I was looking at another forum and a guy has (500) 6.5mm 129 gr Hornady Interlocks for $400 😳😳. That’s $80/box for Hornady soft point projectiles. Absolutely crazy!

I understand capitalism, making a profit, supply and demand, etc, but asking 3x what they are new is laughable!

Did you get them ?

Oh yeah!!! Asked if he had more! lol!

Dark forces drive this market, political and medical. Sellers are eager to take advantage of the situation, and buyers are induced to fall for it by fear.

Don't buy it. I have seen trap loads for $28 a box, and 22LR for $120 a brick. I could let go of some of my accumulated supply, but refuse to throw gas on the fire. Hopefully things will get better in the future as more people refuse to play the game. Even if you can afford it, it's not worth what paying these prices causes.

JMHO.................

HM

They ask a price and see what they get paid. Most people expect their realtor to bring top dollar for their house, and I don't see any $800 model 21's for a reason.....people are out there who want it more than others.

I think it's insane to spend 150 bux a brick on 22 shells, some guys are happy to buy them......all perspective

Asking and selling are 2 different things... IMO, does show some of their character...

Aaron- I guess I should have charged more for those 22 bullets🤣.

This exactly.

Despite the numerous ammo shortages we have had in the past, some people just never looked to stock up.

We all could use an extra box of this or that, but I bet 95% of the guys here in this site will be just fine (for many years) even if they didn’t buy another box of anything for a long time.

When bullet prices are that high, I will just go custom bullets from Hammer. If a regular cup and core is 75% of the price of a good solid custom bullet, to me it is a no brainer. But there are still some good people who are reasonable. I recently got 200 of the 129 interlock for 75 bucks shipped.

I’m definitely not going to buy it. Just trying to figure out where these prices come from?? Start stupid high and come down? Have they seen others sell that high? Gun broker??

I have been to two gunshows in the last 3 weeks. It is like they all got together on Friday and said 150.00 per 1000 for primers. And powder is 80.00 to 100.00 per pound. I never seen anything walking out the door. They can ask for that amount, doesnt mean there going to get it.

Even paying that price, I could still reload for 1/2 the price of factory (if you could find factory)

How many more threads are we going to have complaining about prices? Asking for a friend, thanks.

Too god d a m many

remember this when you ever go to sell anything......you know so you can show your character.........bob

I ask that often when it comes to pharmaceuticals, where a drug is marked up by many thousands of percentage points ‘all the time’, as opposed to a box of ammunition being marked up 300 - 400% in times like these.

The goverment are controlling both drug and ammo prices

Exactly!

I concur, I will not pay outrageous prices.

Who cares what people ask for their stuff ? If you dont like it, move on. Capitalism , much better than socialism. Sometimes I think some people would think it was better if the government had control on private sales ??

Remember when two guys in KY bought all the toilet paper in their area and then tried to sell it on Amazon for high prices. Amazon shut them down. Maybe if there were gun sites that had scruples they would shut down these scalpers too. Then maybe the ammo/reloading components would be more readily available and at decent prices.

The same place that everyone selling something gets them.

Just a Hunter.............. like shooting Dingleberries off a sheeps ass....................

I cannot believe folks are asking for centralized control of markets.

Move to Venezuela or Cuba if you want to live in such a system.

Free markets are great...but not necessarily if you are asleep at the switch.

But that is your problem. Don't throw away capitalism so you can sleep.

When this comes up as a question of character, I ask this question?

What is the worst character trait: Is it worse to have supplies you're sitting on, when there is a shortage, and to sit on them and not sell/share them, or is it worse to sell them for what people are willing to pay, and help satisfy that need.

I have no problem with someone coming forward and offering their stuff for less than someone else is offering (gouging) for. But to criticize the price without offering a lesser priced alternative is not appropriate. Sometimes the lack of items just drives the price. The ones that have the problem with the price offering to satisfy the market demand at a lower price would automatically fix the price gouging. Complaining about how someone else should sell their stuff for less does nothing to fix the problem, except make for hard feelings all the way around.

I had 59 eld 6.5s I put on GunBroker with a .01 starting bid.
Sold for $63 shipped

What exactly would have been the correct way to get rid of them?

Sell them for $25 nad let the next guy sell them for $60?

So after shipping and fees how much did you make?

OTOH places like Midway have people who want to go to work every day and keep their jobs. If Midway has nothing to sell then they don't need these people so maybe that's one way of being able to keep help. Make a little extra for a rainy day. Not saying it's right, but just a possible reason for increasing prices.

+1

Apparently some people only like capitalism when prices are coming down. Don't like the price; Don't buy it! Pretty simple.

If you think you can do it better, start up a manufacturing company and make your fortune. No one is stopping you.


Jerry

Sour grapes is how I explain people who cry about current prices, they simply got caught with their pants down. Anyone who has been around the block would recognize the potential for massive prices spikes/demand after an election cycle. Only a moron can't grasp the concept of supply and demand.

I also don't care to pay exorbitant prices induced by fluctuating supply /demand relationships, so I stock up when things are available and hope I have enough.
As far as any "virtues" that might be realized through a planned economy, people need to realize that massive price hikes on high demand goods and services are a part of ANY economic system. Talk to people who've lived in socialistic countries, people who've been in jail or prison, or people who've bought anything that can't be legally sold. Even in centrally planned economies where everything is "fairly distributed", wherever a need exists, there will be a market to serve it, and the prices in this market will always be a derivation of demand and scarcity.

There are times of need and I understand that making a deal often includes the realization of things other than monetary compensation; everything in life is a value judgement on what is gained vs what is lost. I recently sold a scope to friend's son who is 16, works several jobs, and pays for things with his own money. I gave him a great deal on the scope because it was my way of thanking those who did the same for me when I was in the same shoes. The feeling I got from helping him was worth more to me than the much higher price I would've received selling it on-line. Likewise with acts of charity. However, I don't expect someone to sell me something for less than going rate because I didn't stock up, or so that I might be able to sell it elsewhere for more.

