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I disagree. These are orchestrated from outside the schools and made to appear in MSM as grassroots student movements.

Not that I don’t think most profs would condone this leftist crap….


Exactly.

Just as with 2020’s summer of love, there are dark agendas funding this stuff and making it appear to be something it isn’t.

Crash_Pad: Any suggestions on where the millions of Jews in the country of Israel should go to live? They now live on land designated to them by the UN and land they won by military victory.

Wherever you live is on stolen land.

I don’t want to infer something not implied, so what exactly do you mean?

True.

North American and Australia were "stolen" from the indigenous people by Europeans who settled there. Should those indigenous people demand that the ancestors of those original colonist go back to their historical homelands? And, even if they did so, what degree of compliance could they reasonably expect to see?

The political map of the World has changed multiple times over the course of history. Look at the Russian Empire in the 20th Century. It began as a monolithic Imperial Russia, morphed into the Soviet Union for 69 years, 1922 to 1991, and today a map of the land that constituted Imperial Russia in 1900 shows that it has been divided into several independent sovereign countries since the collapse of the Soviet Union.

Israel isn't perfect and the average Israeli probably feel the same way about the Palestinian Arabs and as the average Palestinian Arab feel about the Israelis. The British could have made a Solomon like judgement to arbitrarily divide the land in Palestine between the Jewish people and the Palestinian Arabs, but they didn't have the will to do so and even if they had, it is likely that neither side would ever be satisfied with the distribution of land.

I can't say that I feel sorry for the people of Gaza. They selected Hamas to represent them and there is widespread support for Hamas both in Gaza and in the areas governed by the Palestinian Authority. Don't forget that the Palestinian Authority has a Martyrs Fund that pays a stipend to the families of Palestinians who carry out attacks on Israelis, that is not the sort of thing that a group seeking peaceful coexistence with a neighbor does. Israel was clearly attacked on 10/07/23 and they have responded to that attack with overwhelming force, exactly as they should. The people of Gaza would get an immediate reprieve from that overwhelming force if Hamas would return the hostages who were taken during the attack on 10/07/23. That is a red line for the Israelis and they will almost certainly keep bombing, shelling, and killing Gazans until all of the hostages are return and/or accounted for. If Hamas won't return the hostages, the Israelis have no alternative but to turn Gaza into a wasteland and if Egypt won't allow Gazans to cross their common border to safe haven, they will be killed.

At least that's how I see it.

If you ever do realize your false assumptions have been carefully crafted over many years by all types of media, across the board, the truth will still be difficult to accept. Israel is evil. It has always depended on public ignorance and huge inflows of outside money to exist. It was founded on massacre and expulsion of the Palestinians along with the bribery of Harry Truman in 1948 by Samuel Untemeyer and other rich friends to acknowledge its statehood after the last big genocidal push.The UN, rightly or wrongly, declared a sliver of Palestine to be Israel. Today the entire country of Palestine is illegally occupied. It's rightful citizens have no rights and are cruelly isolated. They are mercilessly persecuted by vicious, racist, thugs that give Jews an awful name.

Even without knowing any of Israel's long sordid history, its illegal occupation of Palestine and brutalization of Palestinians over the past 75 years, the current horrific slaughter of 35,000 helpless civilians should shock and appal any decent person. Again , Zionist media distorts the reality to justify its subhuman savagery in the most disgusting terms. Genocide is a heinous war crime, normal people condemn.

I condemn genocide, but don't see the Israeli treatment of the Palestinian Arabs as genocide.

Hamas, the terrorist organization that the the people of Gaza chose to represent them, attacked Israel out of Gaza on 10/07/23 and by so doing have brought whatever punishment they receive upon themselves. If the Egyptians would let their fellow Muslims, non-combatants only, cross their shared border into Sinai, those people would be safe. Egypt has chosen not to do so, suggesting that they don't care how many Gazans are killed, 'cause they aren't going to risk going to war with Israel over the dead Gazans. Gazans are going to be killed, both combatants and non-combatant collateral damage, as long as Israeli hostages are held in Gaza and Hamas presents a clear and present danger to the State and people of Israel.

As least that's how I see it.

I believe that the British had, by their right of conquest, the power and authority to give the Jewish people a homeland in Palestine via the Balfour Declaration. Maybe they shouldn't have made that promise, but they did, and Israel is a fait de accompli that the Palestinian Arabs either accept and learn to live in peaceful coexistence with or they don't accept Israel and continue to live in a constant state of conflict. They have the power to make that choice and they have always chosen conflict over peace.

You and I are just going to disagree on this issue. I believe that I clearly stated my position and have cited the facts concerning the establishment of a Jewish homeland in Palestine by the British during and shortly after WW1. If the Ottoman Empire had wanted to give the Palestinian Arabs their own sovereign country, they could have done so when they controlled that area of the Middle East. They didn't do so and when the British took over control of that area of the Middle East they gave an unspecified portion of Palestine to the Jewish people for a homeland of their own.

The reason that Egypt and Jordan won’t accept the Gazan’s is because they stir chitt wherever they go. They are worthless mongrels who have tried to overthrow both the Egyptian gov’t and the Jordan monarchy. They are pulling the same garbage in Lebanon.

It’s also why no other Muslim nations will accept them. 75 years as “refugees” shows what worthless scum they are. They will do nothing to better their own conditions, despite billions in aid. Yet somehow they multiply like rats. If Israel is trying to genocide them, they’re doing a pizz-poor job of it. Gaza’s population has multiplied many times in 75 years.

Crash_Pad: Sir or Madam: There are over 7 million Jews in Israel. Where should they go, where would they go?

What should be done about all the stolen land on Earth? We were burned out centuries ago from our home in Scotland and ended up in America somehow on stolen land. What about you, do you live on land that was never stolen? Maybe you should right that wrong by deeding your place of residence to the descendants of whoever was displaced.

You might consider that most of the Israeli Jews were exiled from Israel long ago by the Romans who stole their land through military conquest. They came back and reconquered the place. To the victor goes the spoils (and the land).

As we used to say when we were kids "tough titty said the kitty".

Just for fun, check how many times Israel is mentioned in the Koran - 43 (thought I'd help you out).

And how many times Palestine is mentioned in the Koran - 0 (more help, though I believe CP is beyond help).

As far as those at Columbia University that have taken over a building. Cut the power so they can’t charge their phones, cut off the water so they can’t flush a toilet and keep them confined there until they get tired of the smell of their own schit.

I say pack them up and send them back to wherever they came from.

Who, the Zionists? Seems like the idea is catching on with all the dual passport class. Cruise ships are filling up fast. Funny, the protestors just want them to stop slaughtering helpless people. If they would just burn down City Hall and Police Stations instead like Antifa/ BLM nobody would mind, pay them damages and apologize. Now WWIII starting with Iran isn’t looking so rosy with missiles blowing holes in Israel’s most heavily defended installations. And the Arab street is chomping to rip their lungs out with bare hands. Good thing that pesky first and fourth amendment don’t apply in this case. Genocide is kosher.

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Be a good lesson in what communism is like.