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Posted By: gitem_12 Varget - 03/20/21
what all is it good for. I relaod for 308, 7mm-08, 30-06 and 280 Rem and 6.5 CM. i am guessing the short action stuff wil be fine with it anyone laod the 30-06 and 280 with it I am not looking for posts of other powders. i know there are other ones thatw ork better. VARGET is what I found and that is the laod data I am looking for
Posted By: mathman Re: Varget - 03/20/21
Varget works nicely for 150 to 168 grain bullets in the 30-06.
Posted By: Wp75169 Re: Varget - 03/20/21
It in my opinion is the best powder for 7-08 and .308 with mid to heavy bullets. I don’t think it’s well suited for the long action calibers listed. The good news is, if you have Varget you can trade it for anything you want and do it in a day usually. It’s possibly the most sought after powder right now.

Mid to lite bullets in the 30-06 might be a good match for the Varget.
Posted By: 10gaugemag Re: Varget - 03/20/21
Should work good with 150s in the '06, just like 4064. Might be okay w 165 grain stuff. I would damn sure try it.

Probably a good powder for 120s in the 280 and work with the 140s as well. Less than ideal but nothi g wrong w it.

Same w the Creedmoor, 120-130 grain bullets. Lightweights too.

Might be the bees knees in the 7-08 & 308. Light to middle weight stuff, possibly excellent with 165/168 in the 30.

Posted By: Puddle Re: Varget - 03/20/21
6.5 CM 120 gr. ELDM. I've yet to tweak it for the 120 gr. GMX.
Posted By: gitem_12 Re: Varget - 03/20/21
just got 4 pounds of IMR 4064 as well. ill go back ondaya nd grab a pound of H1000 for the 7 mag.
Posted By: 84Mtn_EER Re: Varget - 03/20/21
I've had great results in terms of accuracy and velocity using Varget in my 7x57 with 120gr bullets, my 8x57 using it for 150s to 200gr bullets, and It shoots lights out in my 223rem with 55gr to 60gr bullets
Posted By: CascadeJinx Re: Varget - 03/20/21
Originally Posted by gitem_12
what all is it good for. I relaod for 308, 7mm-08, 30-06 and 280 Rem and 6.5 CM. i am guessing the short action stuff wil be fine with it anyone laod the 30-06 and 280 with it I am not looking for posts of other powders. i know there are other ones thatw ork better. VARGET is what I found and that is the laod data I am looking for

I not sure you can find a "laod" smile But I am sure if you do a search in Big Game Rifle reloading section and look for pet or favorite reloads you will find 308 Win, 30-06, 7x57 and other caliber references to provide you with some suggestions for good "load" data.

By the way, spell checker will identify your misspelled words, but it will not automatically correct them for you. That requires you to either click on it to make a change; or substitute another word.

CJ


Posted By: Dustylongshot Re: Varget - 03/22/21
In my experience Varget is very close to IMR 4064's burning speed, so anywhere 4064 works Varget will as well YMMV.
Posted By: Swifty52 Re: Varget - 03/22/21
Had an 8 pound jug of Vargay that sucked donkey balls. Took me 7-8 years to get rid of it. 5 different calibers and not 1 max load that would get within 200 FPS of book velocity. Couldn’t even get 3700 out of a 22.250 w/50 grain Sierras and 38 grains of powder and a mag primer. That stuff was pure junk. Lots of better powders out there than Vargay.
Posted By: Esox357 Re: Varget - 03/22/21
Ive had great luck with Varget. Shines in 308 win! Used it with good results in 9.3x62 and 7mm-08.
Posted By: AKduck Re: Varget - 03/22/21
Done well with it in 223 for heavies.
Posted By: NVhntr Re: Varget - 03/22/21
Originally Posted by Swifty52
Had an 8 pound jug of Vargay that sucked donkey balls. Took me 7-8 years to get rid of it. 5 different calibers and not 1 max load that would get within 200 FPS of book velocity. Couldn’t even get 3700 out of a 22.250 w/50 grain Sierras and 38 grains of powder and a mag primer. That stuff was pure junk. Lots of better powders out there than Vargay.


