This is my first post, but I’ve been lurking for a while.
Anyone running RL26 in a 30-06 with a 180gr Partition or Accubond?
I’m thinking somewhere around 2900 fps would be nice to reach out and touch some elk out to about 700 yds.
This is for my Kimber 84L, 24” bbl. Match chamber. I’ll be using new Starline brass and WLR primers.
I’ve been loading H4350 under 30-06 165s for years, but have had impressive velocity results recently with RL26 in various 270 Win rifles with 130s, 145s, and 150s. I’m thinking the RL could really perk up the 30-06 with 180s.
Can anyone run me a QL simulation?
Thanks
I tried this. Know that you & MD are advocates. Looks great on paper. Couldn't get it to shoot in M70 under 180 NABs. Chose Re-17, followed closely by Re-22 and H4350.
I tried Hunter and 180 gr many loads with a lot of different primers no love. In several 06,s.
I have not tried RL-26 in the 30-06 with any bullet weight as I think it is a bit slow for the application. I won't bother trying as the 4350s work so well in my 30-06 rifles. I currently use 56 grains of H4350 in a Bergara B-14 Hunter with a short throat. In another 30-06, a push-feed Winchester Model 70, it takes two more grains to reach the same speed. I have tried 58 grains of Hunter in a third 30-06 and got good results, as Pharm suggested above.
RL-26 is a "wonder powder" in some applications, not in all. I don't think it is a wonder powder in this application. I could be wrong.
The combination of 180 grain Accubond and 63.8 grains of RL 26 is a safe and very accurate load in my Rem 700. The load produces 2862 FPS in the 22 inch barrel. This is a Quick Load work up that I use with very good results.
I loaded 165gr Ballistic tips and 165gr Trophy Bonded Tipped Using 215M primers and win case I used 3.280 OAL for both.
Trophy Bonded Tipped gave 3027 FPS . Ballistic Tips with same case and primer and powder charge gave 3008FPS and was more accurate.
Just as a side note I got 3006 FPS using Norma MRP same as other load With Ballistic Tip. Most times RL26 will be a little faster.
My rifle is a Weatherby with 24" barrel.
RL 17 55-57 grains is good stuff
RL 17 55-57 grains is good stuff
This! 56 grains.
Personally I think looking for 2900fps with a 180gr out of an 06 is asking a little much but I guess it’s worth a try. My top 3 choices for 30.06 is IMR-4350, RL-17 or RL-22 but I don’t think any of these will get you there. Good luck.
The combination of 180 grain Accubond and 63.8 grains of RL 26 is a safe and very accurate load in my Rem 700. The load produces 2862 FPS in the 22 inch barrel. This is a Quick Load work up that I use with very good results.
Compressed?
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In my rifle with 24" barrel I can get 3008 FPS with 165gr Ballistic Tips 215M primer and Win case. Or Norma MRP with 165gr bullets at 3006 FPS.
Never tryed 180gr.
Following up on an old post.
I finally got around finalizing a 30-06 load with RL-26 and 180gr Accubonds.
Kimber Classic 84L with 24” bbl
63.5 gr shot 2935 fps with an ES of 10 over 5 shots at 55F. 59.5kpsi per QL and no pressure signs. Slightly compressed load.
1.2” 3 shot group at 200 yards (twice).
Starline brass with 70.2g H2O. 1X
WLR primers
3.328” COAL, 2.700” CBTO, 0.018” jump
Sounds pretty good. I’ve used 58.0 grs of H4350 (Speer’s max) for 2740 or so with a 180 Accubond. I found some RL 26 a few weeks ago and I’ll have to give it a try.
63.5 gr of RL26 with 180 partitions yielded ES of 10 for me as well at 2900 fps in my 24” 700. Best group was .20” at 3 shot group at a 100.
RL 17 55-57 grains is good stuff
This! 56 grains.
Personally I think looking for 2900fps with a 180gr out of an 06 is asking a little much but I guess it’s worth a try.
It is if the powder is Re17.
BTDT. Once.
2935 fps
59.5kpsi per QL and no pressure signs
Yeah, I don’t know if I could bring myself to knowingly torch off one at that speed.
Prolly flinch pretty good if I did.
I tried this. Know that you & MD are advocates. Looks great on paper. Couldn't get it to shoot in M70 under 180 NABs. Chose Re-17, followed closely by Re-22 and H4350.
Did you use Magnum primers with Hunter?
2935 fps
59.5kpsi per QL and no pressure signs
Yeah, I don’t know if I could bring myself to knowingly torch off one at that speed.
Prolly flinch pretty good if I did.
I worked up very slowly from 57 gr. Spent a lot of time in the 62-63 gr range before getting comfortable to go to 63.5gr. That extra 1/2 grain gave more consistent ES and shrunk the group size. Otherwise I would have stopped at 63gr around 2910 fps.
63.5gr packs a wallop in a 7# gun, and is just 20 fps off 300WM factory loads with that bullet.
I did the same With my partition load. Found 63.5 to be the most consistent in MV and group for me. I use a magnum primer.
Wow. QuickLOAD shows a pressure still under 60 kpsi for a 180 Partition pushed to 2935 fps with Re26---not that I take that as gospel by any means. Reassuring nonetheless.