I hope all those who are deriding making a profit on an open market, non-compulsory sale call their retirement fund and money mangers to let them know not manage their funds with an eye towards making the most off the transactions. Shows a real lack of character if you don't abide by you're own espoused values.

Love how it’s always the ones crying about prices are not the ones offering their supplies for “bought” prices. These same broke complainers won’t even buy a few extra boxes when supply is plenty.

Rather complain about how unfair something is....

I do love watching snowflakes melt so, carry on!

I hope everyone remembers those scalpers who are taking advantage of the left wing siege, to fleece their fellow shooters. And later when things get back to normal, they never ever do business with those people again.

An item is only worth what someone will pay for it. Scruples and morals and ethics vary from person to person. I agree if you don't like someone's prices bypass them and go on. This gives you something to talk about to your hunting buddies or gun buddies for example... Can you believe what this person is asking for ... or I can't believe this dumb SOB gave $$$ for this....There is also the side to of prepping -vs- panic buying. Prepping is say you have a 30-06 and you live to deer hunt (or any other caliber that you go to the range and shoot) when ammo is plentiful buy an extra box or 2 once or twice a month when you have the disposable funds and your cache or stockpile grows significantly in no time. That's the definition of prepping. Panic buying is what we all have become victims of currently in this pandemic, election year whatever you want to call it and that's when there is an "ammo shortage". The people that give these high prices are the ones that didn't think ahead to use their disposable funds to prepare for times like these. The gougers are the ones waiting in line at the main stream sporting goods stores that have prepped for themselves but also see an opportunity to take advantage of the ones that didn't think ahead to prep for times like these. All that being said the people that weren't prepared for these current times should be looked at from the same point of view as the ones who were prepared and are taking advantage of the system. Granted if you find yourself in either boat the view sucks to the onlookers and the people caught in the needy boat. I agree with many people in this post but if you aren't prepared for any situation then you have no one to blame but yourself. The logical approach is to be prepared for times like these and the problem of gouging takes care of themselves but there will ALWYAS be people that don't prepare and the nay-sayers that just blow off the situation saying "it will never happen". The way the government will EVER control guns is not by banning guns but by controlling the flow of ammo.

Just my 2 cents and remember the boy scouts motto "Be prepared" and this will take care of itself.

I have sold a few items on GB recently, mostly bullets. I just start them at a penny and let the market figure it out. That way if there is any scalping going on, the buyer is scalping himself and my conscience is clear.

Can’t wait for the deals that come around a year from now when all these boys who horded supplies begin unloading stuff for half what they paid for it. Then I’ll jump back in as a buyer.

thats the best way to handle it jnyork.....like I said something is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it

Ask this guy.

https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...inchester-mod-94-30-30-1951-all-original

At a recent gun show the dealer was selling 22 LR ammo for $100/box. My cousin said he saw a dealer selling 22 WMR ammo for $100 a box and the buyer wanted all he had.

NO! It would be handy if the price was required in the title so we could move on without having to open and scroll through the thread.

This is such a silly statement.

If you have a house, would you sell it right now for what you paid, or what it's worth? What about stocks or investments?

The only ones getting "fleeced" are those who weren't prepared, plain and simple. It amazes me that people still don't understand that guns/ammo/reloading components are all commodities, and prices have been fluctuating wildly since Obama took office. Its a volatile market, and some people have been smart enough to buy low....while others have been in the unfortunate (and unprepared) position of buying high. Make no mistake, though, no one is being forced to buy.

All the righteous indignation has been comical to read throughout the 'fire.

I have been buying powder, primers, brass, bullets, etc. throughout this whole deal and paying what I consider to be reasonable prices, never more then typical retail and often less. Reasonable enough that I could turn a profit on most everything in my reloading room. I choose not to because I don't know when I can replace it, I am in it okay, it doesn't go bad and I like to shoot.

Having said that... if manufacturers, wholesalers and retailers would move all of their inventory through bid sales at "market" then equilibrium would have been found long ago, there would be no margin for scalpers and you could walk into any store and see product on the shelf. Perhaps the normal retail chain is partially to blame for trying to sell at historical prices rather than actual value.

I must have not been clear on my question when I asked where people were getting their prices.....

I understand capitalism. I use it. I go by it... I get it! I was simply asking where people get their prices? Are they looking at Gun broker, sites like this, other forums, other web pages??

I’m not complaining about the prices. I don’t need to buy stuff at inflated prices because I am well stocked up on stuff I need.

I just found it hilarious that a guy is asking $80/box for soft point projectiles that can be had for $35/box, even in these inflated times. This is what prompted me to ask “where did he come up with the price of $80/box for these???” That is all!

I see Miday's price is $37 per box, but they don't have any. I think Midway is ripping people off. When I don't have any, my price is $32.50.

I agree 100%. I have plenty of what I need. Primers, powder and ammunition. I only traded straight up for three boxes of like/kind Ammo 6.5cm for 308win. because I didn’t have 308 win and I wasn’t going to pay ridiculous money for it. There will be a lot of buyers remorse when this goes back to “normal” like it always does.

It is times like this when members come together to help each other. If a member posts and needs something, help them out by giving or selling them what they need at a reasonable price. Some members have helped me while I have helped others.

"A Random Acts of Kindness"

Don't know if they they will ship but north Georgia reloaders got a crap ton of hornady bullets in the other day if any of yall are interested 706-828-5626

95% of the ammo bought in the last few months will never even be shot.

It will be turning up a year or two from now for pennies on the $ dollar.

Buy low, sell high.