Selling a brand new Marlin 336 CB cowboy 38-55 win lever action with 24" octagon barrel. This very RARE specimen was manufactured in 1999 and is indeed "JM" stamped. This rifle is brand new! With original box, outer sleeve, plastic, paperwork, hammer extension, lock, etc. Still has the cosmolene on it. The walnut stock has amazing wood with some tiger striping. Beautifully checked as well. 100% new. Only taken out for pictures. Must go from a non-ffl (me) to your FFL dealer. If you have any questions please ask. Layaway is an option. 30%down and the rest within 60 days . Thanks for looking. $1999+$40 shipping.

1894 or 336?

Def a 336 Cowboy
Pretty rifle

Thanks guys. Corrected that.

That’s a beauty!

Where are you in PA?

Thanks. SWPA. 50 MI south of pgh.

WOW!

As per our pms

I will take this please!
Thanks

Thanks. Spf

I have 1, those are outstanding rifles..

This marlin arrived.

It is damaged.

Buyer beware.

Damaged in shipping?

There is a blemish in the sale photos…..look at the checkering above the lever area, it’s scratched or cracked. When I tried to transfer it the blemish is way worse now.

I didn’t transfer and wanted to return this bad boy.

But…..

According to the seller the clock started ticking when it arrived at FFL…….even though I told him I was on an extended business trip and suggested delayed shipping.

I can upload a photo of existing blemish.


Be Careful……..


Very Careful with this deal.

Hmmmm

Angus1895: Dang - sorry to hear of the "damage".
I was kind of interested in this cool gun (especially the caliber) - I am sorry for the trouble.
Do you think it was damaged by the "shipper"?
I hope resolution will be satisfactory.
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy

The seller says it’s mine now.

The perfect BNIB Marlin!

Laffin.

Dang

I wouldn't be "laffin", but thanks for the heads up.
donsm70

Thanks

That's awful

Is that a SCRATCH, or is it CRACKED ? It is hard to tell from the pictures, but it looks like a Crack To Me!

Looks like a crack to me. Bad deal

It is a bona fide CRACK.


One that upon inspection of the sale photo , is there.

Seller has gone dark.

I enclosed image of a crack , but not a Marlin cracki.

Will take photos of actual crack tomorrow morning!

Here is the crack close up.

Here is a wide shot.

Seller should be taking that back. Sorry.

Yikes

Looks like there is signs of the crack in the original pics.
Straight below the point of the bottom of the large diamond and 4 checkering lines to the left where the wood starts smooth…

I’m sure this could be resolved.

It should.

That's a shame, yes it should be resolved.

+1

This is very disheartening!

10ring1 stated the rifle as "new" at least 3 separate times in the ad and should've disclosed the issue if known.

If I would have been the buyer, I would have expected a New In Box rifle and fully expect the seller to stand tall and issue a return/refund after recognizing the stock was cracked before he shipped it.

I've dealt with 10ring1 in the past... I hope he does the right thing here and take back the rifle.

+2

Flaw can be seen in original photos - he may or may not have seen it but in retrospect it’s not what it was advertised as - I’ve had to do it a couple of times - easiest thing to do is return the funds and get the rifle back. I too have dealt with 10ring1 and he was good to deal with (FWIW).

PennDog

Well he was online 26 minutes ago.

He needs to stop by here and defend himself.

I am so sorry. Seller needs to step up. The "showed up at FFL and you have 24 hrs no fire inspection period" excuse is bull-poop!

First of all I want to thank you all for your support in this matter.

I still have not heard from seller.

I have taken photos of shipping box.

The damage to the styrofoam components may be old as no crumbly styrofoam was in box?

I wonder why this damage was not noted in original sale post?

It’s there in the photos, the styrofoam damage.

Any advice on how to proceed would be appreciated.

I would either return item for refund minus shipping, or take a partial cash settlement to cover devaluation and repairs. ( I don’t think this rifle is safe to shoot, or handle until repaired)

Thanks

John

This is his reply.