I was surprised how well H4831 did with the 180 Partition. Accuracy was very good, a little better than 0.7 MOA for five shots at 200 yards but velocity was not any better than I get with H4350 or Re16. I didn't want to push up to the next accuracy node and didn't try, in part because I've noticed that I usually see best accuracy around 2725 fps no matter what powder I'm using and in part because I don't trust QL predictions that much.
This report on Re26 is intriguing for sure. I'm not sure why I'd want to push the '06 to .300 WM velocities because I just don't see the need for the hunting I do...but I may just give it a try to satisfy my curiosity one of these days.
Thanks for sharing the info, Stammster!
Good to hear about the RL26. For years I have loaded RL19 with a 180 Accubond at 2800fps. Very accurate. What is the effect of cold on RL26? THank you
2935 fps
59.5kpsi per QL and no pressure signs
Yeah, I don’t know if I could bring myself to knowingly torch off one at that speed.
Prolly flinch pretty good if I did.
I worked up very slowly from 57 gr. Spent a lot of time in the 62-63 gr range before getting comfortable to go to 63.5gr. That extra 1/2 grain gave more consistent ES and shrunk the group size. Otherwise I would have stopped at 63gr around 2910 fps.
63.5gr packs a wallop in a 7# gun, and is just 20 fps off 300WM factory loads with that bullet.
I didn’t mean I would be worrying about recoil. I’d be flinching because I’d be half expecting my gun to blow up every shot.
If you’re good with it, by all means, proceed.
I would just want to see some actual pressure-tested data before I pushed a bullet that fast in an ‘06 case instead of QL.
2900+fps with a 180 grain bullet is impressive in a 30-06. I’ve used RL22 mostly for 180’s for years but if I run across some RL26 I’ll definitely give it a try.
ETA- I looked over Alliant’s web page data for this powder and it looks promising in several rounds I load for. 25-06, 7mm Rem mag, 300 Win and Weatherby. They don’t show anything for the ‘06 buy I’ll likely give it a go.
If you can find the stuff, it'll give you very good velocities---maybe the highest in some cases...but accuracy can be another thing all together. Sometimes it's there and sometimes it ain't.
I use lapua brass. Primer pockets are tight after 2nd loading and no signs of visual pressure signs.
Wow. QuickLOAD shows a pressure still under 60 kpsi for a 180 Partition pushed to 2935 fps with Re26---not that I take that as gospel by any means. Reassuring nonetheless.
Just to clarify. I was using a Accubond. The bearing surface is likely a little less than in a 180 Partition, due to the boat tail.
My 180 Partition load only went 2920 fps. I’d have to look up the charge, but I’m pretty sure it was <63 gr.
Also these sort of velocities are only available with “hotter” lots of RL-26. Seems like the pre-2020 lots packed a little more “umpf”, where the 2 newer lots I tried required 1-1.5 gr more to achieve the same velocity. In those lots I ran out of case capacity.
[quote=Stammster]
I didn’t mean I would be worrying about recoil. I’d be flinching because I’d be half expecting my gun to blow up every shot.
If you’re good with it, by all means, proceed.
I would just want to see some actual pressure-tested data before I pushed a bullet that fast in an ‘06 case instead of QL.
I fully understood. I was very cautious with this load. Everything was done very meticulously. I shot almost 70 rounds to get there, all over a chrono. Consistent velocities, nothing out of the ordinary ever, etc. Some brass up to 4X. In fact the velocity gain with increased powder as you start getting compressed starts to slow down with RL26. I’ve seen that in 270 Win and 6.5CM as well.
I also worked up a load with 165s and RL17 in this gun, and hit pressure at 58gr (by accident) - so I knew what to look for.
QL was just another data point that seemed to agree with all the other physical signs of not getting too aggressive (bolt lift, primer pockets, case head expansion, etc).
These are all dedicated to this gun only, and clearly marked “do not shoot over 60F”. All of my testing was done at 35-55F.
The other reason I feel comfortable, is I don’t think running up to 63-65k is an issue with a modern 30-06. So even more safety factor, even if QL is a bit off.
Wow. QuickLOAD shows a pressure still under 60 kpsi for a 180 Partition pushed to 2935 fps with Re26---not that I take that as gospel by any means. Reassuring nonetheless.
Just to clarify. I was using a Accubond. The bearing surface is likely a little less than in a 180 Partition, due to the boat tail.
My 180 Partition load only went 2920 fps. I’d have to look up the charge, but I’m pretty sure it was <63 gr.
Also these sort of velocities are only available with “hotter” lots of RL-26. Seems like the pre-2020 lots packed a little more “umpf”, where the 2 newer lots I tried required 1-1.5 gr more to achieve the same velocity. In those lots I ran out of case capacity.
Gotcha. Somehow I morphed it into a Partition as I read the thread.
I don't have a thing against the Accubond. The times I've used it and put it where it's supposed to go it worked very well (6.5 140-grain). I just happen to be very well stocked with 180 Partitions for the '06, and they have worked perfectly every time. SPS has 180 ABs right now for cheap...but they're "C grade," whatever that means (broken and missing polymer tips, maybe?). I might try em if I needed them.
