24hourcampfire.com
24hourcampfire.com
-->
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Hop To
Page 2 of 2 1 2
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 23,453
4ager Offline OP
Campfire Ranger
OP Offline
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 23,453
Originally Posted by bucktales
Originally Posted by CrowRifle
And the monarchs winter in a couple of very, very small remote locations in Mexico. If those locations are lost the entire species might collapse.

I only saw a few Monarchs up here this year, and that's been only in the last few weeks.
Think I read something a few months back about something that damaged the Monarch population this year.


There was a massive freeze in Mexico a couple years back that killed enormous numbers of them. Then, there's the problem with declining amounts of milkweed which is the only thing their larva eat.


Originally Posted by Mannlicher
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
GB1

Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 2,454
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 2,454
It's happening, Florida is filling up with Yankees again, FML


Long Live The Judge

Thinking of moving to Florida? Don't........
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 37,877
Campfire 'Bwana
Online Content
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 37,877
Ya, in Mexico they go to a few mountain valley enclaves cool enough to slow down their metabolism but which don't freeze. The survivors stop and breed pretty much on the first milkweed they encounter coming back north in the spring, and then die.

Their offspring move north and again stop at the first milkweed they encounter, breed, and die. So that it may take five generations before Monarchs reach as far as Canada and Maine in late summer.

Instead of breeding, the last generation of the year turns around and migrates south.

Which means that they may be the great-great-great-grandchildren of the previous migratory generation.

Which means that the entire genetic repository of knowledge of where and when to migrate is passed unaltered through that many generations of a butterfly that in the egg stage is about as big as the head of a pin.

We've tagged migrating monarchs at our school several times over the years and had seven of several hundred tagged turn up in the big roost (El Rosario??), 600 miles south of San Antonio.

Birdwatcher





"...if the gentlemen of Virginia shall send us a dozen of their sons, we would take great care in their education, instruct them in all we know, and make men of them." Canasatego 1744
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 15,518
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 15,518
Good post and nice thread. A few years ago, our middle grandson (now 13, in Minn.) became interested in Monarchs during a science class and really went heavy with the research and raising them. He would go search to find the milkweed with eggs (do I have the correct term?) attached and incubate those in a nice terrarium. He also collected milkweed as needed.

He and his little sister were completely attentive. observant and fascinated with the process. The BIG days were when they turned one out to fly away. When one folded somewhere in the process, it was a very bad day.

He is a good teacher too - from him I learned a lot, including much of what is posted here.


NRA Member - Life, Benefactor, Patron
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 24,370
7
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
7
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 24,370
Monarch butterflies (Danaus plexippus) perform annual migrations across North America which have been called "one of the most spectacular natural phenomena in the world".[1]

Starting in September and October, eastern/northeastern populations migrate from southern Canada and the United States to overwintering sites in central Mexico where they arrive around November. They start the return trip in March, arriving around July. No individual butterfly completes the entire round trip; female monarchs lay eggs for the next generation during the northward migration[2] and at least five generations are involved in the annual cycle.

Similarly, the western populations migrate annually between regions west of the Rocky Mountains including northern Canada and overwintering sites at the coast of California.

Monarchs also perform small distance migrations in Australia and New Zealand. There are also some populations, for instance in Florida and the Caribbean, that do not migrate. Recently discovered overwintering sites have been identified in Arizona and northern Florida.[3][4]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monarch_butterfly_migration

[Linked Image]





IC B2

Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 14,196
S
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
S
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 14,196
Fantastic that these little creatures can migrate all the way to Mexico.

Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 32,074
L
las Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
L
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 32,074
Damn! Bilingual too?


The only true cost of having a dog is its death.

Page 2 of 2 1 2

Moderated by  RickBin 

Link Copied to Clipboard
AX24

572 members (10gaugeman, 160user, 204guy, 1234, 16gage, 06hunter59, 50 invisible), 2,290 guests, and 1,265 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Statistics
Forums81
Topics1,191,399
Posts18,470,113
Members73,931
Most Online11,491
Jul 7th, 2023


 


Fish & Game Departments | Solunar Tables | Mission Statement | Privacy Policy | Contact Us | DMCA
Hunting | Fishing | Camping | Backpacking | Reloading | Campfire Forums | Gear Shop
Copyright © 2000-2024 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved.



Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5
(Release build 20201027)
Responsive Width:

PHP: 7.3.33 Page Time: 0.108s Queries: 16 (0.005s) Memory: 0.8267 MB (Peak: 0.9181 MB) Data Comp: Zlib Server Time: 2024-04-26 13:34:09 UTC
Valid HTML 5 and Valid CSS