Some of us chose accuracy over chasing max velocity.
Posted By: mathman Re: Varget - 03/22/21
I've heard of a slow batch of Varget from a number of years ago. I managed to dodge it, and the many lots of Varget I've used over a long time have been fine. Too many top shooters of the 308 Winchester have had winning results with it to condemn it entirely over a bum slow lot.
Posted By: JamesJr Re: Varget - 03/22/21
39.5 grains of Varget and a 40 grain BT shoots like a laser in my 22-250.

Varget and a 168 grain HPBT is as accurate as they come in a 308.

Varget and heavy bullets in a 223 ain't too shabby either.
Posted By: MontanaMan Re: Varget - 03/23/21
Varget is also close to RL-15 in performance & burn rate.

It will work in all the cartridges the OP mentioned, including the 280 with lighter bullets, especially.

MM
Posted By: CRS Re: Varget - 03/23/21
I have used Varget with great results in:
22-250 with 53gr TSX at 3800fps
200-210gr bullets out my 338-06 in the 2800-2850fps range.
and recently stellar results out of my 416 Remington with 350gr TSX's at 2575fps.
Posted By: RiverRider Re: Varget - 03/23/21
Originally Posted by MontanaMan
Varget is also close to RL-15 in performance & burn rate.

It will work in all the cartridges the OP mentioned, including the 280 with lighter bullets, especially.

MM



My thoughts too. I might be thinking 120-grain Ballistic Tips and maybe some Barnes products if I wanted to hunt .280 and only had Varget available to me.
Posted By: ghostrider272 Re: Varget - 03/23/21
Anyone have any comparisons for Varget and IMR 4320? Heard they are close and I have a couple pounds of it kicking around.
Posted By: Swifty52 Re: Varget - 03/23/21
Originally Posted by NVhntr
Originally Posted by Swifty52
Had an 8 pound jug of Vargay that sucked donkey balls. Took me 7-8 years to get rid of it. 5 different calibers and not 1 max load that would get within 200 FPS of book velocity. Couldn’t even get 3700 out of a 22.250 w/50 grain Sierras and 38 grains of powder and a mag primer. That stuff was pure junk. Lots of better powders out there than Vargay.


Some of us chose accuracy over chasing max velocity.



Supposition with no direct knowledge of, or basis in fact typical fire that people open mouth without careful thought.
If in fact there had been any accuracy at all, it really wouldn’t matter. There wasn’t. You can’t get any accuracy when you have ES consistently in the 150 + FPS and SD’s running 75-80 FPS. I consistently leave velocity on the table. But more obvious is the fact that you couldn’t comprehend that max load is 36 grains and I was 2 grains over, I was crunching kernels and still couldn’t get that sh*t to work. Good luck next time on your perceptions being based more on fact instead of fantasy.

Originally Posted by mathman
I've heard of a slow batch of Varget from a number of years ago. I managed to dodge it, and the many lots of Varget I've used over a long time have been fine. Too many top shooters of the 308 Winchester have had winning results with it to condemn it entirely over a bum slow lot.


Yes it was a bad lot, 220 Swift w/26 inch tube, Norma brass, 37 grains Vargay and CCI mag primer. I had a fireball 1 foot out the tube and velocity was off by 250 FPS. So yes it was Slowwwwwwww.
Posted By: gnoahhh Re: Varget - 03/23/21
Ok, you got a weird batch of old Varget. Don't discount it based on one experience. That would be like saying F-150's are junk because you got a lemon in 1999.
Posted By: SheriffJoe Re: Varget - 03/23/21
Originally Posted by Swifty52
Had an 8 pound jug of Vargay that sucked donkey balls. Took me 7-8 years to get rid of it. 5 different calibers and not 1 max load that would get within 200 FPS of book velocity. Couldn’t even get 3700 out of a 22.250 w/50 grain Sierras and 38 grains of powder and a mag primer. That stuff was pure junk. Lots of better powders out there than Vargay.