I tried Reloader 26 with 168gr bullets in one of my 30-06's and wasn't overly impressed.I saw a posting where the person was having great results with it using 180gr bullets.I decided what the heck I'd give it a try with the heavier bullets.This is where it shines.I had my 28" Pacnor barreled 30-06 when I did my test loads.Just for thrills I loaded some 200gr Accubonds too.I loaded up Winchester cases,WLRM primers,180 Accubonds,with 63.5grs of Reloader 26.I clocked that load at 2992fps.I haven't tweaked this load any,this is my test load target and it is not bad,so I left everything as is.I tried the Reloader26 @ 63.5grs with 180gr Nosler Ballistic Tips in two of 30-06's.Both rifles grouped this load about 3/4".My 23" barreled rifle ran it at 2890fps and my 24" barreled rifle was 2882fps.Looks like a good solid 180gr load.The 200gr Accubond test load was Winchester case,WLRM primer,61.0grs Reloader 26 out of my 28" Pacnor barreled 30-06.This load clocked 2815fps on my Magnetospeed.So yes,Reloader 26 is certainly a great powder in the 30-06 for the heavier bullet weights.
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There's a reason it's called Magic Pixie Dust:
rtridge : .30-06 Spring. (SAAMI)
Bullet : .308, 180, Nosler BalTip 30180
Useable Case Capaci: 58.803 grain H2O = 3.818 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder : Alliant Reloder-26 *C
Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 0.794% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !
Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms
-07.9 100 58.00 2606 2715 40486 9988 96.8 1.364
-07.1 100 58.50 2633 2771 41719 10070 97.2 1.345
-06.3 101 59.00 2660 2828 42993 10147 97.6 1.326
-05.6 102 59.50 2687 2886 44320 10221 97.9 1.307
-04.8 103 60.00 2714 2944 45693 10290 98.3 1.288
-04.0 104 60.50 2741 3003 47117 10354 98.6 1.270
-03.2 105 61.00 2768 3063 48594 10413 98.8 1.252
-02.4 106 61.50 2795 3123 50127 10468 99.1 1.235
-01.6 106 62.00 2822 3184 51720 10517 99.3 1.217 ! Near Maximum !
-00.8 107 62.50 2849 3245 53373 10562 99.5 1.200 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 108 63.00 2876 3307 55091 10601 99.6 1.183 ! Near Maximum !
+00.8 109 63.50 2903 3369 56876 10635 99.8 1.166 ! Near Maximum !
+01.6 110 64.00 2930 3431 58734 10663 99.9 1.149 ! Near Maximum !
+02.4 111 64.50 2957 3495 60667 10686 99.9 1.133 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.2 112 65.00 2984 3558 62679 10703 100.0 1.117 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 112 65.50 3010 3622 64774 10715 100.0 1.101 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Results caused by ± 3% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 3% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 108 63.00 2932 3436 59144 10448 100.0 1.148 ! Near Maximum !
Data for burning rate decreased by 3% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 108 63.00 2813 3163 51296 10664 98.6 1.220 ! Near Maximum !
There's a reason it's called Magic Pixie Dust:
rtridge : .30-06 Spring. (SAAMI)
Bullet : .308, 180, Nosler BalTip 30180
Useable Case Capaci: 58.803 grain H2O = 3.818 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder : Alliant Reloder-26 *C
Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 0.794% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !
Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms
-07.9 100 58.00 2606 2715 40486 9988 96.8 1.364
-07.1 100 58.50 2633 2771 41719 10070 97.2 1.345
-06.3 101 59.00 2660 2828 42993 10147 97.6 1.326
-05.6 102 59.50 2687 2886 44320 10221 97.9 1.307
-04.8 103 60.00 2714 2944 45693 10290 98.3 1.288
-04.0 104 60.50 2741 3003 47117 10354 98.6 1.270
-03.2 105 61.00 2768 3063 48594 10413 98.8 1.252
-02.4 106 61.50 2795 3123 50127 10468 99.1 1.235
-01.6 106 62.00 2822 3184 51720 10517 99.3 1.217 ! Near Maximum !
-00.8 107 62.50 2849 3245 53373 10562 99.5 1.200 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 108 63.00 2876 3307 55091 10601 99.6 1.183 ! Near Maximum !
+00.8 109 63.50 2903 3369 56876 10635 99.8 1.166 ! Near Maximum !
+01.6 110 64.00 2930 3431 58734 10663 99.9 1.149 ! Near Maximum !
+02.4 111 64.50 2957 3495 60667 10686 99.9 1.133 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.2 112 65.00 2984 3558 62679 10703 100.0 1.117 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 112 65.50 3010 3622 64774 10715 100.0 1.101 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Results caused by ± 3% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 3% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 108 63.00 2932 3436 59144 10448 100.0 1.148 ! Near Maximum !
Data for burning rate decreased by 3% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 108 63.00 2813 3163 51296 10664 98.6 1.220 ! Near Maximum !
