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Posted By: Otter6 Barnes LRX? - 07/16/18
Does the Barnes LRX have a deeper cavity than the regular TTSX. Curious about expansion at the lower velocity of longer shot distances.
Posted By: memtb Re: Barnes LRX? - 07/17/18
I may be incorrect, but I believe that they are virtually identical. The LRX is shaped slightly different to maximize BC! memtb
Posted By: Otter6 Re: Barnes LRX? - 07/17/18
Well crap.
Posted By: Otter6 Re: Barnes LRX? - 07/17/18
I guess the retained velocity should be better. That would help.
Posted By: Jordan Smith Re: Barnes LRX? - 07/17/18
The LRX is designed to expand down to 1600fps instead of 1800-2000 fps like the TTSX. I don't know the design details that cause this difference, but that's the claim that I've seen Barnes make.
Posted By: Mule Deer Re: Barnes LRX? - 07/17/18
If I recall correctly, the front end is annealed to be softer.
Posted By: 358wsm Re: Barnes LRX? - 07/17/18
Originally Posted by Mule Deer
If I recall correctly, the front end is annealed to be softer.



But wouldn't that cause the little plastic tip to melt.? grin
Posted By: Otter6 Re: Barnes LRX? - 07/17/18
Originally Posted by Mule Deer
If I recall correctly, the front end is annealed to be softer.


That would be great. I've got 3 different weights,in two calibers in a shopping cart. Might just order them.
Posted By: memtb Re: Barnes LRX? - 07/17/18
Well....darn it! Should have researched prior to answering. My apology!

Also, angers me that after years of asking Barnes for a much better ( weight and BC) bullet for my rifle, I gave up, developed a load with a bullet ( too light) I really didn’t like (a better long range bullet), had my turrets built for my Leupold CDX......then they bring out a slightly ( weight and BC) better bullet. And now, after buying a bunch, while on sale.......I find out it should give better expansion at extended ranges. What a depressing way to start the day! memtb
Posted By: Otter6 Re: Barnes LRX? - 07/17/18
The light for caliber monos sure flatten out the trajectory. I'm looking for single digit corrections out to 400 yards. Either the 270 Win,or 280 AI. THE 110 TTSX in .277,and 120 TTSX IN .284 deliver the flat trajectory,but not much of a BC or SD.The LRX seems.like a fair compromise provided it will open.at lower velocities. Can't guarantee connecting with bone for.insurance.
Posted By: memtb Re: Barnes LRX? - 07/17/18
Originally Posted by Otter6
The light for caliber monos sure flatten out the trajectory. I'm looking for single digit corrections out to 400 yards. Either the 270 Win,or 280 AI. THE 110 TTSX in .277,and 120 TTSX IN .284 deliver the flat trajectory,but not much of a BC or SD.The LRX seems.like a fair compromise provided it will open.at lower velocities. Can't guarantee connecting with bone for.insurance.


With the 20 grain increase in bullet weight.....”if” I don’t lose too much muzzle velocity, given the gain in BC and the expansion at lower velocities, I’m guessing I could potentially add 100 to 150 yards to my maximum effective range. If I can keep the 270 grain LRX somewhere around 3100 fps, it should be a strong downrange performer. Wishful thinking, at least! memtb
Posted By: Fotis Re: Barnes LRX? - 07/17/18
Originally Posted by memtb
Originally Posted by Otter6
The light for caliber monos sure flatten out the trajectory. I'm looking for single digit corrections out to 400 yards. Either the 270 Win,or 280 AI. THE 110 TTSX in .277,and 120 TTSX IN .284 deliver the flat trajectory,but not much of a BC or SD.The LRX seems.like a fair compromise provided it will open.at lower velocities. Can't guarantee connecting with bone for.insurance.


With the 20 grain increase in bullet weight.....”if” I don’t lose too much muzzle velocity, given the gain in BC and the expansion at lower velocities, I’m guessing I could potentially add 100 to 150 yards to my maximum effective range. If I can keep the 270 grain LRX somewhere around 3100 fps, it should be a strong downrange performer. Wishful thinking, at least! memtb

270 grain??? What are you shooting
Posted By: Otter6 Re: Barnes LRX? - 07/17/18
A nice man at Barnes answered my email. He said the LRX does infact have a different nose cavity to promote long range expansion. Who wants to section one?
Posted By: AussieGunWriter Re: Barnes LRX? - 07/17/18
It would pay to remind handloaders to expect that some rifles will not like a chosen bullet.
We tend to avoid that subject here but I have loaded most of the bullets listed here and have a 7x57 that loves the 145LRX and hates the 110TTSX. Have a .280AI that loves the 110TTSX and hates the 140LRX.

