I checked a local shop today that has six pounds of Accurate 2015 powder. Checking data shows it may possibly be a good 35 Whelen powder with 200 gr. bullets.

Has anyone used it for this purpose or in any other cartridge that you feel it excels in?

I burn a lot of it... I'm sitting on 25 lbs or it or so...

223, 22.250, 243 with varmint bullets, 6.5 Grendal, and now 17 Fireball....

I like it a lot in 30-30, 223 with 50-55 bullets, 308 with 125gr bullets, it's good stuff, don't do anything like yer trying to do though.
It close to IMR3031 burn rate wise, but measures like a dream compared to 3031.

45/70, 444, and 22/250.

It’s done very well in those three for me. I always try to have a couple pounds of it on hand.

with a case mouth as wide for 35 caliber bullets, is 3031 really an issue? just sayin'

check out this site... at the top of almost each bullet weight, the first powder it starts out with is AA 2015 load data... 35 Whelen...

http://stevespages.com/358_2_180.html

I've been checking my loading manuals and this powder seems to have a broad range of uses. It may work out well for 200 gr. loads in the Whelen.

Went back to the shop that I was in a couple of weeks ago. They still had 5 pounds at $32.00 per. Started to buy a pound to test it in the Whelen then thought, with my luck it works great and I would go back to find it all sold. I bought all of it figuring with calibers from .223 to 45-70 there will be something that it works well in.

Ive never used it in a Whelen, but I have shot some in my 223rem combination gun with 55gr and 60gr bullets. Both loadings shot very accurate for me.

I’ve used 2015 in my .35 Remingtons with 150-grain bullets. It gives highest velocities in the little .35, not sure in the big .35 but of course it will work.

DR,
I've found loads in manuals for the Whelen that are giving data with top or near top velocities with A2015, hopefully with accuracy as well.

84Mtn,
If Whelen loads don't work out, I've got .223 and 45-70 in mind as backup alternatives. I might even consider the 45-70 option to be better. My load for it with 405 gr. Remingtons uses H335 which is accurate as hell but the fireball at low light resembles the muzzle blast of the USS Missouri's big guns.

I just bought 2 pounds of it at a local gunshow, and another one made by accurate. Some weird benchrest powder (LT32). I'm also interested to see what people are using this AA2015 for.. In the load data I have for my new 6x45 AA 2015 is listed, so that's probably where I'll try it first.. That and 223 rem with lighter bullets.

Hey welcome 84! I live in Oregon, but family roots are also in SE West Va.. I was born in Bluefield... Grandparents and my folks were raised in Monroe County,
Grandma's side was from Raleigh County....family also in Greenbriar and Summers County....

I'm descended from Meadows and Lilly stock....which have been there as the first White folks to settle there... in what was Lillydale , before they flooded it with a reservoir around 1950....

if you are familiar with the Lilly family reunion held each year at Flat Top, I'm part of those folks....

Welcome and enjoy the campfire....its a fun place.. I've been here since 2004

A slight problem with this powder is that some of the loading manuals are off a bit.
The reason is because Accurate 2015 has been manufactured in three different countries Israel,the Czech Republic, and now in Canada.
The newer powder made in Canada is a slightly slower burn rate than the other two and most of the load manuals were developed with the older powders.

The "weird benchrest powder (LT32)" was developed to compete directly with VihtaVuori N133.
It was meant to replicate the original T32 powder that has not been manufactured in many years.
The man behind helping Accurate develop this powder was Lou Murdica hence the L.

If you look at Hodgdons new burn rate chart published Nov2019 they were completely clueless where most of the Accurate powders fit in, now that they own Accurate it will be interesting to see how long it takes to publish a chart that is closer to correct

Thanks boat anchor. The bottle says it was developed for the 6PPC, but also works well in 223 rem. I probably won't use any of it until I run across some good reliable load data. Just need to do a little bit of research. Until then, I have a lot more powders I can burn. I just figured since it was there for a good price, I should buy it.. You know how gunshows can be sometimes.. Also, it was one of my buddies that was selling it. So I trust that it was an unopened bottle of powder. Sometimes I get a little leery about buying powder at a gunshow. He often has a few tables set up at these local shows.