It amazes me how close Quickload data is when you plug in all the specific data.So,you really about run out of case room with this powder before your pressure gets too high.I feel quite comfortable shooting 63.5grs.Would you mind running it with a 200gr Accubond?I've only tried one load,61.0grs
There's a reason it's called Magic Pixie Dust:
rtridge : .30-06 Spring. (SAAMI)
Bullet : .308, 180, Nosler BalTip 30180
Useable Case Capaci: 58.803 grain H2O = 3.818 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder : Alliant Reloder-26 *C
Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 0.794% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !
Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms
-07.9 100 58.00 2606 2715 40486 9988 96.8 1.364
-07.1 100 58.50 2633 2771 41719 10070 97.2 1.345
-06.3 101 59.00 2660 2828 42993 10147 97.6 1.326
-05.6 102 59.50 2687 2886 44320 10221 97.9 1.307
-04.8 103 60.00 2714 2944 45693 10290 98.3 1.288
-04.0 104 60.50 2741 3003 47117 10354 98.6 1.270
-03.2 105 61.00 2768 3063 48594 10413 98.8 1.252
-02.4 106 61.50 2795 3123 50127 10468 99.1 1.235
-01.6 106 62.00 2822 3184 51720 10517 99.3 1.217 ! Near Maximum !
-00.8 107 62.50 2849 3245 53373 10562 99.5 1.200 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 108 63.00 2876 3307 55091 10601 99.6 1.183 ! Near Maximum !
+00.8 109 63.50 2903 3369 56876 10635 99.8 1.166 ! Near Maximum !
+01.6 110 64.00 2930 3431 58734 10663 99.9 1.149 ! Near Maximum !
+02.4 111 64.50 2957 3495 60667 10686 99.9 1.133 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.2 112 65.00 2984 3558 62679 10703 100.0 1.117 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 112 65.50 3010 3622 64774 10715 100.0 1.101 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Results caused by ± 3% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 3% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 108 63.00 2932 3436 59144 10448 100.0 1.148 ! Near Maximum !
Data for burning rate decreased by 3% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 108 63.00 2813 3163 51296 10664 98.6 1.220 ! Near Maximum !
It amazes me how close Quickload data is when you plug in all the specific data.So,you really about run out of case room with this powder before your pressure gets too high.I feel quite comfortable shooting 63.5grs.Would you mind running it with a 200gr Accubond?I've only tried one load,61.0grs
Depending on the powder I've compressed stuff to 110 and maybe a bit more. The 180's a long bullet so there's a lot of it to ram down into the powder.
Here's what the 200gr AB looks like
Cartridge : .30-06 Spring. (SAAMI)
Bullet : .308, 200, Nosler AccuBond 54618
Useable Case Capaci: 56.350 grain H2O = 3.659 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder : Alliant Reloder-26 *C
Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 0.833% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !
Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms
-08.3 98 55.00 2486 2744 40934 9639 98.0 1.422
-07.5 99 55.50 2512 2802 42231 9711 98.3 1.401
-06.7 100 56.00 2538 2861 43578 9778 98.6 1.381
-05.8 101 56.50 2564 2920 44976 9841 98.9 1.361
-05.0 102 57.00 2590 2980 46427 9899 99.1 1.341
-04.2 103 57.50 2616 3040 47933 9952 99.4 1.321
-03.3 104 58.00 2642 3101 49498 10000 99.5 1.302
-02.5 105 58.50 2668 3162 51125 10043 99.7 1.283 ! Near Maximum !
-01.7 106 59.00 2694 3224 52815 10080 99.8 1.264 ! Near Maximum !
-00.8 107 59.50 2720 3286 54573 10113 99.9 1.246 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 107 60.00 2746 3349 56403 10139 100.0 1.228 ! Near Maximum !
+00.8 108 60.50 2772 3412 58308 10160 100.0 1.210 ! Near Maximum !
+01.7 109 61.00 2797 3475 60286 10176 100.0 1.192 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.5 110 61.50 2823 3539 62357 10190 100.0 1.175 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.3 111 62.00 2849 3604 64510 10204 100.0 1.157 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.2 112 62.50 2874 3669 66756 10216 100.0 1.140 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Results caused by ± 3% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 3% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 107 60.00 2795 3468 60608 9951 100.0 1.192 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 3% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 107 60.00 2690 3215 52471 10268 99.4 1.266 ! Near Maximum !
There's a reason it's called Magic Pixie Dust:
rtridge : .30-06 Spring. (SAAMI)
Bullet : .308, 180, Nosler BalTip 30180
Useable Case Capaci: 58.803 grain H2O = 3.818 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder : Alliant Reloder-26 *C
Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 0.794% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !
Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms
-07.9 100 58.00 2606 2715 40486 9988 96.8 1.364
-07.1 100 58.50 2633 2771 41719 10070 97.2 1.345
-06.3 101 59.00 2660 2828 42993 10147 97.6 1.326
-05.6 102 59.50 2687 2886 44320 10221 97.9 1.307
-04.8 103 60.00 2714 2944 45693 10290 98.3 1.288
-04.0 104 60.50 2741 3003 47117 10354 98.6 1.270
-03.2 105 61.00 2768 3063 48594 10413 98.8 1.252
-02.4 106 61.50 2795 3123 50127 10468 99.1 1.235
-01.6 106 62.00 2822 3184 51720 10517 99.3 1.217 ! Near Maximum !
