Good evening fellas. Just wondering what bullet federal uses in their 308 win 150 grain power shok ammo? I figured it was a Speer hot-cor but mine has the jacket material almost all the way to the tip and their is a cannalure ring and looks more like a Speer grand slam. Anybody know for sure? Planning on either using this or Hornady interlock also in 150 grain for my sons tikka t3x superlite this year for deer hunting. Just wondering what y’all that know bullet components thought about it.
Thanks,
Big Ed

No idea what they use but any 150 grain out there will kill a deer with authority. Ed k

Ha! I hear ya erk. Just wondering what they are so I can gauge what kinda performance I can expect. Either the hot-cor or grand slam will be tits as they both will give me the penetration I want for exit wounds and good blood trails
with the grand slam being a sure bet for an exit wound.
Thanks,
Ed

Like ERK, I can't say what bullet they use in the Power Shok but we've killed a lot of deer and hogs on our place with the various lower-end factory Federal 308 loads. They always work. The Hornady Interlock also works well for us and always has. No shortage of good, inexpensive factory loads for the common chamberings these days.

Something quaint & familiar to me when I carry a 308 afield.

At one point they were using Speer bullets, but that was a long time ago. They are both owned by ATK, so maybe that's still the case.
Federal does make some of their own bullets in house, as an example they make the bullets in their Fusion line themselves.

If you are looking for a 150gr bullet for killing deer, Speer's work fine. Speer flat base bullets are one of the easiest to work with when it comes to getting good hunting quality groups out of hunting rifles. The 150gr Nosler Ballistic tip's another fine deer slayer.

Any of the Speer 150gr bullets out of a .308 will do that for you on deer.

They are made by ATK.

Any 150 will kill deer

And elk...

I use 150 Sierra gamekings. I tried them when bullets were hard to get, accurate and quick killers on deer and pigs

Yes, Gamekings have proven to be very accurate and I have also had excellent results over the years with Gamekings on Whitetail. ..Good hunting.......Hb

Ed,
I've shot the 308 for more than 40 years, and have shot game with a number of different bullets in that cartridge. Because of the moderate velocities that the 308 produces, any of the cup and core bullets will certainly perform more than satisfactorily on mid-sized game, be they Federal, Speer, Hornady, Sierra, or whatever. For your son, whichever 150-gr. bullet his gun shoots accurately is the one I'd go with.

Since this is the Big Game Reloading section if you ever have a hankering for something both accurate, different and potent, try the Barnes 130 grain TTSX over 50+ grains or so of Ramshot TAC powder, and the primer of your choice. This load will yield better than 3100 FPS in any 308 barrel 20" or longer. As they say work up from below......

I have used the 150 Interlock, loaded to a little over 2900 fps, to kill quite a few deer. It kills as well as anything out there. Speer does just as well. If the ammo shoots well, don't worry about which bullet is in it. For the price, it is hard to beat the Hornady Whitetail ammo. Most rifles that I have seen it used in, really liked it. As others have said, about any 150-grain bullet will kill deer just fine.

thanks men and keep the thought coming please. imma test my sons tikka with the federal power shok,which now after studying pics of bullets i think they are speer grandslams due to the cannalure ring which the fusion nor hot cor have,hornady interlock and nosler ballistic tip and see whats what as far as accuracy. then decide as i belive all of my picks should give me my desired exit wound with behind the shoulder and maybe even a front axle/shoulder shot.
Big Ed

Maybe closer to the old Mag Tip than the Grand Slam.

TRY THIS: 125 Accubond 48gr TAC Starline Case Fed 210 or CCI BR2...2915FPS from my RUGR SR 7.62....absolute death ray on whitetails....

Pete

All of my 308's liked 150gr Hornady flat base interlocks.. You don't really need anything fancy/expensive in the 308 to kill a deer.... or like Brad said, even elk. The old winchester power points also work very well...

The last few I've killed with .308 and -06 have been with 150 Pro Hunters. No drama.

I don't know what Federal uses but I'm another that uses Sierra. They shoot well and kill deer well.

Hornady, I like the inter-lock design.

Same here, but I also use the 150 gr Sierra Pro Hunter.

I looked down on 308’s until bought a Savage Hog Hunter to use with a suppressor. I loaded the 150 GameKings, was amazed at how well the little toy Savage shot, how little recoil it had, how well the 308 killed pigs. I have since changed my opinion. I find myself grabbing that rifle to use. All my Sakos, Kleinguenthers, 700’s, custom rifles are getting pissed off cause they are sitting in the safe. I bought a 99 in 308 too. It is a ton of fun to shoot also.

i have some 150 grain interlock in the american whitetail ammo to try with his rifle too. just thought one of you handloaders might know exactly what bullet is in the power shok 150 grain 308 win load. it doesn't look like a 150 grain speer hot cor due to i don't believe the hot cor has a cannelure and the bullet loaded in mine has copper all the way to the tip pretty much where hot cor's have a decent bit of exposed lead. the grand slam does have the cannelure is where i get my thought on the matter but i'm far from knowledgeable about this so i reached out.
thanks for the answers guys,
Big Ed

The presence or not of a cannelure isn't a reliable indicator. Nosler provides cannelured bullets to ammo manufacturers where the same ones handloaders get are smooth sided.

there ya go math i didn't know that in my ignorance of reloading. guess i just figured whatever they load for in loaded ammo was the same bullets you would get if rolling your own. well, it was both the presence of a cannalure AND the copper going all the way to the slightly pointed tip where as the hot cor has a good bit of lead exposed at the tip and no cannalure. school me men on this please as i self admitted my ignorance to the hand loading game.i'd just really like to know which speer bullet is loaded so i could expect performance either getting a passthrough or not.i know that both the hot cor and the grand slam are great bullets.
thanks again,
Big Ed

If I knew for sure which one I'd tell you.