Yes LT32 was developed for the 6ppc using 65-75 grain bullets. It’s been out for about 10 years now. Works very well in the 223. LT30 which was designed for the 30BR, LT32 and 2015 are made in Canada on the same machine, hence they can be blended to give different burn profiles. 30 and 32 mixed 50/50 gives LT31 which since 30 is faster than 32 gives a burn rate just about in the middle of those 2. 2015 being slower than 32 being blended 50/50 was a very fine performer in 223 up to 62 grain bullets.
Plenty of reliable load data on all of those here.
http://www.ramshot.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/WesternPowdersHandloadingGuide8.0_WEB.pdf

Thats good info Swifty. Thanks for posting it. Found a good use for that LT32 powder and some 77 smk I just bought..and the new 6x45..

I bet he meant how it works through a powder measure, not a case neck.

AA2015 is a sleepr in 358 Winchester with 200s & 225s. Less bulky than W748, measures easier than 3031, burns clean, gives top speeds with good accuracy in the 2 rifles I've tried it; an old Ruger 77R & a Shilen barreled M70.

I have used a lot of it, and like it. If I were low on powder, I would not hesitate to buy more of it. Right now, I have more modern powders that I like a little better, such as TAC for the 223/5.56.

I don't know if A2015 is going to be any better or even as good as the RL15 I normally use. The shop had a nice supply of it at a decent price and after coming home and looking in to it I said to myself, just buy it. It'll work for something I use.

I believe it will be a decent powder for 200 gr. bullets. The Nosler #8 gives a velocity of 2769 fps and Western's #8 gives 2798 fps using 200 gr. Hornady's, both with max. loads. For heavier bullets, RL15 and Varget will be better powders in the Whelen.

I live in Summers county about 2 miles from Bluestone and hunt in Monroe County. Small world. Thanks for the welcome

It sounds like you have found a great backup plan and having a plan B is always good. You mentioned H322 and that also is a great 223rem powder.
I've seen some limited data listed with both H322 and AA2015 listed for 8x57 too so that might also be worth exploring.

You'll be hard pressed to find any powder better than RL15 (maybe AR Comp), but I'm sure you will make due with the AA 2015 you found. Its far better than being empty handed...

bsa,

I'm well stocked on RL15. I've been using it over 20 years in various Whelen and .308 win. rifles. I simply bought A2015 to try and because it will work in other cartridges.

In today's state of affairs, it's never a bad idea to pick up loading supplies that can be used in multiple options. If it allows me to develop loads that work well and keeps me from burning up my favorites, all the better.

Singing to the choir..

A2015 update,

I started this thread talking about using it for 35 Whelen. Well what has happened is a swerve. I started working on 45-70 first and RL7, which I've used in the past with 300gr. HPs didn't work very well with 405gr. SP. Everything I've read indicated A2015 could work for the 45-70.

Out of my H&R Handi rifle test loads ended up with an average of 1702 fps velocity and 1.5in. five shot groups @ 100 yds. with;

Win. brass
WLR primers
Rem. 405gr. SP
48.0gr. A2015

At my age and volume of use of this rifle/cartridge, I'm thinking 500 rounds I've loaded will cover my lifetime. Probably will have grandkids still using it when I'm done.

ended up picking up 4 of the eight pound jugs while it was still available...

last two rifle rounds I have been playing with, the Grendal and the 17 Fireball... both seem to work real well with 2015, right along with the 223, and 22.250...

since the 8 x 57, really looks like a big 223 case, I thought it should work well in that also...

so I loaded some up, using my favorite 8 mm bullet in it, the Speer 170 gr SMP...

was accurate in all three of these old Mausers that I have that were passed down to me from family members...

Yep, for sure.

My 12 twist JES bored Pre-64 Fwt .358 Win likes 2015, also does good with RL-7, especially with lighter bullets. I've tried LT-32, but like RL-7 and 2015 better. 2015 works well in a number of rounds.

With today's powder shortages, I think I'd have walked out of there with several cans.

DF

DF,

I bought the five pounds the shop had. Having now become familiar with it's broad usage capabilities I'm a fan. It will be a powder I stock as I come across it.

I've enough left over to give it a try in the Whelen and load 100-140 loads for use if it works well.

I've burned up a pound now in my 6x45. It is working very well. Good stuff.

My Ruger 77 in 358 also loved 2015 back in the day when I had some.