Just recently purchased a used New Haven Conn. CRF stainless Win in 270 Win. 24" bbl. Like new cond. I have several other cal's I load for but never a 270. Your loading info especially if chronographed would be most appreciated. I have ample supplies of Rel 19 & 22. Accurate 4350. H 4831. H-Retumbo. IMR 7828 . Win 760/H-414. If you have loads with these particular powders that would be helpful. Also have lesser amounts of other powders. Willing to try other powders for max safe loads. My bullet of choice is the Barnes 129 LRX.

130gr Nosler Partition 60.0 H4831SC

3100 almost exactly out of my 22" Custom Ottmar/Grisel as measured by lab radar.

I never shot the Barnes out of that rifle but let me look, I may have shot the 130 TSX out of a Biesen I once owned.

59.5 H4831SC and the 130 TTSX chronoed 3075 out of the Biesen. Interestingly, 60g jumped the velocity up over 3,200 fps.

64.0gr of Magpro and the TTSX gave just over 3,100 with excellent extreme spreads.

Do appreciate your info it is great . Thanks so much. I have had such great performance with the Barnes mono's on elk over the years I prefer to stick with them.

Excellent bullet!

Or just about any other good 130gr bullet.....

My daughter's Rem. 700 ADL shoots either 130gr. Hornady SP or 130gr. Barnes TTSX to the same point with 55.0gr. IMR-4350 in Rem cases and WIN LR primers seated to factory length. Velocity average is 3050fps out of her 24" barrel.

Depending on what we are after determines which ammo gets loaded in the magazine.

Elk Country

I get 3050fps from H4831 and Barnes 130TTSX at about 60gr. Could go higher but accuracy was so good it didn't seem worth it. This from a BACO FWT. Tried several other powders and some of the new Enduron stuff and none of it was as accurate as the H4831.
My next endeavor is ELDX and RL26 if I can ever find some.

I've tested all of the powders you list and had fairly good accuracy and velocity results...

Then when I go hunting with the Model 70 in 270 I use, I reach for the can of 4064 and a 140 grain Nosler Ballistic Tip....which just seems to work...

old habits die hard...

My pet loads for .270 run 150gr projectiles pushed by 57 grains of IMR7828.

150 SST and 150 Grand Slam - depending on what I am trying to kill. Typical (chronyed) velocities are 2850-2900 from a 22" Savage 111.

The SST load is .75 MOA. The Grand Slam is more like 1.5 MOA but more than good enough for moose and elk at "reasonable" distances.

I don't think the 7828 will mix well at all with the 129 LRX though (7828 shines with heavy-for-caliber bullets), so my info is basically irrelevant.

I do appreciate all your help. . This is my first 270 so looking for solid info. I have a considerable amount of once fired brass I collected over the years from here & there. Seems most 270's are 22" bbl's so was surprised to find this CRF 24" version. The rule of thump is about 35fps per inch over 22''. So will see. I can do some choreographing now but I've got so much snow I will not be able to use my range till at least the middle of March. Spent 4 hrs this morning plowing my road so I can get out.


"Those who fail to learn from the past are doomed to live it again."
Winston Churchill

I tried H4831SC and accuracy was acceptable with 130's excellent with 150's. N560 produced the best accuracy with light bullets 110 and 130's in my rifle.

Good luck and shot straight y'all.

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Any one use the Nosler E-Tip?

Work up slowly. Due to the longer bearing surface, you can reach max with mid range loads.

Thanks Sniper. I have years of experience with the Barnes bullets but zero with the Nosler E-Tip. The price is really great with the E-T seconds but means nothing if their not the equal of the Barnes .

Old school here. IMR 4350 for the 130.

7828 for the 150.

Even played with some 110s.

58.0gr of RL23 140gr Accubond WLR primer Win case 3.270 OAL. 3052 fps SD 11.0 5 shots shot from 1952 model 70.
load also worked good with Federal Trophy Bonded Tipped. This is the load I use on all my 270,s

Very nice, , absolutely very nice. Thanks guy's. Much appreciated.

I use IMR 4350 also with 130’s. Partition or ballistic tips. Barnes 130’s would be outstanding also!

For my Browning A-Bolt

Winchester case
CCI 200
53.2 gr IMR 4350
140 gr. Hornady BTSP

I believe my velocity was around 2800 FPS out of a 22" barrel. Very accurate in my rifle though.