-00.8 107 62.50 2849 3245 53373 10562 99.5 1.200 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 108 63.00 2876 3307 55091 10601 99.6 1.183 ! Near Maximum !
+00.8 109 63.50 2903 3369 56876 10635 99.8 1.166 ! Near Maximum !
+01.6 110 64.00 2930 3431 58734 10663 99.9 1.149 ! Near Maximum !
+02.4 111 64.50 2957 3495 60667 10686 99.9 1.133 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.2 112 65.00 2984 3558 62679 10703 100.0 1.117 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 112 65.50 3010 3622 64774 10715 100.0 1.101 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Results caused by ± 3% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 3% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 108 63.00 2932 3436 59144 10448 100.0 1.148 ! Near Maximum !
Data for burning rate decreased by 3% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 108 63.00 2813 3163 51296 10664 98.6 1.220 ! Near Maximum !
It amazes me how close Quickload data is when you plug in all the specific data.So,you really about run out of case room with this powder before your pressure gets too high.I feel quite comfortable shooting 63.5grs.Would you mind running it with a 200gr Accubond?I've only tried one load,61.0grs
Depending on the powder I've compressed stuff to 110 and maybe a bit more. The 180's a long bullet so there's a lot of it to ram down into the powder.
Here's what the 200gr AB looks like
Cartridge : .30-06 Spring. (SAAMI)
Bullet : .308, 200, Nosler AccuBond 54618
Useable Case Capaci: 56.350 grain H2O = 3.659 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder : Alliant Reloder-26 *C
Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 0.833% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !
Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms
-08.3 98 55.00 2486 2744 40934 9639 98.0 1.422
-07.5 99 55.50 2512 2802 42231 9711 98.3 1.401
-06.7 100 56.00 2538 2861 43578 9778 98.6 1.381
-05.8 101 56.50 2564 2920 44976 9841 98.9 1.361
-05.0 102 57.00 2590 2980 46427 9899 99.1 1.341
-04.2 103 57.50 2616 3040 47933 9952 99.4 1.321
-03.3 104 58.00 2642 3101 49498 10000 99.5 1.302
-02.5 105 58.50 2668 3162 51125 10043 99.7 1.283 ! Near Maximum !
-01.7 106 59.00 2694 3224 52815 10080 99.8 1.264 ! Near Maximum !
-00.8 107 59.50 2720 3286 54573 10113 99.9 1.246 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 107 60.00 2746 3349 56403 10139 100.0 1.228 ! Near Maximum !
+00.8 108 60.50 2772 3412 58308 10160 100.0 1.210 ! Near Maximum !
+01.7 109 61.00 2797 3475 60286 10176 100.0 1.192 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.5 110 61.50 2823 3539 62357 10190 100.0 1.175 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.3 111 62.00 2849 3604 64510 10204 100.0 1.157 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.2 112 62.50 2874 3669 66756 10216 100.0 1.140 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Results caused by ± 3% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 3% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 107 60.00 2795 3468 60608 9951 100.0 1.192 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 3% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 107 60.00 2690 3215 52471 10268 99.4 1.266 ! Near Maximum !
So even with 61.0gr I'm running around 60K pressure.A good 30-06 can handle that.Thank You!
Just keep in mind there's variance between cases chamber etc., so work up properly and I suspect you'll find a load you like.
RL 17 55-57 grains is good stuff
This! 56 grains.
Personally I think looking for 2900fps with a 180gr out of an 06 is asking a little much but I guess it’s worth a try. My top 3 choices for 30.06 is IMR-4350, RL-17 or RL-22 but I don’t think any of these will get you there. Good luck.
Not Really, but RL 26 is a little too slow to get full velocity potential with a 180 out of an 06.
you want to find 29-- fps with a 180, then you powder is H 4831SC, and YES you will be OVER load manual data maxes...
but if you also look at the pressure the factory load data runs, you are well under the SAAMI max pressures for an 06 with that powder.
Use a crimp, an 06 will run all day long with no issues, with 65 grains of H 4831SC pushing a 180 grain SP ( or RN ) bullet. you're velocity will exceed 2900, even out of a 22 inch barrel.... even moreso with a 24 or 26 inch barrel.
and yeah, Nosler has pressure tested it in their ballistics lab in Bend....and verified it, not exceeding SAAMI pressure specs.
Have you done this, John? How was the accuracy?
RL-26 is a "wonder powder" in some applications, not in all. I don't think it is a wonder powder in this application. I could be wrong.
RL26 is well out of the wheelhouse for a 30-06 with any bullet weight. RL26 is a great powder for a few cartridges.
These days folks are sprinkling RL26 on their Wheaties and claiming their farts go 200fps faster. One of these days they’re gonna blow their azz off….
RL-26 is a "wonder powder" in some applications, not in all. I don't think it is a wonder powder in this application. I could be wrong.
RL26 is well out of the wheelhouse for a 30-06 with any bullet weight. RL26 is a great powder for a few cartridges.
