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Found some 140 E Tips to try in my 708. No luck finding partitions or ballistic tips. Any loading hints for these? Do they require jump or like to be close to lands?

Sample of one but I found them to shoot to the same POI and more or less the same size groups as Partitions, when seated to the same OAL as the same weight Partitions.

As I said, sample of one, because I only use them in one rifle but they’ve been outstanding.

Good to hear. Haven't tried partitions yet.....I plan to seat them close .005 off lands and work back.

They generate higher pressures than some other bullets, but this may have been more true when they had fewer relief grooves. I load them like Barnes with some jump and stop short of the maximum load by half to one grain depending on the case size.

Thanks Dboston

Here's a few idea's for you.
Let me know if there's a particular powder you'd like me to drill down on for you:

Code

Cartridge          : 7 mm-08 Rem.
Bullet             : .284, 140, Nosler E-Tip  59955
Useable Case Capaci: 45.858 grain H2O = 2.978 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.800 inch = 71.12 mm
Barrel Length      : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 59000 psi, or 406 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 110 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

51 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 70%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
Alliant Reloder-17 *T              104.2     46.2     2.99    2960    99.9    59000    8976   1.115  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-16 *C *T           109.2     45.0     2.91    2934    99.2    59000    8879   1.116  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter                     109.1     47.6     3.09    2909    97.5    59000    8949   1.126  ! Near Maximum !
Norma URP *C                       108.8     45.5     2.95    2903    98.9    59000    8710   1.131  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4350                      108.3     45.8     2.97    2902    99.0    59000    8701   1.144  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H414                       103.1     46.1     2.99    2901    96.7    59000    8892   1.130  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 760                     103.1     46.1     2.99    2901    96.7    59000    8892   1.130  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N550 *C                 105.5     45.6     2.95    2900    98.8    59000    8809   1.138  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon CFE223 *C                   98.4     45.4     2.94    2898    99.1    59000    8638   1.130  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon LVR                        105.8     44.7     2.90    2891    98.4    59000    8628   1.130  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Big Game                    98.3     44.3     2.87    2880    99.6    59000    8338   1.134  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4895                            97.6     41.3     2.67    2871    99.7    59000    8341   1.146  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon BL-C2                       93.2     43.0     2.79    2861   100.0    59000    8160   1.148  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203B *C                       99.0     41.8     2.71    2860    99.7    59000    8243   1.148  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-15 *C               98.4     41.6     2.70    2859    99.4    59000    8282   1.148  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203 old                      100.6     43.0     2.79    2859    99.9    59000    8154   1.156  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 204 *C                       107.3     46.9     3.04    2857    94.1    59000    8669   1.130  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 748                      90.7     41.2     2.67    2856   100.0    59000    7852   1.141  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H380                        99.7     43.1     2.79    2845    98.5    59000    8319   1.151  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 3031                            98.3     38.8     2.52    2844   100.0    59000    7426   1.147  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4895                       94.8     40.1     2.60    2844    99.8    59000    8044   1.150  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Wild Boar                   93.3     42.2     2.73    2843    99.6    59000    8102   1.144  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4320                           100.4     41.8     2.71    2843    99.6    59000    7983   1.133  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-26 *C              110.0     50.0     3.24    2840    96.7    48772    9676   1.209
ADI AR 2206H                        95.2     40.2     2.61    2839    99.6    59000    8072   1.150  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S070                         107.5     45.0     2.91    2836    96.8    59000    8405   1.153  ! Near Maximum !
Shooters World SW4350              107.5     45.0     2.91    2836    96.8    59000    8405   1.153  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4064                      100.5     41.6     2.69    2832   100.0    59000    7614   1.178  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2520                       93.3     41.6     2.69    2831   100.0    59000    7622   1.161  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D073.6                        95.4     41.6     2.69    2831   100.0    59000    7622   1.161  ! Near Maximum !
Shooters World Match Rifle          95.4     41.6     2.69    2831   100.0    59000    7622   1.161  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 6,5 StaBall *T*C        106.0     48.2     3.12    2830    99.9    59000    7891   1.132  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V                110.0     45.0     2.91    2828    99.6    55876    8025   1.156  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4350                           108.2     45.5     2.95    2826    95.8    59000    8275   1.139  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4350 *T                   110.0     45.5     2.95    2821    95.6    58636    8270   1.142  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S062                          99.4     40.9     2.65    2818   100.0    59000    7738   1.159  ! Near Maximum !
