H&R ultra varmiter, in .223, after sight in, will shoot a 5/8" 3 shoot group at 100 yds, all day. So far this year my wife has shot 2 bucks, 80 and 120 yds., both head shots.---However, wish I could say the same about my Handi, .45-70 tho. Shoots well, but deffinantly needs a trigger job!
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For best results, a K-95 would be my pick, followed by the Merkel K-1 and K-3 rifles. Here's a custom I had done by Luxus Arms, with barrels in 260 and 280 Remington. Haven't shot it yet, but they're usually quite impressive.

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What you are describing in your specs is a Merkel or Blaser single shot. Find a used one and buy it. You won't be sorry. RJ
Any of the black pad Rugers should be a reliable shooter. May not be 1/2", but I expect it will do fine.

Every Miroku (aka Browning, Winchester 1885 & B78) High & Low Wall I've tried has been a fine shooter. Funky features sometimes, but usually excellent barrels.
I love my Luxus K95, for sure, but wish Blaser made a Prohunter stock for it.
If price is a concern, I've had really good luck with H&R Handi Rifles untweaked, right out of the box. Out of 4(2:45-70, 25-06, & 35 Whelen), two shot less than an inch with factory ammo, and two shot 1-1.25in. All had good triggers as well.

I thought I'd make an upgrade this past year, so bought an Encore frame and custom MGM bbl. The thing has been a headache from day 1. After alot of money and many mods, it's finally coming together, but I'd have been far better off buying a few more Handis for the same coin. It certainly looks better than the Handis, but I could care less about looks for certain tools. I'll get out one of my custom bolt guns when I want something fancy to look at....
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Ruger #1H in 405 Winchester. Out of box except I mounted a VX-II in 2-7x33 on it. Never touched the trigger, nor the bedding, just cleaned it and shot it. Nothing spectacular to look at, but she shoots nicely.

Above is a three shot group with Hornady 300 gr FP at 2450 fps from a makeshift rest at 100 yards -- good enough for the girls I go with. laugh

Here's the beast.

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Originally Posted by Biebs
For best results, a K-95 would be my pick, followed by the Merkel K-1 and K-3 rifles. Here's a custom I had done by Luxus Arms, with barrels in 260 and 280 Remington. Haven't shot it yet, but they're usually quite impressive.

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That is some flashy wood!! I'd sure like to try one of those out....see how it shoulders....your a lucky man.
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As requested, here is a couple.
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