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Posted By: Houser52 Powder… I messed up. - 12/06/22
Well, I was putting together a few 260 Remington loads and dispensing Ramshot Hunter out of my Uniflow. I then weigh each charge on my RCBS ChargeMaster scale to verify the charge weight. On the last case I had forgot to move the powder funnel to the next case and double charged the case. No big deal I’ll just dump it back in the Uniflow and drop another charge into the pan. The only problem was that I dumped the Ramshot Hunter powder into my ChargeMaster hopper with about 1/2 pound of H4350 in it.

With the H4350 being stick powder and the Hunter being a ball powder I figured it wouldn’t be too hard to separate. I ran to the store and bought a piece of the finest mesh I could find to use as a sifter. After sifting the mixed powder several times I separated out 86 grains of the 90 grains of the mixed in Hunter powder.

Would I have any problem using the 1/2 pound of H4350 with the possibility of 3 grains of Ramshot Hunter mixed in?
Posted By: HuntnShoot Re: Powder… I messed up. - 12/06/22
I don't think you'd notice it if you put all 4 grains of Hunter lost in the 4350 in one case, balance 4350, and shot it next to a case charged with 4350.
3 grains is not going to hurt anything. However, I don't know why you went from the uni flow to the chargemaster to weigh each powder charge. Hunter powder drops like water out of my uni flow. All you need to do is get the uni flow set to drop the proper charge weight and rock on. Your system is flawed and if you would have been doing it properly, that would not have happened.
Posted By: Houser52 Re: Powder… I messed up. - 12/06/22
Thanks HuntnShoot, I didn’t think it would hurt anything but just wanted to be sure.



Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
3 grains is not going to hurt anything. However, I don't know why you went from the uni flow to the chargemaster to weigh each powder charge. Hunter powder drops like water out of my uni flow. All you need to do is get the uni flow set to drop the proper charge weight and rock on. Your system is flawed and if you would have been doing it properly, that would not have happened.

You are correct, the Hunter does meter like water and it throws each charge on the money each time. I maybe a little OCD but my system is not flawed. It’s just the way I like to properly do things when I reload and have done so for the last 45 years.
Posted By: Dale K Re: Powder… I messed up. - 12/06/22
Gotta agree with bsa. If you have two powders on the bench at the same time, your system is flawed. Plus I never leave powder in the hopper. When I’m done loading, the powder goes back in the can.

Dale
As the others have stated, you will be fine. Stuff happens...I'm currently shooting up a lb of Varget mixed with about a 1/4 lb of H4895.
Posted By: NVhntr Re: Powder… I messed up. - 12/06/22
Originally Posted by Dale K
Gotta agree with bsa. If you have two powders on the bench at the same time, your system is flawed. Plus I never leave powder in the hopper. When I’m done loading, the powder goes back in the can.

Dale

Yep, this^^. ChargeMaster gets emptied and powder put away before I move on to anything else. He was asking for trouble.
Posted By: gnoahhh Re: Powder… I messed up. - 12/06/22
Originally Posted by Dale K
Gotta agree with bsa. If you have two powders on the bench at the same time, your system is flawed. Plus I never leave powder in the hopper. When I’m done loading, the powder goes back in the can.

Dale

Ditto.
Posted By: Houser52 Re: Powder… I messed up. - 12/06/22
Ok guys point taken. Only one powder on the bench at a time. Thanks.
Posted By: HuntnShoot Re: Powder… I messed up. - 12/06/22
Originally Posted by Houser52
Ok guys point taken. Only one powder on the bench at a time. Thanks.
Oh no, you aren't getting away that easily!

If you don't do things the way I do, YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG!!!!
Posted By: Houser52 Re: Powder… I messed up. - 12/06/22
Originally Posted by HuntnShoot
Originally Posted by Houser52
Ok guys point taken. Only one powder on the bench at a time. Thanks.
Oh no, you aren't getting away that easily!

If you don't do things the way I do, YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG!!!!


Lol. I’ve been on forum long enough and learned to not talk back.
Posted By: HuntnShoot Re: Powder… I messed up. - 12/06/22
Originally Posted by Houser52
Originally Posted by HuntnShoot
Originally Posted by Houser52
Ok guys point taken. Only one powder on the bench at a time. Thanks.
Oh no, you aren't getting away that easily!

If you don't do things the way I do, YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG!!!!


Lol. I’ve been on forum long enough and learned to not talk back.
Smart man. Smarter than I am, anyway.
Posted By: VarmintGuy Re: Powder… I messed up. - 12/11/22
Houser52: Dang more human error on display - done worse myself.
Yeah shake that can up and use it - I say.
The price (and availability!) of powders these days I would use it.
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy
Posted By: Seafire Re: Powder… I messed up. - 12/12/22
Paying attention, and not being on cruise control at the load bench, pays a lot of dividends....

rule number one I chose for myself... ONE powder on the bench at a time.....and one caliber/cartridge at a time, even if I am using the same powder...
Posted By: drop_point Re: Powder… I messed up. - 12/12/22
Originally Posted by Seafire
Paying attention, and not being on cruise control at the load bench, pays a lot of dividends....

rule number one I chose for myself... ONE powder on the bench at a time.....and one caliber/cartridge at a time, even if I am using the same powder...