Shooters World Precision            99.4     40.9     2.65    2818   100.0    59000    7738   1.159  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S065                         106.0     43.8     2.84    2816    97.8    59000    8157   1.156  ! Near Maximum !
Shooters World Long Rifle          106.0     43.8     2.84    2816    97.8    59000    8157   1.156  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2208                        100.5     41.2     2.67    2816    99.3    59000    7945   1.143  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon VARGET *T                  100.8     41.2     2.67    2816    99.3    59000    7945   1.143  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N530 *C                  91.4     38.9     2.52    2815   100.0    59000    7698   1.149  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N540 *C                  98.0     41.9     2.71    2811   100.0    59000    7571   1.153  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2495                       94.5     39.1     2.53    2810   100.0    59000    7296   1.186  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot TAC *C                      93.0     42.4     2.75    2810    98.0    59000    8068   1.150  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4064                           101.5     40.5     2.63    2809    99.4    59000    7799   1.147  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H335                        86.3     39.8     2.58    2809   100.0    59000    7436   1.150  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 202 *C                        95.6     39.8     2.58    2807   100.0    59000    7421   1.156  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2209                        110.0     46.2     3.00    2807    93.0    54968    8646   1.161  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 8208 XBR                        93.5     39.5     2.56    2807   100.0    59000    7619   1.149  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 201 *C                        96.2     39.8     2.58    2805   100.0    59000    7691   1.164  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4451 Enduron *C*T              102.9     43.0     2.78    2805    96.3    59000    8126   1.144  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N150 *C                 108.0     43.1     2.79    2805   100.0    59000    7580   1.152  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4007 SSC                       101.1     43.3     2.81    2801    95.8    59000    8149   1.154  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H322                        91.4     37.5     2.43    2798   100.0    59000    7190   1.148  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2219                         85.9     37.5     2.43    2798   100.0    59000    7190   1.148  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2200                       93.0     39.9     2.59    2796    98.7    59000    7816   1.148  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant AR-Comp *C *T               93.3     38.2     2.47    2793   100.0    59000    6859   1.154  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D073.5                        89.3     40.5     2.62    2793   100.0    59000    7428   1.170  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2460                       89.0     40.5     2.62    2793   100.0    59000    7428   1.170  ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP *C                       110.0     48.5     3.14    2792    93.4    48636    9296   1.217
Ramshot X-Terminator *C             90.7     40.9     2.65    2790    99.5    59000    7682   1.154  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-19 *C              110.0     46.5     3.01    2789    92.9    52984    8674   1.182  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester Supreme 780             110.0     49.0     3.18    2787    93.3    56493    8318   1.154  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2230                       88.8     40.6     2.63    2787    99.8    59000    7509   1.162  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N140 *C                 102.5     41.7     2.70    2786   100.0    59000    7405   1.152  ! Near Maximum !
Shooters World AR Plus              87.8     39.8     2.58    2781   100.0    59000    7314   1.166  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D073.4                        87.8     39.8     2.58    2781   100.0    59000    7314   1.166  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N135 *C                 104.4     40.0     2.59    2780   100.0    59000    6948   1.161  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4166 Enduron *C*T              101.8     41.2     2.67    2777    96.5    59000    7848   1.151  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4831                           110.0     44.5     2.89    2776    98.0    51720    8315   1.208  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2210                         86.9     37.9     2.46    2772   100.0    59000    7277   1.154  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S060                          95.2     39.2     2.54    2768    99.6    59000    7445   1.152  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-12                  91.2     39.3     2.55    2767   100.0    59000    7020   1.154  ! Near Maximum !
Shooters World Tactical Rifle       87.4     39.4     2.55    2767    99.9    59000    7315   1.155  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Benchmark                   92.4     38.5     2.49    2764   100.0    59000    7237   1.155  ! Near Maximum !

John Barsness (Posts here as "Mule Deer") found they liked to be a fair bit off the lands. There has been some other discussion here that a search might reveal for you.