I did not go public with this until the seller went dark.

Any advice from here would be appreciated.

I requested to return it ……I eat shipping both ways.

Or $900 cash I keep the 38/55


John

This is my final response John. If you contact Paypal be prepared for yours and my account to be frozen and closed. You are at just as at fault for using PayPal as I am, so that threat is just as self destructive as it is punitive.
And as for the rifle, I inspected the rifle and there was not a crack when I had it. I certainly did not sell it with intention of pushing off a supposedly damaged rifle on someone else. I would have never sold it if that is the case.
Lastly, i certainly don't appreciate you going on the thread a being a dick before contacting me to attempt to resolve this. You immediately turned the thread the day before you sent me a message with the issue.
Nevertheless, I do not agree the rifle had a crack before I sent it and certainly don't agree with your inflated estimate. My one and only offer is $300 refund. If you accept let me know and if not, this will be our last contact.

Take the 300.00 and move on.

that crack looks like a dog hair on the rifle...........hard to see and with all the right side photos and one left side what's with that and these photos were taken before shipping and the shipper will red flag this as NOT being shipping damage so with enough photos being taken you can always find one to submit that conceals what you don't want exposed......like what LazyL0228 says..........take the $300 and move on....you got screwed and
there is no way else to put it..................I had a beautiful wife.....a real looker but after marrying her I found out she was a alcoholic sneak drinker with 2 DWI's..... the last one she ran into a whole house!!!!!! the moral of this story is what looks good on the outside may turn butt ugly once you get your hands on it and see what you truly have..............I ended up with a 5 month old baby, no home and minus $186,000.00 in 1976 or $970,000. in now dollars so take the $300 and run as you got screwed but youre still alive...................................

Just wondering -- why does the crack now look so much more severe than what is shown in the sales photo? I can understand why that makes the seller wonder what happened.
The $300 offer seems rather cheap since the seller is undoubtedly still making a lot of profit unless he bought the rifle recently. There should be a reasonable compromise here since this will remain a very nice rifle after the repairs are done.

I set my compensation at $900 for the following reasons:

1. The box is damaged……… $50

2. The stock is broken……….$250 repair/ replacement

3. The condition of the firearm devalues by at least 40%

4. Finding a replacement stock with that amount of figure will be hard at best.

I paid $ 1785 shipped so minus $85 for shipping is $1700

.4 x 1700 = $628 + 250 + 50 = $928

So there you go.

Bottom line…..

Any one want this for $1485 shipped?

Angus is a good guy.I have dealt with him many times and he has always been honest and not a cry baby.Be that as it may.This is why I take the butt stock off of lever actions when I ship and wrap heavily.The seller needs to man up and replace the butt stock with one that is the same quality(sans crack) or take the gun back.Huntz

Thanks hunts.

I totally agree! Almost all damage I have noted in shipping is the buttstocks in levers. And I often suggest shipping with stock removed. I think from now on I will insist it.

The seller is a lowdown varmint and cheat.

Looks like in the original pics the stock may have had a small crack and was made worse in shipping. Seller should refund your money then file a claim with the shipper

Damage from shipping is almost always due to using insufficient amounts of appropriate packing materials. I have packed dozens of fully assembled guns and have yet to have anyone complain of damages. Dissassembly only opens you up to having different problems like rubbing inside the package. I say to leave them whole and pack it right!

Filing a shipping claim is like pissing in the lake and looking for the level to rise.

What in theee hell could a shipper do to a package that would cause that crack? If it’s visible in the pics, seller should have noted it. I doubt UPS used the box as a ramp, and it seems you would need something like that to cause that crack during shipping. Also seems the packaging would have displayed damage on the outside in the same spot.

Why the OP would destroy himself, and any future sales, on this forum for a couple hundred dollars extra, is beyond me. We’re I the OP, Id replace the stock, or fix it and note the repair with price adjusted downward to compensate. Pretty sure he paid nowhere near his asking price for the gun.

