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Posted By: Dirtfarmer Browning BPCR 45-70 - 08/24/22
I have a Browning BPCR 45-70 that I set up for WT primitive season. I mounted a VX-3 3.5-10x40 CDS on it, had the CDS set up for the 250 gr. TSX at 2,550 fps out to 300 yds.

It will shoot that bullet MOA all the way. Previous owner had done a great trigger job, 2.75#, clean break. He also had a sheet of BP and Duplex loads that I never tried.

I don't have the BP sights, just the Leupold as shown.

Wood is exceptional. I've read that Browning sent Badger barrels and Missouri walnut to Miroku to build these guns and of course, they do great work.

Bore is about mint, gun is 99%, has been a safe queen for quite a while.

I'm asking $1,850 shipped to your FFL. I see these guns selling in the $2K range, most I see listed on line have already been sold.

DF

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Posted By: JoshK Re: Browning BPCR 45-70 - 08/24/22
Beautiful!!!
Posted By: Dirtfarmer Re: Browning BPCR 45-70 - 08/24/22
Has Leupold screw in lens covers.

Check out those WT and hog slayers. I blew lung tissue out the far chest wall on a young hog. His rib cage had fracture lines radiating out from the exit hole in multiple directions, sorta like a broken glass window. Amazing bullet. And the 2,550 fps is Barnes Marlin load, not the Ruger #1 load, although the 1885 action is stronger than the Marlin, this load was powerful enough for what I was wanting to do. I never clocked it, but it may be faster than that out of the 30" barrel. Barnes data was from a shorter tube. The load is 53 gr. Vv 120 with .05" jump.

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Posted By: bmw540 Re: Browning BPCR 45-70 - 08/24/22
Gorgeous falling block!
Posted By: Dirtfarmer Re: Browning BPCR 45-70 - 08/24/22
Thanks,

The 1885 is a strong action, maybe not full Ruger #1 strength, but probably pretty close.

Most of these don't have the best trigger. This one does.

Not sure what the previous owner did, but it sure worked.

DF
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Posted By: Paul39 Re: Browning BPCR 45-70 - 08/24/22
Beautiful rifle, and very fairly priced.

I have owned a few of these Brownings, and if I were in the market for one like this I would grab it in an instant. Here's why. These Brownings came with a Soule type tang sight. Very cool and correct, but they were made by a contractor for Browning, and not the greatest example of this type sight. The weak point is the leaf spring that functions as a detent. They tend to fatigue and break, and to the best of my knowledge, replacements aren't available.

This particular rifle offers two good options to a buyer. Either keep it with the very nice Leupold scope, or sell the scope and get one of the better tang sights currently on the market. For a Soule I'd go with a Steve Baldwin, MVA or Kelley. My personal preference is the Hoke, which is not a Soule, but a vernier for both windage and elevation. Important to a lefty like me, the Hoke, and I believe the Baldwin, are engraved on both sides. There are several good options for a front globe sight. Baldwin and Shaver are two. Buffalo Arms carries an extensive line of BPCR stuff, including sights.
Posted By: Dirtfarmer Re: Browning BPCR 45-70 - 08/24/22
Good thoughts. I’d think the Leupold would bring enough to make a big dent in the cost of a top end tang sight.

DF
Posted By: Dirtfarmer Re: Browning BPCR 45-70 - 08/24/22
Picture from the original owner and seller when I bought it.

Shows wood pretty well.

DF

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Fine looking shooting iron there for sure. Beautiful wood on that gun
Posted By: Bugger Re: Browning BPCR 45-70 - 08/24/22
Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Thanks,

The 1885 is a strong action, maybe not full Ruger #1 strength, but probably pretty close.

Most of these don't have the best trigger. This one does.

Not sure what the previous owner did, but it sure worked.

DF

There’s a pretty easy way to modify the trigger on these. It involves limiting the sear engagement. My brother did his and mine. No machining is needed.