My favorite is:

Winchester case
CCI 200
55.0 gr IMR 4350
130 gr. Speer Grand Slam

Another vote for 4350, however I will be trying some RL17, which has a burn rate similar to that of 4350. RL 17, has a good performance “track record”! memtb

60gr of Reloader 22 under a Nosler 130 AB in my Ruger #1B. Loads average about 3160 out of the 26" barrel, and accuracy is excellent. Start a couple grains lower, and work up.

I do want to try both R23 and R26 in it, as well.

Any bullet .277 diameter and RL26...stuff is magic in my 270

RL22 is a top powder and shot excellent with great velocity with 130s. It'd be one of the first powders I tried. Ramshot Hunter did well for me too.

My Tikka likes 61g of H4831 and either 130g Interlocks or Partitions. Velocity is right at 3100fps. Hornady shoot into a dime and the Partitions into a nickel. Couldn’t get accubonds to do better than moa. Don’t feel motivated to look much further for a dandy deer load.

Sounds like a good load.

Decide what velocity you want to strive for first. From what I have read, the .270 was originally loaded to about 3160 fps (with 130 grain bullets), then for several decades loaded to less than 3000 fps, and now upped to about 3060 fps. All this from a 24 inch barrel.

If you want to go to 3160 fps, then RL16 seems a good choice.

For 3060 fps, I am using Hodgdon Hybrid 100.

If you are happy with 2990 fps, then IMR4350 is as good as any.

From another post I started:

With 130 grain Sierra Game Kings, W-W cases, and Tula large rifle primers, OAL of 3.255", and from a 24 inch barrel. I got these results.

51.0/2877

51.5/2911

52.0/2965

52.5/2977

53.0/2999

53.5/3021

54.0/3045

54.5/3088

55.0/3099

55.5/3129

56.0/3167

Pressure seemed okay until the 56.0 load when one of the three cases produced a little difficult bolt lift. accuracy was good with all the loads.

RL16

With 130 grain Sierra Game Kings, R-P cases, and Tula large rifle primers, and OAL of 3.255" I got these results.

50.0/2856

50.5/2903

51.0/2924

51.5/2977

52.0/3003

52.5/3025

53.0/3057

53.5/3090

54.0/3103

54.5/3146

55.0/3196

55.5/3223

postoak,
What's your barrel length?

I use 60.0 grains H-4831 with a 130 grain Swift A-Frame with a average velocity of 3130fps from a 22" barrel. The same powder and weight with a 130 grain Trophy Bonded Tip has the average velocity of 3070 fps from the same barrel length.

57gr RL-22 under 150gr partitions has been good in several 270's for me, I always use CCI-250 primers and WW brass, velocities run 29-2950, col's vary with throat/rifle mag box length, have always seated bullets to max, guessing it's the hardest and fastest killing white tail load I've ever used, most drop, those that ran never went out of sight.

This is in a 24 inch Vanguard S2.

Hey there elk hunter. Since i have lot's of H-4831 That's what I will start with. I have ordered some Barnes .277 129gr LRX bullets. These Barnes bullets in my 6.5's have given me complete penetration on elk over the years .Always deadly accurate & never failed me. They should also be devastating in the 270. My rifle has a 24" Bbl. so maybe 70 or so more FPS ( 35 fps per inch ) over a 22". Will see. I can chronograph now but my range is covered with about 30" of snow. That'a just part of leaving at 7630' elevation.
I can't thank all of you enough for your help. . This is my first 270 so you info, all of it is invaluable.

Pre-64 Win m70. 270 Win

Just under max load Accurate 3100 + 150 grain Hornady flatbase.

Produced 5 shot groups at 200 (two hundred) yards that would be covered by a US quarter.

In my Rem 700CDL with 24" bbl, I use 60.5gns RL26 and a 140gn Nosler Accubond for a 15 shot average of 3102fps. I've also used near max loads of H1000, W760, W780Supreme, RL17, RL19, RL22, H4350 and H4831sc but RL26 gave the greatest velocity but around 100fps. RL22 and W780 Supreme were the best of the rest.

59 gr. H4831 under a 130 gr Sierra Game King w/CCI Lg RFL Primer in Winchester cases. Giving 3/8 In. @100 in my Browning 270 A Bolt. Killed 9 Whitetails with this load and none went further than 20 steps.

