Did you guys see the Stadt Hessen Law change. No muzzle loaders at all now.

What do you guys think of that?

If a 250grain slug isnt enough to kill a critter in europe then i don't know what is.

I figured they stop using muzzle loaders 150 years ago.

Same idiots in Hessen like in some other German states. The worst part is that mostly not politicians but the hunters/hunting organizations want to have the hunting laws changed like that. I left the LJV (Landesjagdverband=state hunting organization) Hessen about 2 years ago and did not join the one in the state where I live now. Alot of hunters live in their so-called traditions with Loden clothes, green hats and Drilling but they do not know anything about real hunting like a backpack hunt or bow hunting in BC. And they even know less about hunting and cleanly killing an animal with something else than their drilling. They do not have a clue about bowhunting, muzzle loading rifles, handguns or AR-style rifles. And they do not want to learn anything about it. So they are very happy and pleased when stuff like that gets banned.

More limitations are always sad.

I think what really made me a better marksman was practicing and hunting with a bow for a year.

It makes so little sense to me that I can't really comment on it other than as an ethnic group, there maybe more Germans in America that in Hess all together. As I recall a lot of Hessians fought here once upon a time! Lot of them just stayed on since it was wide open and the hunting pretty good.

What is their reasoning for that ban. When you have a muzzle loader that can generate the power level that exceeds several acceptable and traditional centerfire calibers, it doesn't make sense to me. Albeit I am an American and I am accustomed to these freedoms.

It's not about freedom or any good reason but as written above, it's people who can understand other way of doing or thinking than their own. They stay in their old vision of hunting, unable to open their mind to other people and who don't learn about life, hunt, tirearm, history and the rest..These guys exist every where in the world even in the US of A. In France most of our hunting organisation don't play the hunters game. They just act for themselves and their "power", like politicians they don't mind about the people who elected them. Power, strong or weak, corrupt.
In Europe i think hunters are more dangerous to hunters than the other foes and antis, greenies included.
Dom