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Cruz now knows the path for him outside of Iowa is filled with potholes.
The nomination is narrowing down to Trump and Rubio.
I think, once the after Iowa reality kicks into full gear, Cruz will support Trump's candidacy moreso than Rubio's. If Cruz supports Rubio, the Cruz outsider argument will finally be put to rest, at least.
Cruz isn't an outsider to government, he's an outsider to the establishment, and a conservative. That's something neither Trump or Rubio can say. It's the establishment and media that call Cruz an "outsider". Trump will not beat Rubio. No way.
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Cruz will have a sizable number of delegates after Super Tuesday, so what makes you think he would consider dropping out?
And Cruz can't hand off his support to Trump. The second choices for Cruz supporters don't include Trump.
They probably go Paul, Carson,Rubio as far as actual preference is concerned.
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The RNC has spent over 22 million on Bush ads.
Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny.
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It's the establishment and media that calls Cruz an "outsider". Trump will not beat Rubio. No way.
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It's why I said Cruz will likely support Trump moreso than Rubio.
Trump beat Rubio last night and he will certainly do so in NH. Unfortunately,after Iowa going to Cruz after the demographics clearly suggest it should have, Cruz can now no longer beat either Trump or Rubio.
Romney came in 2nd place to Santorum in 2012, right?
The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails.
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Romney came in 2nd place to Santorum in 2012, right? Yes, but only after the win was declared for Romney for a week and Santorum as much as resigned from the contest before discovering he had actually won...and he Santorum was broke.
The only thing worse than a liberal is a liberal that thinks they're a conservative.
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...And Santorum damn sure didn't tell Iowa that he was gonna end ethanol subsidies if elected. Nobody has ever escaped Iowa alive, much less victorious, after doing that.
Cruz isn't perfect, but he isn't a slimeball. That matters to Americans.
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It's the establishment and media that calls Cruz an "outsider". Trump will not beat Rubio. No way.
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It's why I said Cruz will likely support Trump moreso than Rubio.
Trump beat Rubio last night and he will certainly do so in NH. Unfortunately,after Iowa going to Cruz after the demographics clearly suggest it should have, Cruz can now no longer beat either Trump or Rubio.
Romney came in 2nd place to Santorum in 2012, right? I truthfully don't know who Cruz would support. If Trump were to pinky swear on Supreme Court justices, I could see Cruz supporting Trump over Rubio.
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The good news from all this is, money doesn't always win the election for cr  ppy candidates. Both Shrill and Shrub 3 prove this point. Jeb, you should perform an act of love and quit.
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Nothing has changed in the race since last Friday. This was all as expected.
NH and SC will show us the main event.
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JEB! is going broke:
Florida governor Jeb Bush received 5,165 votes in Iowa. His vote total constitutes 2.8 percent of the Republican turnout, placing him in sixth place in the Iowa caucus.
Yet no candidate in either party spent more in the race than Bush.
According to MSNBC, Bush spent $14.9 million in Iowa, all coming from Bush's super PAC. (In fact, if one were to consider national ads and money from the campaign, the total would be significantly more.)
That means, the once Republican frontrunner spent $2,884 per Iowa vote.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/article/2000869/He's getting very little to replace what he's spending: Jeb Bush, the one-time presumptive Republican nominee, is facing a very real money crunch. His campaign raised only $7 million in the last three months of last year. Fundraising for his once mammouth Right to Rise super PAC has also dried up.
Without a big surge in New Hampshire next week, Jeb’s campaign will come to an end very soon.http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/02/01/jeb-bush-money-juggernaut-blows-an-axle/Just goes to show that you cannot buy an election. All that money can accomplish is getting your message out but if it's the wrong message, you still loose.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
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Who is leading for the Republican nomination?
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So what will the RNC do now? They'll go all in for Rubio.
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So what will the RNC do now? They'll go all in for Rubio. Yes, they will. And so will FOX News. MM
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Rubio might surprise in NH.
Cruz is xfremely well organized and has a ground game that can keep him relevant for a long time .
Trump is a democrat showman.
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Brokered convetion = Rubio/Haley with Cruz to SCOTUS
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The RNC doesn't have to DO anything.
The only threat to their plan is Cruz, and he has definite uphill battle as long as Trump stays in the race.
Of course their favorite was Bush, but they will gladly settle for Rubio.
FLORIDA'S "winner take all " primary is Cruz's biggest obstacle. He MUST take a large portion of Texas' proportionately awarded delegates to offset a probable loss in Fl. South Carolina is the first ”winner-take-all” primary. And the first southern state in Ted's “Southern Strategy.”
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“In Trump We Trust.” Right????
SOMEBODY please tell TRH that Netanyahu NEVER said "Once we squeeze all we can out of the United States, it can dry up and blow away."
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https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbth..._Microsoft_Commit_Voter_Fra#Post10924533To Ensure Donald Trump’s Defeat?
On Sunday, Breitbart reported that Microsoft would be providing technology for tallying votes in the Iowa caucuses. Given that Microsoft is Rubio’s second-largest campaign contributor, this represents a massive conflict of interest. Other sources claim that the GOP establishment had a deliberate plan to goose Rubio’s vote count.http://www.returnofkings.com/79354/...d-in-iowa-to-ensure-donald-trumps-defeat
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Anybody ever work with new Microsoft software? Let's just say that I'm not going to attribute Rubio almost beating Trump to a Microsoft conspiracy.
Now, 90 precincts losing or not reporting votes in Iowa could VERY easily be due to Microsoft software. Blue screens everywhere...
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"It's not the people who vote that count. It's the people who count the votes."
Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe, an Obama phone, free health insurance. and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime.
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