These days folks are sprinkling RL26 on their Wheaties and claiming their farts go 200fps faster. One of these days they’re gonna blow their azz off….
Let's see what QL thinks:
Here's what the 180gr NBT looks like out of a 24" barrel
ADI 2213 is H4831.
At 65K PSI Rl-26 is less compressed than ADI AR 2213
Lots of powders will get you 2750+
Cartridge : .30-06 Spring. (SAAMI)
Bullet : .308, 180, Nosler BalTip 30180
Useable Case Capaci: 58.803 grain H2O = 3.818 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 65000 psi, or 448 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 115 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !
84 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 85%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time
% Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms
--------------------------------- -----------------------------------------------------------------
Alliant Reloder-26 *C 112.5 65.6 4.25 3013 100.0 65000 10716 1.099 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma MRP *C 113.2 64.0 4.15 2977 99.1 65000 10745 1.103 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N560 *C 114.8 63.6 4.12 2953 96.2 65000 10808 1.105 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate MAGPRO 115.0 66.3 4.29 2940 94.6 65000 10779 1.109 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-17 *T 102.0 58.0 3.76 2936 100.0 65000 9546 1.107 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-22 *C 115.0 63.0 4.08 2935 98.0 64547 10483 1.112 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-16 *C *T 107.1 56.6 3.67 2923 100.0 65000 9530 1.105 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 7828 SSC 112.5 62.7 4.06 2920 96.4 65000 10386 1.103 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ADI AR 2213 113.3 62.1 4.02 2903 96.2 65000 10281 1.104 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Ramshot Hunter 106.8 59.8 3.87 2899 99.6 65000 9775 1.117 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Winchester 760 100.9 57.8 3.75 2892 99.1 65000 9762 1.121 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon H414 100.9 57.8 3.75 2892 99.1 65000 9762 1.121 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-19 *C 111.3 60.4 3.91 2892 97.9 65000 9973 1.113 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Ramshot Magnum 113.5 67.0 4.34 2891 98.2 65000 9921 1.106 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ADI AR 2209 110.3 59.5 3.85 2884 97.7 65000 9870 1.109 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N550 *C 103.3 57.2 3.71 2882 100.0 65000 9522 1.129 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma URP *C 106.4 57.0 3.70 2882 100.0 65000 9389 1.124 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate 4350 105.6 57.2 3.71 2879 100.0 65000 9346 1.138 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon CFE223 *C 96.3 56.9 3.69 2876 100.0 65000 9309 1.122 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon LVR 103.6 56.2 3.64 2874 99.9 65000 9359 1.122 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma 204 *C 105.4 59.0 3.82 2864 97.6 65000 9675 1.116 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 4831 111.6 57.9 3.75 2863 100.0 65000 9174 1.133 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-23 *C *T 115.0 61.0 3.95 2863 100.0 59386 9459 1.153 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Ramshot Big Game 96.3 55.6 3.60 2855 100.0 65000 8931 1.126 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 4895 95.9 52.0 3.37 2850 100.0 65000 8954 1.134 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon H4831 SC *T 111.9 61.3 3.97 2848 95.6 65000 9668 1.115 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate 3100 115.0 62.3 4.04 2848 99.5 64697 9317 1.142 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Winchester WXR 115.0 61.7 4.00 2847 96.8 58308 10273 1.163 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V 109.2 57.3 3.71 2843 100.0 65000 8606 1.124 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-15 *C 96.7 52.4 3.40 2841 100.0 65000 8921 1.135 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma 203B *C 97.2 52.7 3.41 2839 100.0 65000 8849 1.136 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Winchester Supreme 780 109.1 62.4 4.04 2835 97.5 65000 9390 1.119 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon H380 98.0 54.3 3.52 2833 99.9 65000 9042 1.138 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon BL-C2 91.4 54.1 3.50 2832 100.0 65000 8728 1.138 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Shooters World SW4350 105.6 56.6 3.67 2832 99.1 65000 9250 1.139 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Lovex S070 105.6 56.6 3.67 2832 99.1 65000 9250 1.139 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma 203 old 98.6 54.0 3.50 2830 100.0 65000 8704 1.146 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon H4350 *T 108.3 57.4 3.72 2827 98.5 65000 9184 1.125 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 4350 106.3 57.3 3.71 2826 98.6 65000 9169 1.125 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Ramshot Wild Boar 91.8 53.2 3.45 2824 100.0 65000 8716 1.132 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Winchester 748 89.0 51.9 3.36 2823 100.0 65000 8409 1.133 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon H4895 93.4 50.6 3.28 2822 100.0 65000 8642 1.136 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 4320 98.7 52.6 3.41 2822 100.0 65000 8584 1.122 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ADI AR 2206H 93.7 50.8 3.29 2821 100.0 65000 8693 1.135 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 4955 Enduron *C*T 113.2 59.7 3.87 2815 95.9 65000 9395 1.124 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ADI AP 2214 115.0 64.7 4.19 2814 95.1 60801 9920 1.140 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Winchester 6,5 StaBall *T*C 104.2 60.8 3.94 2812 100.0 65000 8434 1.121 