BTW: that is a really decent price, even more so because of the beautiful wood. I don’t think I’d sell my 1885 45-90 for that!
Posted By: one horn Re: Browning BPCR 45-70 - 08/24/22
I’ll take it. PM coming your way
Posted By: 2alphas2 Re: Browning BPCR 45-70 - 08/24/22
That is a stunning package.

Congrats on the sale and on the purchase!
Posted By: G8ters Re: Browning BPCR 45-70 - 08/24/22
Congratulations. I was getting weak with good wood 😳
Posted By: 1minute Re: Browning BPCR 45-70 - 08/24/22
Nice! Have a Sharps in 45-90 or I would have jumped too.
Posted By: Dirtfarmer Re: Browning BPCR 45-70 - 08/24/22
Sold to one horn.

I think he's gonna like it.

DF
Posted By: Dirtfarmer Re: Browning BPCR 45-70 - 08/24/22
Originally Posted by Paul39
This particular rifle offers two good options to a buyer. Either keep it with the very nice Leupold scope, or sell the scope and get one of the better tang sights currently on the market. For a Soule I'd go with a Steve Baldwin, MVA or Kelley. My personal preference is the Hoke, which is not a Soule, but a vernier for both windage and elevation. Important to a lefty like me, the Hoke, and I believe the Baldwin, are engraved on both sides. There are several good options for a front globe sight. Baldwin and Shaver are two. Buffalo Arms carries an extensive line of BPCR stuff, including sights.
Or keep the Leupold bases, use the tang sight with globe front and the scope for hunting or load development with the tang sight folded down. One could even replace the Leupold with a higher powered target scope for fine tuning loads.

A purist may not like the looks of those bases, but the tang sight, globe combo should be able to look over them. Or removed the bases, reattach for scope work.

Lots of options.

DF
Posted By: shoptom Re: Browning BPCR 45-70 - 08/24/22
Good to see such a nice rifle- and good load info too. Congrats to buyer and seller both.
Tom
Posted By: Paul39 Re: Browning BPCR 45-70 - 08/24/22
DF,

Good points. I'd doubt that one could see over the existing modern bases, but if not, they'd be easy to remove or reinstall. I'm not sure, but IIRC such bases are/were hard to find. Browning sold them as an accessory for a time, Browning marked but made by Leupold or Burris. Might have some resale value. As far as looks, one either cares or doesn't. Personal preference.

Another option is a vintage style scope with external adjustments. It would be necessary to drill and tap for bases, but Steve Earle makes a one piece adapter base for vintage mounts that uses the factory Browning base screw holes.

Anyone who owns or is seriously interested in the Browning BPCR should get a copy of The Browning Model 1885 Black Powder Cartridge Rifle by Wayne McClerran "Texas Mac". It's the definitive work on these rifles. Mac posts here occasionally. http://www.texas-mac.com/.

There are various approaches and opinions about the triggers, but the only one I have confidence in is Lee Shaver's trigger job. All of mine have had this done, and have never failed. Nice part is that all you have to do is remove the trigger and send it to Lee. Unlike the normal difficult Browning disassembly, removing the trigger is simple. Just remove the butt stock and drive out a loose cross pin. He regrinds the sear angle and sends a replacement spring. It is not adjustable.
Posted By: Dirtfarmer Re: Browning BPCR 45-70 - 08/24/22
Thanks for that info, Paul.

DF
Posted By: one horn Re: Browning BPCR 45-70 - 08/24/22
This is pretty cool. I’ve not seen so much helpful information in a sales ad. My plan is to use a MVA Soule (but I will check out the others mentioned) and globe front. Bases and scope are going to my traditional hunter.
Posted By: Paul39 Re: Browning BPCR 45-70 - 08/24/22
Besides Mac's book, there is a wealth of information on his aforementioned web site under Articles.
Posted By: Craigster Re: Browning BPCR 45-70 - 08/24/22
I have it's twin. You will enjoy your new acquisition.
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