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was watering my Super fetish tonite and came across this 24hr RJM thread--worth another look...:)

Supers

Bob, did you have a trigger job done for the Talo?

Appreciate it,
tom

..yes...local guy who was an Army Reserve Armorer for 20 years...came out at 3.19#..it is one of the lighter ones I have.

There are now three barrels in the TALO. The original that is match tight, a second .38 Super barrel from a friend's XSE Commander that was match tight and opened up to 9x23 Winchester and a KART 9mm barrel.

The XSE barrel solved the problem of shooting all the rounds with bulged brass. That said I have since bought a Lee die from EGW that puts the Super brass back to factory specs...wish I had know about them long ago...

The 9mm barrel just needed a little fitting and now runs 100%...

Bob

The factory crimp die?

...no but I use one of them also....

This is the die available only from EGW....

http://www.egwguns.com/index.php?p=product&id=839

Thank-you Bob

Daughter and future son-in-law visiting this week, in from CO. She announced her desire that she and Luke should start shooting pistol at a range together.

Will keep the Super under wraps for a while...the cool stuff has tended to migrate in a westerly direction lately...

Am a sucker for Colts sporting deep blue or black slides & lighter grips--preferably ivory...:)

...well this blue with ebony and ivory...

1952 Commander...carried daily from 1980-2007...




1960s vintage Super with carved Indian elephant ivory...





My first Super...also ebony and ivory...





...good luck with your quest....

Bob

You're gonna have to change your 24HR handle to "Super Bob"

It's the small block Chevy of handguns.

But you need to start with a .38 Super/9mm frame or switch to ramped barrels. I personally think the ramped barrel is THE way to go if you're going to do a lot of caliber swapping.

I agree with having ramped barrels, the major drawback being expense. Unless you buy a base gun with a ramped barrel, like a Kimber Stainless Target II, one then has to have a very competent smith mill the frame. Then price ramped vs. non-ramped barrels...

I have not found any major drawbacks to non-ramped 1911s...ramped is nice but expensive.

Bob

Interesting that the thread morphed into conversions.

Random comments:

The .400 Corbon is a .45 ACP case necked to .40 cal, so you need a .45 ACP slide & extractor.

The 9x25 Dillon is a 10mm case necked to 9mm, so it could work with .40/10mm slides.

I had a .40 S&W Double Eagle for a while. After I fixed spring & extractor problems, I noted that it fed better using regular 10mm magazines, as opposed to the shorter .40 cal mags - so you might try std 10mm mags with the .357 Sig.

I was told years ago that 9mm & .45 Colt Commanders share the same ejector and frame ramp, so one can theoretically just swap top ends & slide stops. This Commander:



came to me as a parts gun in .45 ACP. I found a 9mm slide, fitted a 9mm barrel, and it ran perfectly fine.

I prefer ramped barrels in frisky calibers:

I didn't think you put any stock in the "One Shot Stop" data. I haven't seen a compilation for a number of years. The last that I knew of had the 40 S&W as tops, having eclipsed the 357 Mag. after that round had been the top stopper for a number of years. Not nearly as much data existed for the Super or 10, IIRC. Those are specific loads though and not some summation of the whole cartridge.

My RIA 10mm has a ramped barrel, one of the reasons I am not afraid of my orignal spec level loadings. So, getting additional hot rod rounds for that frame sounds like a good way to go.

Please tell me more about this 9x25 Dillon! Sounds like an awesome additional barrel for my ramped already 10mm.

Faster than the 357 Magnum, even? If so, me likey!

I just looked it up and answered the question from above. Yes, significantly faster than even the mighty 357 Magnum with the lighter bullets. 115's at 1800fps!

I am guessing that these rounds would be a tad.... ummm...


LOUD!

Though

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9%C3%9725mm_Dillon

Impressive

Never really interested until my son sent me a line on a Tanfoglio Match Target...

Does he compete?

My interest goes back to reading outdoor rags in the barber shop...the kind where your mom used to drop you off and ask "how long" from the comfort of the threshold...

One stop shot is a complete myth. That's one of the big reasons that the FBI is going back to the 9mm. Data has shown that it's very rare that one shot actually ends a fight, and often not even two shots end the fight. So they feel since all common combat handgun cartridges are having mostly the same effect (meaning, regardless of cartridge, you still have to shoot multiple times), having more ammo in the magazine is much more important than what cartridge is in the magazine. And even though I carry a single column magazine gun, I can't really find much flaw with their conclusions.

If you start with a 9mm/Super frame, then it all works. If you start with a .45 frame, when you get the 9mm/.38 Super barrels, often the barrel with over-hang the frame at the feed ramp by a thousandth or two. One way to get around that is to cut the little dimple like Colt's been doing with some of their new guns, but that's not always a sure fire solution. Best to just start with the .38 Super feed ramp, the you can make it all work much easier.