my experience is it depends on the location. I personally have not had any issues doing labels from home and dropping off at UPS or Fedex
Does this impact Ship My Gun? That was easy through UPS
I shipped even this past week and no changes. As far as I know this has been there policy for years now at least published on paper
Somebody elaborate. Am I tripping or was there a Recent change? WTF over?
pretty sure this has been the policy for several years now. reality it depends on the location
When you use SHIPMYGUN.com, the package is being shipped by an FFL to the receiving FFL. That's the service you are paying for. You are simply dropping it off.
Somebody elaborate. Am I tripping or was there a Recent change? WTF over?
It is somewhat recent. I made a post about it and I THINK it was October 1 when it took affect. They will still ship it (the last I knew) but you had to schedule a pick up at your house..........for a STIFF additional charge. I mostly quit selling because of this.
It would be interesting to see how Boyd's and some of these shops are handling it. They don't have 9or need) an FFL for what they are selling but they are shipping gun "parts". It sucks donkey balls.
Here is the post I made about it back then:
https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt.../important-ups-update-today#Post17559517
This came up a short time back. It was all over youtube. (Hard to know if it's true) UPS made the claim that any firearms not shipped FFL to FFL would be seized/held/confiscated or some similar terminology. I can't remember the exact term they used. I backed off of Gunbroker over this issue. It's my understanding you have to take the gun to an FFL dealer where they log it in and then log it out to the recipients FFL. And, the sellers FFL has to be the shipper of record. The FFL dealers aren't processing and shipping for free! All of this gets real expensive real quick.
like i said i have shipped about 10 since january either sale or to gunsmiths and no issues at all so I do think its the policy in writing because it makes them feel good but in reality its way too much money to not do and it depends on people at a location. I mean I have had multiple warranty guns ship directly to me on return as well.
When you use SHIPMYGUN.com, the package is being shipped by an FFL to the receiving FFL. That's the service you are paying for. You are simply dropping it off.
Duh...you're right. I only use them once, and haven't paid any attention for a long while. It was easy and reasonable though. And UPS happily took the handgun.
I always drop mine off (already labeled) at the local drug store/ups drop off ….that’s down the street from my Bud’s ffl shop. Never had any issue. Maybe they assume it’s from the shop? I don’t know, and don’t care. I’ll likely keep doing it that way. Someone is going to charge them with firearm theft, or violating something, if they start ‘confiscating’ legally shipped items….UPS isn’t LE and if they didn’t refuse it to begin with, inform up front, or even ask a question about it during the label/shipping process, their ‘intended’ policy is pretty worthless IMO. Also, ATF regs state you can ship your firearms to yourself, without special labels, etc. AFAIK.
like i said i have shipped about 10 since january either sale or to gunsmiths and no issues at all so I do think its the policy in writing because it makes them feel good but in reality its way too much money to not do and it depends on people at a location. I mean I have had multiple warranty guns ship directly to me on return as well.
I always drop mine off (already labeled) at the local drug store/ups drop off ….that’s down the street from my Bud’s ffl shop. Never had any issue. Maybe they assume it’s from the shop? I don’t know, and don’t care. I’ll likely keep doing it that way. Someone is going to charge them with firearm theft, or violating something, if they start ‘confiscating’ legally shipped items….UPS isn’t LE and if they didn’t refuse it to begin with, inform up front, or even ask a question about it during the label/shipping process, their ‘intended’ policy is pretty worthless IMO. Also, ATF regs state you can ship your firearms to yourself, without special labels, etc. AFAIK.
Just wait until they lose one of your guns! Then you'll wish you followed their procedures. It's just a matter of time before we read about it here..
like i said i have shipped about 10 since january either sale or to gunsmiths and no issues at all so I do think its the policy in writing because it makes them feel good but in reality its way too much money to not do and it depends on people at a location. I mean I have had multiple warranty guns ship directly to me on return as well.