58gr of H4831, Hornandy Brass (hate it), CCI LR Primer, 150gr Sierra Game King. AVG MV 3006 fps, 24bbl Remington 700. Shoots AVG groups just under and inch @100 yards

Shot an 8point this year at 50 yards and almost blew him in half. Total bullet failure (bullet selection failure). A man in a stetson could have stuck his head in the exit wound and not dirtied his hat.

I also ran IMR4350. However, I used it for both 130's and 150's...

This was shot from a featherweight rifle. It shot around moa consistently for 5 shot groups:



RL26 also worked exceptionally well with the 150gr. Nosler partition...

Involves 4064 and 130 or 140 gr Ballistic Tips

or 4831SC for the 160 grain Nosler SMP...

Fixed it for you..

I use RL26 with 145gr eld-x I was shooting 1 1/2 groups at 300 yard group..

As per Jack O’Connor and tested in the Oct/Nov issue of Handloader,

49.5 gr of IMR 4064 with any 130 grain bullet with a COAL of 3.250”.. will give a velocity of close to 3000 FPS with awesome accuracy and mild recoil.

This has become my favorite truck gun load.

Todd

Nope I run the 160 SMP and in the 06, the 220 SMP partition....

Old school....

Starting with "back in the day......" or "back in 79"

Yep, I have yet to find a 270 that H4831 didn't produce great groups and velocity with most bullets. But I only have four 270's so what do I know......

Actually it starts with...

back in 69, when I was young and good looking, having to beat the girls off with a baseball bat...
and grandpa had given me his 1936 Model 70, made in 270 Win, and his 1927 made Model 54 in 30 Government.....and were my favorite two possessions, next to my 1969 SS 396 Chevelle.....Blue with white stripes and the Hurst 4 on the Floor...

As Justahunter noted, 4064 works pretty well in 270's, and is probably unfortunate that it is generally overlooked in recent times, When I got into 270's and reloading, about 50 years ago, 4060 was a commonly used powder in the 270.

I'm odd man out. I have four too (3 M700s and an M70) and have shot a lot of different powders and bullets in them. The M700s all shot both RL22 and Ramshot Hunter faster and more accurately. My M70 I havent worked with as much so can't say definitively until I do some more shooting when the weather cooperates, but it shoots the 130 Paritions with Magpro excellent at nearly 3200 fps.

I have owned more than ten 270s and have always used IMR 4350 or IMR 4831 in them, mostly because the late Ed Matunas said to use them in his handloading articles in American Hunter back in the 1980s. Anywhere from 54 to 56 grains of either IMR or H 4350 has worked well for me with 130 grain bullets. Two more grains of IMR 4831 works as well and is generally 50 fps faster. I have always used the 4350s as I had lots of it around. My current (and only) 270 has a custom Shilen 24" barrel. 55 grains of 4350 gives me over 3,100 fps and excellent accuracy with Barnes TSX bullets. I have Mag Pro and RL-26 and will have to try them for some more velocity.

There is nothing wrong with using the Reloder powders or good old H 4831. I just happened to use 4350 first and stuck with it.

Damn nice car!

The snow finally melted back enough for me to set up my chronograph. Win 70 stainless CRF 24" Bbl. Using 59 grs H-4831 gave me a disappointing 3059fps with the Barnes 129gr LRX.. Switching to Rel-19 57grs gave me 3114fps right off. This is a light load for this rifle. Stepping up to 58grs I shot my years old chronograph into several pieces. Easy bolt lift , Not the slightest sign of pressure. Barnes manual shows 3211 FPS with a max load 59.5grs. Will resume when my new chrono gets here. Stay tuned..

That sucks...what did you buy to replace it?

OK. Bought a new Caldwell Ballistic chronograph. Today finally got to shoot again . This 270 load is right out of the Barnes manual. Also is a max load in the Barnes manual. 129 gr Barnes LRX. I used 59.5gr Rel 19. Win 70 270 24" Bbl. Win brass, Win LR primer. 12' in front of chrono. 3259 fps. Barnes manual used federal 210M primers. This velocity is getting into 270 WSM territory. Manual shows 3211fps so my rifles shoots slightly faster. BC of this bullet is .469. I find this load very satisfying. Still to much snow for me to use my range. Maybe in a week or two. Good accuracy will be the cherry on top of this rifle. Might add the Barnes manual list this load with their 130gr TSX/TTSX bullet. The LRX because it is a longer bullet than the TSX has a little less bullet body contacting the rifling , This allows it to have less friction & slipperier going down the barrel. Hope this info is of interest to you 270 shooters out there. Remember, squeeze that trigger.

