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It started as a criminal case in the state of Oregon, but the feds want to use their near total immunity to excuse it.

Bicycles, pedestrians, et al were using roads prior to the creation of motor vehicles.

Go ahead and get out there with nothing between you and tons of fast moving steel with nothing between you and motor vehicles but your spandex. It's legal, but not smart. There are all sorts of sleepy, impaired, and distracted drivers out there.

The roads we have now that are the subject here are those built for motor vehicles.

Should be up on vehic manslaughter charges. 100%

Strop still sucks monkey balls

Wait, What?

So visiting the neighbor directly across the street here must involve hopping in the car and driving there to reduce the odds another cop will doddle along and kill someone they plow in to?

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Your example of dashing across a street or road isn't quite the same as using the streets and highways by the likes of slow moving bicycles, foot travel, or horses. But I was just pointing out that you are out there exposed to tons of fast moving steel, some of which is being piloted by unskilled or impaired drivers.

Personally I won't buy a vehicle unless it's rear wheel drive or 4WD with a stiff frame under it. I do at times walk across the highway in front of my house but that ain't the same as traveling for miles.

Take a look at Dr. McGuff's youtube video on the 12 black swans to avoid. He is an emergency room doctor with lots of experience in trying to patch up folks that make bad decisions.

Everything has risks.

Going off the extended exposure time being too much risk, none of the people living along those streets should ever work on or enjoy their yards in anyway because the DEA agent might do his thing and their death could result.

That's right it does. And I'm not criticizing yours because your perspective is different than mine....

She's deceased? What are they going to waste their time to charge her with, even if she was the master mind of the Great TRain Robbery?

I don't say lock him up, but I would support him facing involuntary , man slaughter...

And pics of this woman at her desk, looking like grandma doesn't prove a damn thing in this state. in my opinion.

There is an entire culture of these big riders that blow right thru stop signs all over the state, never stopping...

So IF she did stop, did she look both ways like we were taught in grade school, whether walking or riding a bike?

If there is witnesses to that, then so be it. But I see more people who never stop at stop signs on a bike.
I was a Cycling Merit Badge Counselor for Boy Scouts. I made damn sure each kid who got the merit badge KNEW that... or he didn't get the merit badge. Just because you see adults ignore common sense, doesn't mean you can.

Simple physics. You are 200 lbs, the bike weighs 50 pounds. The other vehicle is a car that weighs 4000 pounds and can move at a much higher rate of speed? What type of idiot is not going to yield to a car, whether they are right or wrong?

They put their own life on the line every time they blow thru a stop sign. Even in Hootervillle here, I've followed adults on bicycles here, that go thru town on a main drag, and never even slow down at any of them and blow thru a dozen or more?

Is their stupidity, society's fault or their own. Wake up and get real people.


If she did stop, and the cop hit her, then her loss is a tragedy. If she contributed to the problem, its not an instance society failed.

Okay, skip a DEA agent. I see 80 and 90 year old people go thru town, that I am following that never stop at one stop sign either. Probably too blind to see it....

If it wasn't a DEA agent, but a blind 90 year old Grandma, wouldn't you feel a whole hell of a lot better about all of this?

Your perspective is retarded and you apparently can’t read. She was some poor woman who happened to be bicycling in her own neighborhood when this retard DEA agent ran a stop sign and killed her.

We should probably alert her family so that they can file a suit against you for defamation.

Yeah, but using common sense goes a lot way, in you not getting hitting by a moving vehicle, whether it was in the right or in the wrong... its not societies fault, for people's stupidity or assumptions.

Its common enough here that cyclists, just blow right thru stop signs. If I am at a stop sign, anywhere in the state, If I see a cyclist approach the intersection I don't assume they are going to stop at all. More often, I am right instead of wrong. I wait until they have cleared the intersection. Even if I got there first and have right of way, I wave them on thru any way.

Over the years, I've never hit someone on a bike at an intersection, but I've been hit by several cyclists who ran a stop sign, at a high rate of speed.. and then they jump up and start yelling at me..... I've had this conversation a lot more than once with some of these idiotic clowns.

Points to council on this one.

There was a stop sign there. Are you really going to triple-down on this?

She was 100% the victim of a crime. The system is trying to help the perp dea agent escape being held responsible for her death.

"Here lies the body of Solomon Gray- - - -
Who died while defending his right of way- - - -
He was right, dead right, as he sped along- - - -
But now he's as dead as if he were wrong!"

60-something years of riding motorcycles has taught me that even though I can keep up with traffic (and outrun most of it) that I'd better ride as if everybody else on the road is out to kill me anytime I'm on the road. Being ignorant of one's surroundings on a bicycle is sort of like having a death wish, isn't it? That doesn't excuse some jackbooted thug with "immunity" for committing manslaughter, but getting out in public with minimal protection from a crash demands a certain amount of "defensive driving"- - - - -or riding, as the case may be.