I always drop mine off (already labeled) at the local drug store/ups drop off ….that’s down the street from my Bud’s ffl shop. Never had any issue. Maybe they assume it’s from the shop? I don’t know, and don’t care. I’ll likely keep doing it that way. Someone is going to charge them with firearm theft, or violating something, if they start ‘confiscating’ legally shipped items….UPS isn’t LE and if they didn’t refuse it to begin with, inform up front, or even ask a question about it during the label/shipping process, their ‘intended’ policy is pretty worthless IMO. Also, ATF regs state you can ship your firearms to yourself, without special labels, etc. AFAIK.
Just wait until they lose one of your guns! Then you'll wish you followed their procedures. It's just a matter of time before we read about it here..
Yep, I agree. I could ship "Golf Clubs" and that is all well and fine until they are damaged or stolen. Then you are just [bleep] out of luck. I won't take that risk and will continue to just pay the over inflated USPS costs.
well i called about 20 FFL in DFW and not a single one will do an FFL to FFL transfer. They dont want the hassle. I have a C&R FFL 003. If it came to that I believe that should count as from an FFL to an FFL
well i called about 20 FFL in DFW and not a single one will do an FFL to FFL transfer. They dont want the hassle. I have a C&R FFL 003. If it came to that I believe that should count as from an FFL to an FFL
Sure you did.
Not sure why you don't believe that. There are hundreds of FFL in DFW . I had a guy from CA bid and buy a rifle off gbroker. He could not find an FFL that will receive from a non FFL in CA. I finally had to call and find one for him that would accept from an individual when the 20 ish closest dealers to me said they would not ship a gun for an individual. Every single one said not worth the hassle.
well i called about 20 FFL in DFW and not a single one will do an FFL to FFL transfer. They dont want the hassle. I have a C&R FFL 003. If it came to that I believe that should count as from an FFL to an FFL
ktk120, I believe you meant to say non-ffl to ffl transfer?
well i called about 20 FFL in DFW and not a single one will do an FFL to FFL transfer. They dont want the hassle. I have a C&R FFL 003. If it came to that I believe that should count as from an FFL to an FFL
ktk120, I believe you meant to say non-ffl to ffl transfer?
Yes thank you. Will not do a transfer on behalf of a non FFL is probably more accurate
1) ShipMyGun provides a list of FFL holders by zip code that have already agreed to receive your gun. They are listed in GREEN print and found during the SMG label creation process.
2) Ordering the UPS porch pickup is a separate transaction and you'll need a free UPS account with a credit card on file for billing.
3) My first UPS porch pickup was $14, the next two were both under $5. I don't know why the disparity but even $14 is a lot better than driving and rolling the dice at the Customer Counter. The SMG/UPS discount completely offsets the UPS pickup charge (which the buyer is paying anyway)...Tom
Another slap in the face for us: CABELAS/BASS PRO WILL NO LONGER SHIP TO HOME BASED FFL HOLDERS. Unreal!
You can't even trust FedEx. Had a friend who sent a couple of handguns to jack Huntington for work. On the return shipment from FedEx someone open the box and took one of the handguns and retake the box and shipped only one firearm to my body. Had to go through all the claims and such to finally get reimbursed for the missing handgun. Problem is to replace that handgun is getting harder to find on the used market.
I always drop mine off (already labeled) at the local drug store/ups drop off ….that’s down the street from my Bud’s ffl shop. Never had any issue. Maybe they assume it’s from the shop? I don’t know, and don’t care. I’ll likely keep doing it that way. Someone is going to charge them with firearm theft, or violating something, if they start ‘confiscating’ legally shipped items….UPS isn’t LE and if they didn’t refuse it to begin with, inform up front, or even ask a question about it during the label/shipping process, their ‘intended’ policy is pretty worthless IMO. Also, ATF regs state you can ship your firearms to yourself, without special labels, etc. AFAIK.
There is a legal issue with your plan. Fed law specifically states "Contact Carrier" is required to transport firearms. The UPS store type business is NOT a contract carrier. You must use the hub location or have the item picked up.