Hheh hehh...he said "book velocity" !
Posted By: alpinecrick Re: Varget - 03/24/21
Originally Posted by gitem_12
what all is it good for. I relaod for 308, 7mm-08, 30-06 and 280 Rem and 6.5 CM. i am guessing the short action stuff wil be fine with it anyone laod the 30-06 and 280 with it I am not looking for posts of other powders. i know there are other ones thatw ork better. VARGET is what I found and that is the laod data I am looking for




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Posted By: Elvis Re: Varget - 03/24/21
Originally Posted by gitem_12
what all is it good for. I relaod for 308, 7mm-08, 30-06 and 280 Rem and 6.5 CM. i am guessing the short action stuff wil be fine with it anyone laod the 30-06 and 280 with it I am not looking for posts of other powders. i know there are other ones thatw ork better. VARGET is what I found and that is the laod data I am looking for



I'm using it in my .35 Whelen with 225gn Accubond, 9.3x62 with 250gn Woodleigh, .303B with 174gn Hornady RN. Also good in .308, 8x57.
Posted By: boatanchor Re: Varget - 03/24/21
Varget came out in 1995, apparently I bought enough to last more than 20 years. I ran out a few years ago and was very disappointed with the new lot of Varget.
1995 was pre "EXTREME" era, wonder if the additional coatings is what fouled things up
Posted By: RiverRider Re: Varget - 03/24/21
Originally Posted by Elvis

I'm using it in my .35 Whelen with 225gn Accubond...



Ditto. Works very well, as does Re15.
Posted By: lastround Re: Varget - 03/25/21
My 308’s have all liked Varget, including my current one, for 150 to 165 gr. Bullets. It’s my powder of choice shooting 120 gr BT’s out of the 6.5 Creedmoor. I prefer Big Game or RL15 in my 7mm-08’s, but Varget will work in a pinch. It also works in 223 if you shoot heavier bullets. In my opinion, a very useful powder.
Posted By: Uncas Re: Varget - 04/01/21
I am happy with Varget and 150 TSX bullets in 30'06. In fact it is a GREAT choice in 308 it is THE POWDWER for Palma with 155 bullets at 3000 fps, brass takes a beating but that is what the winners use ( about 3 grains over max) It was easily my best forheavy loads in 35Whelen.( top loads ten of them tested side by side with REloader 15 onlty one bullet powder (225 Sierra/ RE15) was superior. Four 416s have liked Varget best of all. OK in 6.5 CM with light bullets (for 130s my guns excel with 414) (140s really like Superformance.) Varget is my only powder in 30/40 Krag /150 grain bullets (Contenders in 14" and 22")
Posted By: Oldman03 Re: Varget - 04/01/21
Originally Posted by NVhntr
Originally Posted by Swifty52
Had an 8 pound jug of Vargay that sucked donkey balls. Took me 7-8 years to get rid of it. 5 different calibers and not 1 max load that would get within 200 FPS of book velocity. Couldn’t even get 3700 out of a 22.250 w/50 grain Sierras and 38 grains of powder and a mag primer. That stuff was pure junk. Lots of better powders out there than Vargay.


Some of us chose accuracy over chasing max velocity.


This ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Posted By: Pharmseller Re: Varget - 04/02/21
Originally Posted by NVhntr


Some of us chose accuracy over chasing max velocity.



Some of us want both.

Why else handload?



P
Posted By: richj Re: Varget - 04/02/21
Agree - Varget and AR-Comp with 155 palmas in 308
Posted By: Wishbone Re: Varget - 04/04/21
Man, Varget in my .22-250's is big medicine.
I use 37.5 grs over a 50 gr VMAX and it shoots dime sized groups in not one, not two, but three of my rifles.
I'm chronographing them at an average of 3835 fps. And all 3 rifles shoot that load like gangbusters.
Verified by me, my chronograph, a stack of targets, and a couple of pickup loads of dead prairie dogs and coyotes.
I'm suspect that the only reason my fourth .22-250 doesn't shoot that load well is because I've not yet tried it in that particular rifle.
I must be living right. I've found the magic potion that shoots in 3 of my rifles. And it involves Varget powder.

WB
Posted By: hookeye Re: Varget - 04/04/21
I inherited a .22-250 and a 219 D wasp......and 2 lbs of Varget.

Will try to work up a load for the .22-250.
The 219 has a load already with it.

Thanks for the heads up. I really like using a couple powders for multiple rigs.

4350 and varget should do all I need
Posted By: Hammerdown Re: Varget - 04/16/21
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Posted By: okie john Re: Varget - 04/16/21
45.8 grains of Varget, Nosler 165-grain Partition, WW cases, CCI 200 primers does 2,700 fps on the nose in my 22" 308 and stays sub-MOA out to 300 yards. I haven't had a chance to try it farther.

If I could only have one powder for the 308, then it would definitely be Varget.


Okie John
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