I'm using 140 SST in front of 55gr. of Hunter with CCI primers. I measure to the ogive. 2.665.
velocity 3030-3040 out of TC venture. 24" I could go hotter but this load works for me.. I looked up the old loading data, 56gr gave me 3100+ but accuracy suffered.
Reason I like this load, I don't have to adjust my scope when I shoot factory 130 TTSX. My CDS scope is made for 130 ttsx at 3100. The other day I shot a 8" gong 3 for 3 with the SST at 625 yards (or something like that) using my CDS dial for TTSX.
SST is a lot cheaper to plink and shoot than the TTSX

I agree shooting a C&C bullet does take the cost of shooting down. Once I have this rifle sighted in I'll play around & see if I can find a less expensive bullet for practice. Hopefully there is a C&C bullet that will shoot close to this LRX. We all shoot the majority of our shots at targets. Save the expensive bullets for what counts. With all the snow I've had this winter I am for sure anxious to put some rounds down range.

My 270 load data begins and ends with 130 gr ballistic tips or 130 accubond over H4831 and a CCI 250 primer. I start at 57 gr and add powder until she hits 3100 fps. Usually 60 to 61 gr.

Fired 5 groups today with my backup gun. Average group size was .723@100 yards

57g H4831
CCI 200
Federal Brass
150gr Sierra Game King
COAL @ SAMMI

Also shoots about 4 inches @ 500m. Ought to do just dandy!

Once I have this rifle sighted in I'll play around & see if I can find a less expensive bullet for practice.

I was told that Hornady spire points shoot very close with Barnes. Anyhow, I just bought some of them and loaded a few up for my .270 (which I plan on using the 130TTSX) Hard to beat Hornadys for about anything, ha.

What velocity are you getting? I use the same powder and charge with a 150 gr. speer and get 2800 fps.

Hey Jim would be interested to hear if you come up with a C&C bullet that will hit the same spot as the Barnes mono..That would be great info, if it's a yes or no..I've got some Hornady factory seconds 6.5 129 gr bullets & they shoot several inches away from my Barnes mono's.

I had asked around on several forums/experts and they all said that the Hornady/Barnes have almost same B.C., toughness, friction, etc that they "almost always" shoot to the same place. I'm kind approaching mine backwards. I'm working witht he Hornady 130sp and will use that baseline for my 130TTSX. I hope to go shoot here in just a little while so we will see.

I sent you a email asking you to chrono that R19 load you have at cold temp. I'm sure it still gets cold at night at your place, ha. If you could see just how (if any) much speed is affected, I'd love to hear it. I used the 240W ( '06 case size) and R19 from "kinda cold" to 75 deg down in Texas with no issues at all. I'm thinking "just maybe" R19 is kinda case specific as to temp wonkiness ( is that a word? ha) Thanks pard.

The load of 59.5 grs of Rel 19 with the Barnes 129gr LRX was shot in the morning here at my place. Temps were about 35 dg. . Vel was 3259 fps from my 24" Bbl.

That sounds great! I bet one would get close to 3200 with a 22" barrel.

That would be my thought also.

3250 is moving with 129

Been using the various 4831s for 55 years but a friend recently tipped me off to RL16.
I loaded two rounds of 130TTSX each from 52 grs to 55 grs in 1/2gr increments and tried a ladder at 200 yards.
All rounds fell within 1.5" with no discernible elevation difference. I had loaded 4 extra max loads at
55 grs and moved to 100 yards. Three shots were .265 and the 4th shot I hung my crono on the barrel
and it was off a 1/2". Crono was 3160fps.

Primers were Federal Magnum and brass is Nosler. The TTSX was seated to mid of top groove.

I'm going out this afternoon to see if this is dumb luck or repeatable.

The load I listed is right out of the Barnes manual. 59.5grs Rel 19 with the Barnes 130gr TSX gave them 3211fps from their 24"Bbl. The same load with the 129 LRX gave me 3259 from my 24" Bbl. Absolutely no pressure signs. Primers on fired cases still had rounded edges. Cases fired 6 times still had snug primer pockets. Obviously well with in pressure limits & a load right out of the book.

VernAK, is there any certain reason that you chose to use magnum primers? I'm anxious to see if your results repeat themselves. Thanks, Scott.

Sounds like a solid load to me.

I went to the 110g ttsx, amazing accuracy.