I follow this rule as well. I also label my dispensers with what powder is in them and set the cannister next to it.
Posted By: drop_point Re: Powder… I messed up. - 12/12/22
Another good reason to keep your powder put away as soon as you're finished with it, sitting in a hopper it will absorb moisture and weigh slightly more.
Originally Posted by Dale K
Gotta agree with bsa. If you have two powders on the bench at the same time, your system is flawed. Plus I never leave powder in the hopper. When I’m done loading, the powder goes back in the can.

Dale

Agreed.
Just asking for trouble.
Posted By: LFC Re: Powder… I messed up. - 12/12/22
Originally Posted by Seafire
Paying attention, and not being on cruise control at the load bench, pays a lot of dividends....

rule number one I chose for myself... ONE powder on the bench at a time.....and one caliber/cartridge at a time, even if I am using the same powder...

Same advice I always followed.
Posted By: Klikitarik Re: Powder… I messed up. - 12/13/22
The question I have is, who can afford more than one container of powder or even find them?
Posted By: sourdough44 Re: Powder… I messed up. - 12/16/22
Wasn’t it a ‘thing’ for some to go ‘duplex’? The idea being to mix a few powders at a certain rate to achieve the pinnacle of an accuracy node?

I thought there were those that tried to outsmart the powder companies. Maybe it was just incoherent blather at the gun counter? I could just see someone mixing powders of a similar rate then grousing over the accuracy.
Posted By: AU338MAG Re: Powder… I messed up. - 12/16/22
Originally Posted by gnoahhh
Originally Posted by Dale K
Gotta agree with bsa. If you have two powders on the bench at the same time, your system is flawed. Plus I never leave powder in the hopper. When I’m done loading, the powder goes back in the can.

Dale

Ditto.
One of the most important safety rules that my father taught me almost 40 years ago when I started loading with him.

Only ONE powder on the bench and place the container next to the powder measure.
Posted By: 450BM Re: Powder… I messed up. - 12/17/22
Originally Posted by BBouncer5150
As the others have stated, you will be fine. Stuff happens...I'm currently shooting up a lb of Varget mixed with about a 1/4 lb of H4895.

Hopefully this isn’t the best shooting loads you’ve ever had! You’ll have to mix the powder like that again if it is. lol
Posted By: 450BM Re: Powder… I messed up. - 12/17/22
Originally Posted by sourdough44
Wasn’t it a ‘thing’ for some to go ‘duplex’? The idea being to mix a few powders at a certain rate to achieve the pinnacle of an accuracy node?

I thought there were those that tried to outsmart the powder companies. Maybe it was just incoherent blather at the gun counter? I could just see someone mixing powders of a similar rate then grousing over the accuracy.

I’ve never done it and never will. Sure it’s done (I’ve read some about guys making tri-plex loads too) but holy hell, some guns it’s hard enough trying to find the one powder that shoots perfect. Don’t even want to think about trying to find the correct duplex load! Cost of components could send me to the poor house in a hurry, not to mention the time.
Posted By: selmer Re: Powder… I messed up. - 12/17/22
Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
3 grains is not going to hurt anything. However, I don't know why you went from the uni flow to the chargemaster to weigh each powder charge. Hunter powder drops like water out of my uni flow. All you need to do is get the uni flow set to drop the proper charge weight and rock on. Your system is flawed and if you would have been doing it properly, that would not have happened.

When I started reloading 30ish years ago, dad taught me to trickle every charge up to the exact weight. We used what I would regard now as a sketchy Herter's powder measure. Fast forward about 10 years and I started talking to guys who simply set their powder measure to the average weight and then charged cases without measuring every one. Not believing this could possible result in the same level of precision we had by measuring each charge (just shooting hunting rifles, so MOA was good enough and 1/2 MOA was a great load), I did a side by side of each method with our favorite .30-06, .243, and .308 Win. loads using a Lyman 55 powder measure. Ten shot groups of each method with each gun at both 100 and 200 yards from a bench and went three for three with the average method (which I understand is referred to more of a volumetric measurement than weight/mass measurement) being the clear winner for group size at both 100 and 200 yards. I was sold. The only powder that I would use a trickler on these days is 4064 and I generally avoid using it because of this, though it's an excellent and versatile powder. I've since purchased a Harrel's powder measure because it's like operating greased glass, but the 55 still has a place on my bench for very small charges of pistol powder.
Posted By: boatboy Re: Powder… I messed up. - 12/17/22
This is a very good read for anyone

I liked don’t get on cruise control
Hank
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