Winchester 41 Primers - 24hourcampfire

Has anyone tried them or have knowledge of them?

Mostly I'm curious if this is just a thicker cupped WSR or a Magnum thicker cupped primer like a CCI 41.

Winchester hasn't made a Small Rifle Primer in a Magnum form to the best of my knowledge. I believe the standard WSR Primer is not as hot as a Magnum Primer, but a bit hotter than most standard Small Rifle Primers of other manufacturers.

I've got a 1000 and these would be for a .223 Rem.

With Winchester currently managing the Lake City facility, I suspect these are overruns or excess capacity from military production. I load them the same as the CCI 41 and haven't seen a significant difference.

I've seen these for sale around here and a black and red box
around here most places had them at 90 a thousand. I just sure hope they ate both face pictures like the blue box bullshit they put out a few years ago...

Originally Posted by woodmaster81

With Winchester currently managing the Lake City facility, I suspect these are overruns or excess capacity from military production. I load them the same as the CCI 41 and haven't seen a significant difference.

Similar to CCI 41? That's something to look for.

BTW, they come in what I'd describe as a "generic" looking container.

I’ve not come across the Win 41s but the CCI 41 is the same as the 450 with a bit more clearance between the primer cup and anvil. This is done to reduce the chances of a slam fire in an AR. The BR4 primer is the same as the 450 with tighter QC. Use CCI450 load data with all of them. The CCI 400 has a thinner primer cup. 0.020” vs 0.025” I don’t like to use that one with higher pressure loads. Just picked up 2500 41’s today for $73 per 1k. Still pretty high but I’m starting to run low. They had the 450s priced at $53 but were out. Not surprised at that price. They even had Rem 7-1/2s for $89. Prices around here are finally starting to drop.

Good to hear prices are coming down near you. I haven’t seen ANY on the shelves here.

Originally Posted by Ben_Lurkin

I’ve not come across the Win 41s but the CCI 41 is the same as the 450 with a bit more clearance between the primer cup and anvil. This is done to reduce the chances of a slam fire in an AR. The BR4 primer is the same as the 450 with tighter QC. Use CCI450 load data with all of them. The CCI 400 has a thinner primer cup. 0.020” vs 0.025” I don’t like to use that one with higher pressure loads. Just picked up 2500 41’s today for $73 per 1k. Still pretty high but I’m starting to run low. They had the 450s priced at $53 but were out. Not surprised at that price. They even had Rem 7-1/2s for $89. Prices around here are finally starting to drop.

Prices will continue to come down, as the shelves fill up. It will still take some time though. A couple months ago, I saw the Remington 7.5's at $75/1000 (brick), CCI450's for $85, BR4's for $135!!!! Small rifle primers have been pretty easy to find, but you have to decide if you want to pay their prices now, or wait till they are cheaper in 6 months or a year from now. Reading reviews on the Winchester 41's, I'd hold out for CCI450's or the like.
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They had about 70,000 of those ^^^^ last time I was at Scheels. Another place I visit, has them for $85/brick.

Dang, I'm drooling looking at that stack of primers. BSA, you're in Nevada? It'd almost be worth a drive up there to buy some. Here in this anti-gun State the primers are as scarce as hen's teeth.

Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter

Originally Posted by Ben_Lurkin

I’ve not come across the Win 41s but the CCI 41 is the same as the 450 with a bit more clearance between the primer cup and anvil. This is done to reduce the chances of a slam fire in an AR. The BR4 primer is the same as the 450 with tighter QC. Use CCI450 load data with all of them. The CCI 400 has a thinner primer cup. 0.020” vs 0.025” I don’t like to use that one with higher pressure loads. Just picked up 2500 41’s today for $73 per 1k. Still pretty high but I’m starting to run low. They had the 450s priced at $53 but were out. Not surprised at that price. They even had Rem 7-1/2s for $89. Prices around here are finally starting to drop.

Prices will continue to come down, as the shelves fill up. It will still take some time though. A couple months ago, I saw the Remington 7.5's at $75/1000 (brick), CCI450's for $85, BR4's for $135!!!! Small rifle primers have been pretty easy to find, but you have to decide if you want to pay their prices now, or wait till they are cheaper in 6 months or a year from now. Reading reviews on the Winchester 41's, I'd hold out for CCI450's or the like.
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They had about 70,000 of those ^^^^ last time I was at Scheels. Another place I visit, has them for $85/brick.

The great thing about Scheels is they will price match items in stock at their competitors.

I just loaded some 55vmax 223 with these primers. Shot right there with my CCI and Win Br primers.

Originally Posted by Yaddio

Dang, I'm drooling looking at that stack of primers. BSA, you're in Nevada? It'd almost be worth a drive up there to buy some. Here in this anti-gun State the primers are as scarce as hen's teeth.

For sure. I was just over there about 4 days ago and they had a pile of Remington 7 1/2 benchrest primers. They were the same price as the CCI450's shown above. $89.99/brick. They also had some CCI41's in stock. That was the Reno Scheels.