58g of Win 760 at 3400; 9 1/2

56-57g of R#17, Fed 215; 3375 fps

H4350 had amazing accuracy at 3350

All bullets seated .050 off the lands.

100 yd groups are .400 with the Win 760 and .625 with R#17.

I sight in at 200 and at 300, drop is so little you think that you are shooting a 220 swift.

No bucks have stopped this bullet yet.

Archer,

I used the magnum primers only because I had some brass already primed for loading Hammer Bullets as they recommend.
Usually I never use magnum primers for lighter cartridges.

Yesterday I loaded last 4 bullets ]130TTSX] that I had and ran them all over the crono ....3199-3211.......more bullets to arrive today
and will load with 210M primers.

I'll have to get some RL16 and give it a try. I already have a box of 130 TTSX. Thanks again.

130gr Federal Trophy Bonded Tip with 54gr of IMR 4350. Haven’t chronographed it, but it shoots under an inch. Only killed one deer with this load so far but it blew right through, left a great blood trail and a very quick kill.

I'm going to try these in my daughter's rifle for her mule deer hunt. Sounds like you are having good luck with tnem.

130 TTSX or 129 LRX R17 52.5 to 54.0
Goes 3100+-
Very accurate

For very low recoil use H4895 and 110 TTSX. Like shooting a Daisy Red Ryder BB gun.

Rick, how fast you moving those 110 TTSX with H4895?

I got 3500 fps with Ramshot Hunter and the 110 TTSX and IIRC, I was a half grain under max.

Around 3325...wasn’t hot load

Finally got to shoot on my range today. Using a factory New Haven Conn. Win. classic stainless ( CRF ) 24" bbl 270. My load again is 59.5grs Rel 19, Win LR primer, Win brass. Barnes 129gr LRX. OAL 3.02". This is a load from the Barnes manual using their 130gr TSX. MV 3259 fps in, my rifle. Shooting at an elevation of 7630'. Temp was running 38 to 40 dg. My 100yd target is actually at 108 yds due to terrain. Once sighted in at about 1 1/2" high two three shot groups were fired .Both were near identical with 3/4" horizontal & 1/2" vertical spread... Well under 1". At my 200yd target about 1" high dead center. . At 300 about 2" low. Not able at this time to shoot farther. All in all I am very satisfied with the results.

Dang, sounds like a winner and man, that’s fast!

At that velocity you must have a Shooters Chrony !!!!!!

My chrono is a "Caldwell " Ballistic Precision chronograph. It's new because I shot my old chrono, right thru the middle of it.. Lots of pieces.. I never use alcohol , so no I was not drinking. When the snow melts back a bit more I will be able to use more of my range for longer shots.

Nope, the best non Oehler on the market: Prochrono Digital

I went and looked up the average velocities for my groups:

62.5 grns - 3505 fps
63.0 grns - 3527 fps
63.5 grns - 3536 fps (Barnes book velocity is 3524)

Hunter is a great powder in the 270.

The Barnes manual lists the load of 59.5grs of Rel 19 with a 130gr TSX at 3211 fps out of a 24" Bbl. I am using this same load of powder with the Barnes 129gr LRX in my 24" bbl . . Since the LRX has a longer boat tail & a longer nose it has less of the bullet body ( shorter ) in contact with the rifling than the 130gr TSX, therefore less friction . This means a higher velocity. Before I accidentally shot my old chrono it gave a reading very close to Barnes manual with a 58.5 gr load of Rel 19. All things considered I feel my current chrono reading to be accurate. My trajectory out to my 200 & 300 yd target corresponds almost exactly to the Barnes trajectory chart based on a BC of .469. I have also compared velocities with my new chrono with velocities recorded with my old chrono with two other rifles. Velocities with my new chrono are right in line with what I recorded with my old chrono. See no reason to dispute my current readings.

Excellent results hesp!

Keith- what was you H4350 load for that 110TTSX?

Mine's a 24" barrel, Barnes data has been pretty close to what I've got. Sounds like a great load.

I agree M1. My loads with my 24"go right along with Barnes 24" Bbl loads. I Have noticed a slightly flatter trajectory on my 200 & 300 yd targets. Can't access my 400 & 500 yds targets right now because of snow but have observed slightly flatter trajectories with other rifles in past years. I believe this has to do with my high elevation of 7630. Still to much snow for me to try this new load out long range Maybe in a week or so .Love this 129 gr LRX. Accurate & flat. Appears to be a real winner.