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Shooters World Long Rifle 104.3 55.3 3.58 2810 99.7 65000 8930 1.141 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Lovex S065 104.3 55.3 3.58 2810 99.7 65000 8930 1.141 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon H4831 *T 115.0 60.6 3.93 2809 95.0 61966 9559 1.138 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 4451 Enduron *C*T 101.5 54.4 3.52 2808 98.9 65000 9015 1.127 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 7828 115.0 60.6 3.93 2805 94.7 56960 10074 1.170 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot TAC *C 91.8 53.6 3.48 2805 99.7 65000 8848 1.133 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 4007 SSC 99.6 54.7 3.55 2804 98.6 65000 9044 1.137 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon VARGET *T 99.4 52.1 3.38 2804 100.0 65000 8610 1.128 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ADI AR 2208 99.1 52.1 3.38 2804 100.0 65000 8610 1.128 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 3031 96.3 48.8 3.16 2798 100.0 65000 7990 1.140 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Shooters World Match Rifle 93.5 52.2 3.39 2795 100.0 65000 8161 1.151 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Lovex D073.6 93.5 52.2 3.39 2795 100.0 65000 8161 1.151 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate 2520 91.4 52.2 3.39 2795 100.0 65000 8161 1.151 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 4064 100.1 51.2 3.32 2795 100.0 65000 8426 1.133 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Shooters World Precision 97.8 51.6 3.34 2793 100.0 65000 8297 1.145 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Lovex S062 97.8 51.6 3.34 2793 100.0 65000 8297 1.145 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N530 *C 90.1 49.1 3.18 2792 100.0 65000 8277 1.135 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate 4064 98.4 52.2 3.38 2792 100.0 65000 8156 1.168 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate 2200 91.8 50.5 3.27 2789 99.9 65000 8528 1.132 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-25 *C 115.0 62.0 4.02 2786 98.9 52582 10133 1.209 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 8208 XBR 92.2 50.0 3.24 2785 100.0 65000 8195 1.135 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma 201 *C 94.8 50.3 3.26 2783 100.0 65000 8260 1.149 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 4166 Enduron *C*T 100.6 52.2 3.38 2781 99.0 65000 8710 1.132 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N565 *C 115.0 64.0 4.15 2781 94.1 53503 10279 1.214 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N165 *C 115.0 61.7 4.00 2781 97.6 60559 9149 1.157 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Ramshot X-Terminator *C 89.5 51.8 3.36 2777 100.0 65000 8302 1.138 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N540 *C 96.4 52.8 3.42 2776 100.0 65000 8152 1.143 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N150 *C 106.1 54.3 3.52 2776 100.0 65000 8119 1.142 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma 202 *C 94.2 50.2 3.25 2773 100.0 65000 7994 1.145 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate 2230 87.4 51.3 3.32 2767 100.0 65000 8058 1.147 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate 2460 87.6 51.1 3.31 2765 100.0 65000 7968 1.156 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Lovex D073.5 87.8 51.1 3.31 2765 100.0 65000 7968 1.156 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate 2495 92.6 49.1 3.18 2765 100.0 65000 7844 1.175 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N160 *C 115.0 59.8 3.87 2764 95.8 61549 9057 1.152 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon H322 90.1 47.4 3.07 2762 100.0 65000 7771 1.137 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N140 *C 101.0 52.6 3.41 2761 100.0 65000 7953 1.140 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Lovex S060 94.2 49.7 3.22 2756 100.0 65000 8055 1.135 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Lovex D073.4 86.4 50.2 3.25 2755 100.0 65000 7853 1.152 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Shooters World AR Plus 86.4 50.2 3.25 2755 100.0 65000 7853 1.152 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate 2700 99.5 56.3 3.65 2752 98.3 65000 8498 1.143 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ADI AR 2210 86.0 48.1 3.12 2750 100.0 65000 7856 1.139 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Shooters World Tactical Rifle 86.3 49.8 3.23 2749 100.0 65000 7876 1.140 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Quickload 🙄
Although useful within reason, I would approach Quickload max loads with a critical eye and no small degree of caution….
Quickload 🙄
Although useful within reason, I would approach Quickload max loads with a critical eye and no small degree of caution….
And how's that different than any loading manual?
Antelope,
Because (most) load manuals use a pressure receiver that creates a pressure curve graph.
People only pay attention to peak pressure when the X axis displays the entire curve and importantly the Y axis displays time (duration).
Duration of peak pressure and the duration of entire curve is not predicted with Quick Load.
A guy can never reach SAMMI peak pressure, but still blow up the rifle because of the duration of the pressure.
I note some of the RL26 Quick Loads posted are well over SAMMI max of 60k psi and we have no knowledge of the duration of the pressure curve generated with those powder charges.
Antelope,
Because (most) load manuals use a pressure receiver that creates a pressure curve graph.
People only pay attention to peak pressure when the X axis displays the entire curve and importantly the Y axis displays time (duration).
Duration of peak pressure and the duration of entire curve is not predicted with Quick Load.
A guy can never reach SAMMI peak pressure, but still blow up the rifle because of the duration of the pressure.