Good Luck,
Rex

Originally Posted by antelope_sniper

Here's a few idea's for you.
Let me know if there's a particular powder you'd like me to drill down on for you:

Code

Cartridge          : 7 mm-08 Rem.
Bullet             : .284, 140, Nosler E-Tip  59955
Useable Case Capaci: 45.858 grain H2O = 2.978 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.800 inch = 71.12 mm
Barrel Length      : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 59000 psi, or 406 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 110 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

51 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 70%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
Alliant Reloder-17 *T              104.2     46.2     2.99    2960    99.9    59000    8976   1.115  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-16 *C *T           109.2     45.0     2.91    2934    99.2    59000    8879   1.116  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter                     109.1     47.6     3.09    2909    97.5    59000    8949   1.126  ! Near Maximum !
Norma URP *C                       108.8     45.5     2.95    2903    98.9    59000    8710   1.131  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4350                      108.3     45.8     2.97    2902    99.0    59000    8701   1.144  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H414                       103.1     46.1     2.99    2901    96.7    59000    8892   1.130  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 760                     103.1     46.1     2.99    2901    96.7    59000    8892   1.130  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N550 *C                 105.5     45.6     2.95    2900    98.8    59000    8809   1.138  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon CFE223 *C                   98.4     45.4     2.94    2898    99.1    59000    8638   1.130  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon LVR                        105.8     44.7     2.90    2891    98.4    59000    8628   1.130  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Big Game                    98.3     44.3     2.87    2880    99.6    59000    8338   1.134  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4895                            97.6     41.3     2.67    2871    99.7    59000    8341   1.146  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon BL-C2                       93.2     43.0     2.79    2861   100.0    59000    8160   1.148  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203B *C                       99.0     41.8     2.71    2860    99.7    59000    8243   1.148  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-15 *C               98.4     41.6     2.70    2859    99.4    59000    8282   1.148  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203 old                      100.6     43.0     2.79    2859    99.9    59000    8154   1.156  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 204 *C                       107.3     46.9     3.04    2857    94.1    59000    8669   1.130  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 748                      90.7     41.2     2.67    2856   100.0    59000    7852   1.141  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H380                        99.7     43.1     2.79    2845    98.5    59000    8319   1.151  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 3031                            98.3     38.8     2.52    2844   100.0    59000    7426   1.147  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4895                       94.8     40.1     2.60    2844    99.8    59000    8044   1.150  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Wild Boar                   93.3     42.2     2.73    2843    99.6    59000    8102   1.144  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4320                           100.4     41.8     2.71    2843    99.6    59000    7983   1.133  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-26 *C              110.0     50.0     3.24    2840    96.7    48772    9676   1.209
ADI AR 2206H                        95.2     40.2     2.61    2839    99.6    59000    8072   1.150  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S070                         107.5     45.0     2.91    2836    96.8    59000    8405   1.153  ! Near Maximum !
Shooters World SW4350              107.5     45.0     2.91    2836    96.8    59000    8405   1.153  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4064                      100.5     41.6     2.69    2832   100.0    59000    7614   1.178  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2520                       93.3     41.6     2.69    2831   100.0    59000    7622   1.161  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D073.6                        95.4     41.6     2.69    2831   100.0    59000    7622   1.161  ! Near Maximum !
Shooters World Match Rifle          95.4     41.6     2.69    2831   100.0    59000    7622   1.161  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 6,5 StaBall *T*C        106.0     48.2     3.12    2830    99.9    59000    7891   1.132  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V                110.0     45.0     2.91    2828    99.6    55876    8025   1.156  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4350                           108.2     45.5     2.95    2826    95.8    59000    8275   1.139  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4350 *T                   110.0     45.5     2.95    2821    95.6    58636    8270   1.142  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S062                          99.4     40.9     2.65    2818   100.0    59000    7738   1.159  ! Near Maximum !
Shooters World Precision            99.4     40.9     2.65    2818   100.0    59000    7738   1.159  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S065                         106.0     43.8     2.84    2816    97.8    59000    8157   1.156  ! Near Maximum !
Shooters World Long Rifle          106.0     43.8     2.84    2816    97.8    59000    8157   1.156  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2208                        100.5     41.2     2.67    2816    99.3    59000    7945   1.143  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon VARGET *T                  100.8     41.2     2.67    2816    99.3    59000    7945   1.143  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N530 *C                  91.4     38.9     2.52    2815   100.0    59000    7698   1.149  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N540 *C                  98.0     41.9     2.71    2811   100.0    59000    7571   1.153  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2495                       94.5     39.1     2.53    2810   100.0    59000    7296   1.186  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot TAC *C                      93.0     42.4     2.75    2810    98.0    59000    8068   1.150  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4064                           101.5     40.5     2.63    2809    99.4    59000    7799   1.147  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H335                        86.3     39.8     2.58    2809   100.0    59000    7436   1.150  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 202 *C                        95.6     39.8     2.58    2807   100.0    59000    7421   1.156  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2209                        110.0     46.2     3.00    2807    93.0    54968    8646   1.161  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 8208 XBR                        93.5     39.5     2.56    2807   100.0    59000    7619   1.149  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 201 *C                        96.2     39.8     2.58    2805   100.0    59000    7691   1.164  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4451 Enduron *C*T              102.9     43.0     2.78    2805    96.3    59000    8126   1.144  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N150 *C                 108.0     43.1     2.79    2805   100.0    59000    7580   1.152  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4007 SSC                       101.1     43.3     2.81    2801    95.8    59000    8149   1.154  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H322                        91.4     37.5     2.43    2798   100.0    59000    7190   1.148  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2219                         85.9     37.5     2.43    2798   100.0    59000    7190   1.148  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2200                       93.0     39.9     2.59    2796    98.7    59000    7816   1.148  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant AR-Comp *C *T               93.3     38.2     2.47    2793   100.0    59000    6859   1.154  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D073.5                        89.3     40.5     2.62    2793   100.0    59000    7428   1.170  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2460                       89.0     40.5     2.62    2793   100.0    59000    7428   1.170  ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP *C                       110.0     48.5     3.14    2792    93.4    48636    9296   1.217
Ramshot X-Terminator *C             90.7     40.9     2.65    2790    99.5    59000    7682   1.154  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-19 *C              110.0     46.5     3.01    2789    92.9    52984    8674   1.182  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester Supreme 780             110.0     49.0     3.18    2787    93.3    56493    8318   1.154  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2230                       88.8     40.6     2.63    2787    99.8    59000    7509   1.162  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N140 *C                 102.5     41.7     2.70    2786   100.0    59000    7405   1.152  ! Near Maximum !
Shooters World AR Plus              87.8     39.8     2.58    2781   100.0    59000    7314   1.166  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D073.4                        87.8     39.8     2.58    2781   100.0    59000    7314   1.166  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N135 *C                 104.4     40.0     2.59    2780   100.0    59000    6948   1.161  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4166 Enduron *C*T              101.8     41.2     2.67    2777    96.5    59000    7848   1.151  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4831                           110.0     44.5     2.89    2776    98.0    51720    8315   1.208  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2210                         86.9     37.9     2.46    2772   100.0    59000    7277   1.154  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S060                          95.2     39.2     2.54    2768    99.6    59000    7445   1.152  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-12                  91.2     39.3     2.55    2767   100.0    59000    7020   1.154  ! Near Maximum !
Shooters World Tactical Rifle       87.4     39.4     2.55    2767    99.9    59000    7315   1.155  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Benchmark                   92.4     38.5     2.49    2764   100.0    59000    7237   1.155  ! Near Maximum !