I understand how people’s descriptions can vary while looking at the same object, oh that’s 95% on the bluing, no it’s not it’s only 90%. I say 93%. But, a crack is a crack! Some will sell their reputations, or souls for a hundred bucks.

Gun was advertised as nib. So its not the buyers problem, period!

Up to the seller and usps to work it out.

Full refund is the only way its fair to the buyer. Seller takes the chance on it getting in one pc.

I would like to update this situation.

The seller has sent me $500 for damages .

The issue has been resolved amicably.

Thanks for your time and consideration.It’s been awesome.

Now …….any advice on moving foreword with this cracked stock?

Thanks again all of you.

Let me start by saying, I did not want to address this thread until the issue was resolved with the buyer. The issue has been resolved.

First off, I had recently acquired the rifle as I had sold it. I did not see the alleged imperfection prior to listing it. There was some obvious noted damage during shipping. I will make one argument in my defense, the buyer did address the thread either at the exact same time or before he had messaged me to find resolution and all of this. And of course the thread went south from there. I am happy to find resolution with the buyer. Never had any malice intention to screw anyone, ever. I have a positive reputation here for selling quality items and I will continue to sell here but check things more closely before listing.

Moving forward, I will not address this thread any longer as this is resolved. If you feel the need to continue to be negative, be negative on this ad, not on my future ads. I will not play into the childishness.

I have learned several lessons from this unfortunate event and John, I am offering a public apology. I'm sorry for all of this and glad to find some amicable resolution.

Ring

That's a good settlement, but a shame the seller waited to destroy his own reputation first.

Replace the stock now.

I’d remove it and try and figure out the angle of the crack, then drill a couple of holes through it starting where it’s inletted for the lever (from the pics, that looks possible). If the crack is wide enough or can be opened a bit with light pressure, work some thin epoxy into the crack, or use a syringe, then run some brass screws coated in the epoxy into the holes and pull them down to close it. You may have to grind off the heads after it sets. If any epoxy seeps out the crack externally, wipe it off with a rag dampened with solvent, even isopropyl alcohol. Keep an eye on that while it sets as it may creep out over time.

I fixed a Mauser stock cracked through the web in front of the trigger inletting and through into the grip like that. Had to file and Dremel off the ends since they showed, but it came out looking decent, and I’m no craftsman, just cautious.

If you aren’t confident about it, give it to a pro. You have the money now.

Bad advice. If he does this he no longer has a NIB rifle, but rather a hacked up repaired one.

Good deal 10Ring

And if he replaces the stock, he still doesn't have a NIB rifle.

..................just buy another stock, move on, and hunt that bitch

Boyd’s stock?

I could name her mello yellow!

Pappy 348 has the advice
Inject with needle some gorilla glue, should solve it, if not you can always pin it. Should be able to "twist it a bit and open it for the glue
Pinning tho, solves it

Sad it came to this ...

Angus,

If it was mine, I wouldn't half step it with a repair. I would find an original matching factory finished stock or a replacement stock blank finished to match the rifle. An example would be something like this one on
Gunbroker.

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/941873782

Glad it worked out - 10ring1 is a good guy and I knew he’d make it right.

If it were me I’d find a similar replacement stock (they are out there) or depending one the crack it should be fixable and barely visible if the stock repair is done properly.

Good luck,
PennDog

Late to the party.

Don’t know how many sellers allow an 8 week inspection period.
I’ll take it on 5/25/22, damage report on 7/31/22.

Good, timely communication goes a long way.

Buyer should have had his FFL dealer inspect the rifle for damage upon arrival and if he is his own FFL, then made arrangements for someone to look it over.

Good on the seller for making it right.

I approached the problem as a user, not a collector. Nice rifle, but not too nice to shoot if the owner so wishes.

NIB=Wasted in my book.

yep agreed , as a user , as GOD intended

As long as both are happy

I ain’t so bothered about what GOD feels about a NIB.


But what would John Marlin think?

Whether ol’ John took the Up escalator or the Down, I suspect that rifle’s off his radar. Enjoy.