I note some of the RL26 Quick Loads posted are well over SAMMI max of 60k psi and we have no knowledge of the duration of the pressure curve generated with those powder charges.
Right over your head.
Point is, even with pressure tested data, it's best to work up.
Sigh……
Of course we work up regardless of the source. But pressure translates into velocity. And if you have been paying attention we can be waaaay over pressure without pressure signs.
Velocity derived from a pressure receiver vs velocity derived from calculations—which one is more legit?
There's a reason it's called Magic Pixie Dust:
rtridge : .30-06 Spring. (SAAMI)
Bullet : .308, 180, Nosler BalTip 30180
Useable Case Capaci: 58.803 grain H2O = 3.818 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder : Alliant Reloder-26 *C
Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 0.794% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !
Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms
-07.9 100 58.00 2606 2715 40486 9988 96.8 1.364
-07.1 100 58.50 2633 2771 41719 10070 97.2 1.345
-06.3 101 59.00 2660 2828 42993 10147 97.6 1.326
-05.6 102 59.50 2687 2886 44320 10221 97.9 1.307
-04.8 103 60.00 2714 2944 45693 10290 98.3 1.288
-04.0 104 60.50 2741 3003 47117 10354 98.6 1.270
-03.2 105 61.00 2768 3063 48594 10413 98.8 1.252
-02.4 106 61.50 2795 3123 50127 10468 99.1 1.235
-01.6 106 62.00 2822 3184 51720 10517 99.3 1.217 ! Near Maximum !
-00.8 107 62.50 2849 3245 53373 10562 99.5 1.200 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 108 63.00 2876 3307 55091 10601 99.6 1.183 ! Near Maximum !
+00.8 109 63.50 2903 3369 56876 10635 99.8 1.166 ! Near Maximum !
+01.6 110 64.00 2930 3431 58734 10663 99.9 1.149 ! Near Maximum !
+02.4 111 64.50 2957 3495 60667 10686 99.9 1.133 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.2 112 65.00 2984 3558 62679 10703 100.0 1.117 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 112 65.50 3010 3622 64774 10715 100.0 1.101 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Results caused by ± 3% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 3% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 108 63.00 2932 3436 59144 10448 100.0 1.148 ! Near Maximum !
Data for burning rate decreased by 3% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 108 63.00 2813 3163 51296 10664 98.6 1.220 ! Near Maximum !
Maybe I’m not used to reading QL tables, but that doesn’t top out much more above 2800 than 4831 can safely get, does it?
I tried Reloader 26 with 168gr bullets in one of my 30-06's and wasn't overly impressed.I saw a posting where the person was having great results with it using 180gr bullets.I decided what the heck I'd give it a try with the heavier bullets.This is where it shines.I had my 28" Pacnor barreled 30-06 when I did my test loads.Just for thrills I loaded some 200gr Accubonds too.I loaded up Winchester cases,WLRM primers,180 Accubonds,with 63.5grs of Reloader 26.I clocked that load at 2992fps.I haven't tweaked this load any,this is my test load target and it is not bad,so I left everything as is.I tried the Reloader26 @ 63.5grs with 180gr Nosler Ballistic Tips in two of 30-06's.Both rifles grouped this load about 3/4".My 23" barreled rifle ran it at 2890fps and my 24" barreled rifle was 2882fps.Looks like a good solid 180gr load.The 200gr Accubond test load was Winchester case,WLRM primer,61.0grs Reloader 26 out of my 28" Pacnor barreled 30-06.This load clocked 2815fps on my Magnetospeed.So yes,Reloader 26 is certainly a great powder in the 30-06 for the heavier bullet weights.
Ok, but…28 inch barrel…
Sigh……
Of course we work up regardless of the source. But pressure translates into velocity. And if you have been paying attention we can be waaaay over pressure without pressure signs.
Velocity derived from a pressure receiver vs velocity derived from calculations—which one is more legit?
You probably worry about shooting 5.56 factory loads in a .223 rem chamber.
Duration of peak pressure and the duration of entire curve is not predicted with Quick Load.
I note some of the RL26 Quick Loads posted are well over SAMMI max of 60k psi and we have no knowledge of the duration of the pressure curve generated with those powder charges.
Are you sure about that?
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This is not the graph for RL-26, but quick load does provide a predicted pressure curve.
The curve for RL-26 is smooth and regular, without the weird spike you see in some load combinations. It's this feature that allows rl-26 to produce higher velocities within SAAMI pressure specs.
180 game kings and 58 grains of hunter was great. Stout but not a fan of compressed loads. Went down to 57 and still over 2800fps.
Hunter has also been great in my 270 with 140s.
I have no problem with compressed loads.
I have no problem with compressed loads.
Me either,in fact,nearly every load I shoot in the 30-06 with 4350 or slower powder is compressed or near compressed.
I am thinking of trying a 180gr NBT with H4350 in my 7600 carbine for an in woods deer load.
Does anyone have experience running that combo?
I am thinking of trying a 180gr NBT with H4350 in my 7600 carbine for an in woods deer load.
Does anyone have experience running that combo?
I have been running this combo for decades with 56 grains of this powder. Much less meat damage than with 150 BTs at shorter distances.
Consistent sub-moa groups.