Thank you Antelope!

TRex, I'll check the search function and see. I didn't want to waste to many doing load work up.

Originally Posted by TRexF16

John Barsness (Posts here as "Mule Deer") found they liked to be a fair bit off the lands. There has been some other discussion here that a search might reveal for you.

Good Luck,
Rex

Monometal bullets like jump

Originally Posted by Esox357

Found some 140 E Tips to try in my 708. No luck finding partitions or ballistic tips. Any loading hints for these? Do they require jump or like to be close to lands?

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Check with Nosler shooters pro shop they have 140ballistic tip blem in stock

Thanks Lonewolf

Originally Posted by Esox357

Thanks Lonewolf

👍🏻

I’d start with 0.05” back and work further away if needed. I use the 140 etips in my 7-08. I like them

Great i got 2 boxes coming. Pricey but everything is now.

Keep in mine these bullets are long for their weight.The only ones I've shot are the 180gr 30cal.The 180gr is about the same length as my 200gr Accubonds.That is one reason you should reduce your load a little for the bullet weight because of the long bearing surface.

Definitely will work up. I will start well below max. I read up on them, they claim less pressure but I keep hearing the opposite?

Originally Posted by Esox357

Definitely will work up. I will start well below max. I read up on them, they claim less pressure but I keep hearing the opposite?

The newer E-tips have two bands milled into them to reduce the bearing surface and minimize the typical increased pressures seen with mono's.

They were supposedly coated with Lubanox or something that supposedly reduces pressure. The ones I got are non banded.

Nosler #9 has a note on E-Tips. Due to internal construction differences always begin with starting loads when using E-Tip products.

Im planning on using Big Game or H4350. I will consult my loading manual.