Even if it is a Grand Slam that isn't a guarantee of an exit hole.

thanks bud and yeah i know their aren't any guarantees with bullets and even a partition sometimes don't exit..........but most do. i just like to hedge my bets if i can.
thanks again,
Big Ed

Yep, the 150gn Hornady flat base is a good solid performer in the .308. That would be my go to bullet.

I like the efficiency of a 150 gr TTSX. Put under the Varget or 4064 directly in the middle of the starting and max load on the chart. I put it in LC cases after match prepping them. Be Well, RZ

I thought it was the Fusion but if it is they would have that in the add copy, same for a grand slam so maybe it is another non retail bullet. I am partial to 150 BT in all of the 30 caliber cartridges I load for. The Hornaday is a good choice too. Just about any 150 will perform well at 308 velocities so hard to go wrong.

I also loaded 150gr. 30-30 bullets in 308 at slightly reduced velocity and they performed like premium bullets and were lethal on deer.

Nosler 125 BT (green tips), Rem brass, CCI, with 47 gr H322 pushing 3180 fps is devistating.

I load 130 Barnes for a 300 Savage. They kill pigs real fine, they might be an option.

My BIL has used his Mod 742/150 Sierra GK for almost 50 yrs on Texas deer/hogs. when I lived there, and loaded for other guy's 30-06s, I used the Hornady 150 ST, wicked! I only killed one deer with a 308 and it was with factory 150 corlokts. I later used the 165 NBT on an axis. My buddy out here also has right at 50yrs with a Browning BLR .308, also with 150 Corlokts, on everything, including bison! I don't care for/use a lot of Federal brass, but when I want to test/sight in a rifle, I also grab the Blue Box! Very good value and well balanced loads. Out here, hunters use them or the Fusion line as much or more than Winchester/Remington factory loads. Federal Premiums? Almost always worth the extra money too. Just that dang Federal brass can be so soft for hot loads or if one wants a lot of reloads from one case. An example of one picky guy!

well, i got the boys 308 win on close at 100 with the 150 blue box fed then for the heck of it tried some 150 bt's ala fed premium and the teeker liked em alot to the tune of .5" 3 shot group@100yds repeatedly. so, thanks for all the thoughts but until the 150 bt doesn't give me what i want,as in penetration, i guess i stick with it for this season at least.
thanks again fellas,
Big Ed

When I get a new to me 308 I like the Federal Blue box 150 gr. I hunt whitetail with them a bit. But after I get cases out of the gun like 80 or more, I like to change to the 150 TTSX as I said earlier. But the 150 grn killed 10 hogs in TX last spring. No problem. Hope you guys kill lots of game with those loads in the Teeker. Be Well, Rusty

When considering a 150 grain bullet for use on deer in my 308 Win; I tend to focus on the Hornady Interlock, Speer Hot Core, and the Speer Grand Slam 15o grainers. I prefer flat based bullet because in my experience they are more consistent performers. Then I focus on the ballistic coefficients (BCs) of the individual bullet.

Bullet ----------------------------BC

Hornady Interlock .349
Speer Hot Core .389
Speer Grand Slam .295

I think any of the above will serve you well. I too like the Hornady interlock design!

CJ

FWIW, when in doubt, answer is ALWAYS Nosler Partition.

For many years, I used a .308 M70 carbine loaded with 150 ballistic tips and Reloder 12. I never lost a deer with that combo. When Reloder 12 went away, I struggled to get the same accuracy.

Nowadays, I load 168 ballistic tips over Reloder 15, and it's accurate in several different .308 rifles. It has worked well on a number of deer that I have shot.

Shadow, That the load Barnes has on its website as the #1 powder for the 130 TTSX. What makes it a potent killer at way out there is the energy it carries at 300-400 yards...like 1400 or better at 300 yds, and still packing 2200-2300 velocity at 300. Set it up at 2.0" high at 100 you only drop between 5 and 6" at 300 yds, so a hold on center of chest will clip lungs/heart at that range. Killed buck at 320 yards at last shooting light doing exactly this...dropped in his tracks.

HEY ALL...I too use the Barnes 130 TTSX in my 308's...I worked up to Barnes max load of 51gr TAC in Winchester cases for my Ruger No. 1 308 ANNIV....3155fs...22"bbl
BUT...had to cut the load of TAC to 49gr in Starline cases and still got 2960fps in my Ruger SR762 16"bbl...Starline cases are MUCH heavier than WIN...we all know that....
both rifles and loads..7 deer out to 227yds....seven B F D R N......not to mention these 2 loads are under 1MOA in both weapons......
Pete

Seems like the OP hasn't been back since November, but copper to the tip sounds like what they put in the fusion.