For those of you who are not aware, Steve Redgwell, a member here, makes a 200 gr 303 bullet in several diameters up to .314" for loading 303 Br, 7.65X53 Mauser, 7.62X54R, etc.

He may not be too excited about me starting this thread, as he is pretty busy mowing ditches and refueling the mower with his grandson , but for those of us who have been lamenting the passing of the old Dominion 215 gr KKSP bullet made in Canada, here's a source of a very fine big game bullet made in our own back yard.

Especially for those with rifles that have bores that are on the big side, the .314 bullet has turned a few that I am aware of into very accurate rifles.

Hopefully Steve will chime in here with either an update on these fine bullets, or a request to shut down the thread.

Ted

Thanks for the kind words Ted, but I haven't made them in two years - except for personal use. There's been no demand.

Sometimes I think that the old 303 is going the way of the Do-Do.

Say it isn't so Steve. One I have has been a part of my life since I can remember, and I own 5.

I think reason will return once the present infatuation with super magnums abates. A heavy well constructed bullet at moderate velocity puts game in the pot.

A lot of the bullet failures we have seen are with cup and core ar hyper velocity. I have never had a bullet failure with 30/30, 45/70, or 303.

Randy

I'd like to think that you're right about the magnums.

Every year I must be using the wrong ammunition. Either that, or the animals are too stupid to know that they're falling over with wussy cartridges.

Perhaps I should change the name of these bullets to incorporate the word "magnum" on the box. Something like,

200 grain Bulbous Magnums
200 grain Exceedingly Magnums
200 grain Utterly Magnums
200 grain Hugely Magnums
200 grain Terminal Magnums

Terminal magnums may be the ticket. Most people hunt more on the computer terminal than they do in the field if they think a cartridge has to have much more than a 303 or 30-06.

I have a 338 winchester minimum. It used to be a magnum, then I grew up. It is now a 338-06 belted minimum.
Randy

some guys on another forum had a specail run of ruger #1 MADE IN 303 the 303 is still alive

Some guys here have shot them already!

Some guys here(me) are waiting on pins and needles for the delivery so they can shoot them. Some guys brothers are arranging a side by side comparison shoot with the no1H in 405 Win. That will be a fun afternoon.

|Randy

I think the animals fell over due to the shock of the bullet and the sticker price. Just kiddin' Steve....... :}

Well, I am about to again load a few more of these 200s for a couple of young fellows who will go afield this fall and slay moose and perhaps big bears, with them.

Loaded with Norma 204 and magnum primers, they will be loafing along at close to 2300 fps........... will keep you posted.

Ted

You guys just don't get it do you. Those flippen rifles are butt ugly and lifes too short to hunt with an ugly rifle.Nothing wrong with the down range balistics. The last time I saw one of them old rifles was in the bottom of my old mans grain truck behind the seat. I think it's still there, that was 35 years ago.LOL

Fixed it for you.....yer welcome.

Diehard 303 Enfield fans. Got to hand it to them for that.
You can get a heavy hitter and great scoped modern rifle and still be packing less weight with about 6 inch shorter.
I'm not talking dicks here. LOL Have a great day 303carbine.

Hawk is offering 215s in spitzer and round tips.


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Seven days!

Departure time is ...

6 days, 10 hours, 38 min, 6 sec.

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One of the guys at work got a big Alaska mooose,250#+ quarters,shooting a 270 with 160Partions. It took a number of well aimed shots. His take, a 303 with the 215s would have worked a lot better.

Maybe, maybe not.

Two yrs ago I shot a very small bull moose at 100yds with a 375 Chatfield-Taylor loaded with 260gr Nosler ABs. It took three well placed shots to put him down. There was no indication of impact at all with the first two well placed/broadside shots. I think it could have gone the same way with just about any reasonable cartridge incl the 270, 30/06 or 303 with heavy bullets

I don't think moose understand this ballistics thing we all debate on the interweb.

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Contrary to what many elk hunters think, a moose is never an easy kill. They absorb a lot of impact, and only a central nervous system hit is guarunteed to stop them where they stand. They will die with a frontal low chest shot, but not necessarily immediately.

My Dad used to say shoot tthem until they lay down. Not bad advice. Slow heavy bullets have always killed well, but then so have lighter 165+gr faster bullets. As always shot placement is what puts meat in the freezer.

Oh, by the way I am a 303 fan.

Randy

Ya know what I think, huh? 150 grain bullet!

I was waiting for that one. It was your shot though so not really my place to open the discussion. I have made some decent shots in my life but never got 2 with one shot like Dad the year he and Mom tagged out with one bullet.

Randy, your "little" brother

Hi: The 303 is great i have a couple but i also have .458,416 rigby and a few more but i hunt mostly with my 06 because it works not really better than the 303 but just works on everything.That said i will always have my 303's they are just plain fun and cheap to shoot. Dan

with the god-awful prices for woodleighs in canada and the bunch of Ruger#1 .303's kicking around (I have one) I think it's time you start making more bullets Steve

pretty please?

Seriously, Steve, I hope you will start making them again. You are the only source for the correct diameter bullets for surplus Lee Enfields.

Ted

Do I see a business opportunity in the making?

I bought some 215 Woodlieghs in Aus,they weren't that expensive,cheaper than Noslers are here.

About four years ago i was travelling with a WW2 303 number 4 mk2 with the flip up peep sight. I was looking for a place to shoot and decided to shoot at rocks in a field. ( I had checked carefully for buildings or farm animals in the area.) Lo and behold I was able to connect with rocks out to 400 yards consistently. My immediate thought was has there been any progress in rifles in the last 60 years because I have a bunch of scoped remingtons winchesters etc that I cant do much better with.

My 375 h&h puts moose down with one shot.

Cut, wrapped and partially frozen, no doubt.

I have to get me one of those 375 H&H then. I remember a moose that Dad shot in the head as it approached him. The impact traveled through the body and broke its hip. Oh hold it, that was a 303 British, what was he thinking!

Come on guys!
I have one of those high speed magnum, super velocity, handloaded to the gills, Barns brasser blazing, 300WSM, vicious kicking, Kimber stainless, 2.5lb triggered, lightweight rifles that puts them down with one shot!

I may have to wait a little while....
But it still works about as good as my Dad's old 300 Sav shooting 180 Rem Core Locks or Winchester whatevers!

Jim

Yeah I know a few fellas that even have flintlocks that could kill a moose too.

The Indians up in Armstrong shoot them with a 22 LR - though I don't recommend it. I know a guy that uses a 25/20.

The first one your little brother was in on, outside of family, was shot with a 22lr single shot cooey. The man shooting was a resident of Eagle River and 60 at the time. He impressed the tar out of me.

But have ya shot the 303 #1 yet? Shame on ya! Double dog shame on ya! Sitting at a compooter desk when ya shudda been shootin'.

Smarten up or I'm coming down there!

Well you are welcome to come down, and I did shoot today about 1" at 50 yds, but aquiring a site picture is difficult. I will try again tomorrow when I am rested. I may have to purchase a new scpe with 4" plus eye relief, or shoot it with the open sites. They line up very quickly for me.

VX-II Leupy in 2-7x33 will give you nearly 5 on the bottom end and just under 4 at the top end of magnification, and with the extension rings, you should be good to go. I think they can be had for mid $400's, and a great scope.

Dare I suggest a peek at the Nikon Omega RIFLE scope for the Rug1 & Rug3?
5in. eye relief!
Jim

Sounds good.

Not for me , thanks, mine is wearing express sights! :>)
Cat