We may steer life choices, but we cannot control the pot holes.

John
Posted By: RMerta Re: Barnes LRX? - 07/17/18
My Sendero in .264 Win Mag loooooves the 120 TTSX. I’ve yet to run them through a chrono but they are smoking by a maximum load of retumbo. I will try the LRX soon. I’m formulating a load for mule deer and antelope.
Posted By: prairie_goat Re: Barnes LRX? - 07/17/18
I just noticed the 6mm 95 grain LRX. Sounds like a helluva elk bullet for the medium to large 6mm rounds - at least for the rifles with quick enough twist to stabilize the bullet.
Posted By: Dogshooter Re: Barnes LRX? - 07/17/18
The 6.5mm 127 has shot like a champ out of a couple .260s and a Creed. We’ve only shot coyotes and steel with them thus far, but they’ll be loaded in my wife’s rifle for deer and antelope this fall..... kids may use it on elk too.
Posted By: memtb Re: Barnes LRX? - 07/18/18
.375 AI. Getting 3130 fps with the 250 TTSX, not quite maxed out! Went to 3160 fps, but the groups were starting to open up, so backed-up to 3130 fps. Thinking that 3100 is at least theoretically possible! memtb
Posted By: prairie_goat Re: Barnes LRX? - 07/18/18
Originally Posted by memtb
Thinking that 3100 is at least theoretically possible! memtb

At 70K+ psi.
Posted By: prairie_goat Re: Barnes LRX? - 07/18/18
But you can probably get about whatever velocity you want. Once.

Running a 375 AI at 378 Weatherby velocities is a fool's errand.
Posted By: memtb Re: Barnes LRX? - 07/18/18
Assuming that my chrono is accurate, and am getting 10 or more reloads on my brass before discarding.....it must not be too bad! I guess time will tell! Maybe 3000 fps is more reasonable, for the 270’s ....won’t know until it’s tried!
Been loading it pretty warm since 1990, it’s still in one piece! memtb
Posted By: Bugger Re: Barnes LRX? - 07/19/18
Originally Posted by memtb
Assuming that my chrono is accurate, and am getting 10 or more reloads on my brass before discarding.....it must not be too bad! I guess time will tell! Maybe 3000 fps is more reasonable, for the 270’s ....won’t know until it’s tried!
Been loading it pretty warm since 1990, it’s still in one piece! memtb


I have a 375 AI. Didn’t know it was capable of that. But alas, I don’t get to shoot it at appropriate game enough. I’d love to change that.
Posted By: memtb Re: Barnes LRX? - 07/19/18
Bugger, It is my only hunting rifle.....been that way since March 1990! You need to use yours more......you’ll quickly learn to love it! memtb
Posted By: Fotis Re: Barnes LRX? - 07/19/18
Originally Posted by prairie_goat
But you can probably get about whatever velocity you want. Once.

Running a 375 AI at 378 Weatherby velocities is a fool's errand.


I agree. Believe me I have 30 years experience with the 378. The 375 Rum maxes out at 2950 with the 270 gr and a bit over 3000 with the 250 gr.
Posted By: Lucas1 Re: Barnes LRX? - 07/19/18
I tried the 6.5mm 127 lrx when they first came out in my 6.5x55. I shot a whitetail doe around 70 yards. I hit it right behind the shoulder. She ran for 80 to 90 yards without a single drop of blood I could find. I just happened to walk up on her. I never tried them again. The 120 or 130 grain barnes does much more damage.
Posted By: kman Re: Barnes LRX? - 07/20/18
According to Barnes the 30 cal 168gr ttsx expands down to 1500fps.
Posted By: 358wsm Re: Barnes LRX? - 07/20/18
Originally Posted by kman
According to Barnes the 30 cal 168gr ttsx expands down to 1500fps.



A bit long, but if that expansion velocity is correct, THAT might make a Great 300 Savage bullet for "Bigger Than Deer" game.
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