No affiliation, just passing along. 4 new 30mm offerings from Tract:

https://tractoptics.com/riflescopes/toric-30mm-hunting-scopes

They had trouble keeping what they previously made in stock. Maybe they will be able to keep these in stock.

I haven't seen, or heard of a piece of junk being offered under the Tract brand. I"m betting this will be a good one as well.

I wish they would make the 1" tube 2.5-10 with an illuminated center dot with and the T- Post reticle.

Not trying to rain on the Tract parade as I like to see more and more reliable scopes enter the marketplace; stiff competition benefits the end user.

I thought the initial non Japan Tract offerings gave some grief?

I think they covered the bases pretty well with these 4 offerings.

--FFP with MIL reticle and turrets, capped windage and zero stop elevation
--FFP MOA for the guys who don't do MIL.
--SFP with capped elevation and windage for the guys who don't want a big exposed elevation knob, plus a simple T-Plex reticle
--SFP with a BDC reticle for the guys who are really weird (sorry, had to! )

They check a lot of boxes for the different crowds. My ONLY gripe is the weight. 28oz is tough for me to accept. I was just getting over the fact that I had to go to a 18-20oz scope to get reliable adjustments and RTZ....a full half-pound more than that? Not sure I can accept that just yet.

They foolishly sent a used example of one of their low-end models to a member here and it failed the test, which was admittedly harsh, but part of that failure was that it simply was unable to produce groups matching the test rifle’s know capability. Might have been beat up by previous testers, simply defective, or not a good design. Never heard a complaint from a real user on any of the Tekoa or Toric scopes, and some have used them a good bit; Mule Deer for one. My use is limited so far, but I remain hopeful, and trust them to fix any issues.

My heaviest is 25oz. I think that 20oz is about my limit on a light rifle to avoid the combo being top-heavy. Part of that is also the mounting height, with some pretty heavy 1-8s still able to be mounted low. High and heavy could futz up the balance. Still, one reason for paying the high ticket for nice light rifles is so a dependable scope won’t add too much to one’s burden.

I was pretty excited to see these. Them being specifically listed as a 30mm HUNTING scope had me excited about reticles they might offer. After seeing the reticle it's not for me. I don't need to hold 10 mils of windage on either side of the crosshair. I've no need for a hunting reticle with 20 mil spacing between the posts. Looks like it might make a decent target reticle. It would be helpful to buyers if Tract (all manufactures actually) would post the subtensions of reticles as well.

Any company making a FFP HUNTING reticle should look at what Tangent Theta has done. 3.5 mrad on each side of the crosshair and bold enough to see. It's the best hunting reticle out there right now.

Bad to go from excited to pissed off about a product. I really shouldn't care about it.

At that price point, it's an easy pass for me. At 1k+ I'd rather drop a bit more and get a NF or S&B

Not what I was hoping for either.
I bet he’d sell way more scopes in $500 range that were little smaller lighter.
Give viper, vx3i or optika5 a little competition.
2-12x42 with 30 mm tube around That price point is wish list.

I actually thought the price was pretty good. $984 for a 2.5-15x44 with capped windage, zero stopped/locking elevation looks pretty attractive to me.

Looking forward to seeing how the capped illuminated T-Plex stacks up to its competition in that price range. Hopefully, the illumination isn't too bright for low light.

I will still give one a go. I completely agree with the reticle and it is a few ounces heavier than I would have asked for. I really like the other features and the power range. It won’t replace everything I use but I think it will work well for me on a medium weight sporter rifle.

Too heavy for me to be interested in a hunting rifle. Also, the elevation turret appears to be GINORMOUS. Reticle not appealing.
Several boxes checked, but big whiffs in some other aspects.

You can get a similar Leupold 5HD for that price, are they really better?

Tracts best offering's for a hunting scope is there 1" lines toric 3-15 tekoa 4-16

Perfect for my new 44mag carbine.

Apples and oranges here. But, I do have one of their new 1-8x24.
I am not much for tactical reticles. Though, I think I can live comfortably with this MILRAD version. The reticle is bold enough to see the aiming point very well in low light without illumination. The windage and elevation marks on this scope do not seem to distract me as clutter. Some of these type reticles, I do not care for.

The illumination intensity they got right for my eye. It goes low enough for low light use. The lowest setting is Very low, the mid to upper settings are certainly daylight visible. Though my interest was/is the lower settings in of lack of light conditions.

I preliminarily / non-expertly compared the optical view in lower light with an illuminated Swarovski 1-6x24 and a Leica Magnus 1-6.3x24. I liked it enough that I ordered another. I do not think that I will feel short-changed as to the optics for my hunting.

If they offered this scope with the T-Plex, illuminated or not it would be closer to my more traditional tastes. But, I have no issue putting this scope on an AR or a 416. The 4/3.9” eye relief I like, as well as the field of view.

Can't really bla.e them for the higher price point. But I too would buy a NF for that amount of money or a little more

People complaining about ounces. Lol.

Go buy a leupold, they are lightweight. Really robust too...lol.

I would rather it be closer to 20 ounces than closer to 30. I didn’t expect it to be any lighter or cheaper than it is. I will pre order one though. Not a complaint just kinda shooting the bull about a new scope is all.

I don't understand the hubble telescope concept on a hunting rifle. I do however like their scopes for a target rifle. The Nightforce SHV as an alternative is going backwards for more money.

Agree with a lot of what is posted here so far. Checks a lot of boxes, but misses the mark in certain areas as well. It seems like the scope a lot of us would be interested in, but after perusing the specs, I'll be passing for now for the following reasons:

Without seeing it up close, it's tough to say, but I'm figuring the reticle will leave some to be desired, especially on low X. The turret would be better low profile. For 28 ounces I'd just schlep an NF around and be done with it.

