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Scots - Irish is the civilized side of my lineage.
McKillips. Is that Irish, Scottish, or Scots - Irish?
A quick lesson would be helpful, as I haven't studied the nuances at all.

I recommended this book a couple of years ago. A great read. Yes James Webb was Secretary of the Navy. RZ.

I think National Lampoon published an excellent peice on the nature of various cultures or the world a few decades ago.....

Doubt you'll find it at the public library.....

Nice chapter on a group commonly referred to as Desert Irish......also known as Arabs....

Glad to be of service.
Get off yer ass and do something, laddie buck!

Hey! Leave my phookin clan out of this!!

I was more impressed by the Steel Bonnets than I was Webb's book. But by the end of the Steel Bonnets I figured out I could've just read the first five pages, any seven in the middle, and the last five and gleaned the same information. Those people (my people) were a bunch of murderous, thieving scum!

Webb's book is part history, but more personal reflection on his own genealogy. It has a shade of airy romanticism that's unnecessary, and his treatment of the civil war is just lost cause revisionism. Come to find out he's a democrat, so that makes sense.

I felt that the book was much more historical. His personal connection seems to be the common thread that would connect those from outside that culture to history and help them find their place in that story.

Being from that culture both the corporate and personal history resonated with me. I can see much of what he referenced in my dad’s family but know that it’s strong on both sides.

This thread, like many others, has descended to garbage.

I’m fighting. Every day I wake up, I’m fighting for

It helps if you are of Irish Catholic heritage and grew up in England when you visit Lowland Scotland in 2016 and see the ancestral roots of Redneck, in this case an apparently unsanctioned or unapproved car race of some kind, partly on road, partly off-road, no police or EMS apparent, roadside spectators not willing to talk much.





To move a bit further down the Redneck family tree, you can take the ferry to Ulster in time for marching season, angry Scots-Irish Orange Order parades marching through Republican Catholic neighborhoods under heavy police guards. Said parades marching in perfect cadence past hostile people ignoring it or cursing quietly.



We preach not ourselves but Christ Jesus the Lord. See this? This is a Scots-Irish Presbyterian Church, in Ulster. Switch out that Union Jack for a Star-Spangled Banner and you could transplant that church most anywhere into the American South and it would fit right in.



Most people are aware that fumbduck Irish in Boston were moronic enough to contribute funds to the IRA. Fewer people know that Ian Paisley, the Uber Prod of the 60’s, 70’s and 80’s, closely associated with the terrorist Ulster Protestant Volunteers, toured Protestant churches across the American South raising funds.

I’ve read Born Fighting and The Steel Bonnets. I agree that Steel Bonnets can be a tedious read. One thing that surprised me tho was the numbers that could be involved in those endless Border raids, sometimes more than 1,000 men. In these parts we would call those battles.

I do have tremendous admiration for the Scots-Irish, they made America what it is, or was. Much more so than Irish Catholics did. I suppose if I wanted to wax all historical I could point out, as an Irish Catholic, the Scots-Irish are among my traditional blood-enemies. On that score a Belfast Scots-Irish once asked me if I supported Glasgow Celtic (Catholic), or Glasgow Rangers (Protestant).

I told him I supported the Dallas Cowboys.

Thanks for the pics and perspective Birdwatcher!