What they should've done was come out with something very similar to the discontinued Bushnell LRHS/LRTS 3-12. Rugged, reliable, nice overall size and weight. Good FFP reticles that were usable throughout the X range. Low profile, 10 mil per rev elevation turret. Good quality glass.

I hope they do well and I give them credit for expanding the hunting oriented FFP offerings.

What ever happened to Trevor? I miss that guy.
Always wondered why he quit posting here.

He went back to work for Leupold.

They certainly had my interest until I got to the weight. A Nightforce NX8 weighs 28 ounces. Granted it costs right at twice as much, but you could always use the Nightforce as a club if you were out of ammo and needed to beat something to death. I still think these will be good sellers though, but I am not banging down the door for one. If size and weight isn’t an issue I highly recommend their 34mm Toric 5.5-30x monster. It weighs around 36 ounces and is built like a tank. I was 100% impressed with it but returned it as the build I was planning didn’t work out.

TFF

BDC reticles are 25 year old technology. There is nothing more accurate or simple as using the dial. "Here, play with these unlabeled holdover dots and see if any match your gun" 🙄

I like to dial fine, but it is very easy to figure out where the bdc lines/dots fit your rifle.

And that is why they offer both. It doesn’t matter which is better if you have people wanting to buy both of them.

The Tract will not disappoint. I have both and the Tract is impressive when compared side by side

Literally, just ordered a Toric 3-15x44 for my PBGR.

BTW, if you are MIL/LE they offer a 15% discount

Do they track now?

https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/12361426/1

Me too.

If you ever tried one I dought you'd feel this way. I felt that way before I tried one. The glass is excellent and the tracking is dead on.

That was the Response model in 2017?

Has anyone done the same testing on a Toric?

I've owned a 3-15x50 for 4 years or so. I've had it on a Kimber Select 30-06 and now on a 35 Whelen. It rides in my truck 24/7 and I often change loads turn the turret to where each load zeros and without fail it adjust perfectly each time. It has held its zero perfectly over time.

I also own S&B, Nightforce and US Optics and the Tract Toric is on par with the top tier scopes IMHO&E

They should be priced about 4 to 6 hundred dollars....because that's what they are.

You got a one Track mind....

Comparing a Track scope to a Schmidt and Bender or a Nightforce is just plain stupid.

If I were you I'd sell the Schmidt and Benders and buy you some more junk Jap scopes

It was also a USED sample with no info on where/how it was used or abused before the test took place.

If you were me you would not be such a moron

Says the idiot that's never ever seen one in person

Throw another Track tantrum....

Used one - a Toric I believe. Too big of an eyepiece, wasn't happy with the field of view. Came in a really nice box. Pass the SWFA 3-9 and keep the Tract.

The love for Tract on this forum is weird. They put out a bunch of overly heavy tacticool scopes that aren't worth a damn for hunting rifles and the boys swoon.

They work perfectly for my hunting.
How is a 2-10 or 3-15 1" tube with capped turrets with a plex reticle a tacticl scope, per say

My 700 .308 weighs a whopping 7# 10oz. with the 2-10 Toric on top. Overly heavy 😂😂

Try and keep up - the new offerings are pigs.

And a nightforce isn't?

lol, good point!

Actually they have an app where it tells you what cartridge ,bullet ,FPS relates to the hash marks on your scope.

I actually like their scopes, but am not too crazy about their reticle selection.

I'd rather a Mil or MOA reticle to a BDC reticle. The caps can be removed and the turrets dialed fir long shots.

I'm trying to find which "manufacturer"/brand, whatever who has a new offering that isn't tacticool, a heavy pig, etc? Tract has excellent products and are great guys to deal with. Only those with actual experience with them would know that though, but I do understand you tried one, once, briefly, or whatever.

If you are worried about a few ounces on a durable scope, then maybe ya otta hit the gym. That is a moot argument to me. I never have chased light, in a rifle, or a scope. I will own what works the best for me and I am not picky, but "light" is not part of the criteria. On the other hand, I do not want a target-weight rifle, either.

Is it their Gen II Mil Dot reticle you refer to? Looks good to me. (I wish it was available on less expensive scopes)
https://www.swfa.com/media/catalog/...d27136e95/t/a/tan8001010002-r_5_1_10.jpg
Specs show 5 mrad on the side, which is still better than most.

It's the one in their Long Range Hunter....little different from the Gen II but I like it as well.

This one:

https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-kx6...7812456.1597682425-2089505659.1591276557

Beat me to it.

The thlr reticle is the best, in my opinion.

This and…
Illumination lacking on the FFP is also a non-starter.

Hard pass for $1k. Maybe a $700 scope.

Thanks Jordan and Jay for pointing out the LRH reticle.

I thought one model of the new Tract did have illumination

I will note that the inner subtensions might be considered a bit course for target/varmint work at long range by some. For hunting big game I think it's the best for everything from woods to open fields. I wish I could have that reticle in every hunting scope I own.

That’s crazy talk man. You can’t holdover at 1000 and hold wind for 100mph with that reticle.

Well it's probably way too "busy" for most here as it's not a German #4 or plain duplex....

To complain about ounces...literal ounces, hash marks at .2mils.....it's hilarious.

How about does the mf'er retain zero? Does it track? Does the erector work?


Nope. It ain't a 6oz plain duplex gold ringer....so it's garbage! Lol

Ounces

Weight watchers put cheaply made aluminum scope rings on their guns for that very reason.

And some guns never leave the shooting bench.

I agree 100%.