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Posted By: ldholton Why so little mention - 10/02/22
Of Steiner optics ?
Posted By: BobbyTomek Re: Why so little mention - 10/03/22
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It doesn't seem like Steiner ever made a big marketing push to win over the US riflescope market, and it doesn't help now that some of their best offerings -- like the Ranger 4 in the photos above -- can't be purchased here in the states. I like the discontinued NightHunter Xtreme series and used the 2-10x50 for a good while. When it came down to pure low-light performance, only a couple of scopes surpassed it -- and barely so, I might add.

The Ranger 4 outperforms the Conquest V4 and doesn't give up much to the alphas. The illumination system is terrific and adjusts extremely low. The reticle is a 4-a with just a center dot that illuminated.

Another factor to consider is that many folks are creatures of habit and won't try a new or different brand.
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Posted By: 338rcm Re: Why so little mention - 10/03/22
I used a Steiner Predator 4 4-16x50 - scope for a while. I liked everything about it except its size and weight. Great glass and build quality
Posted By: navlav8r Re: Why so little mention - 10/03/22
I have a couple of Night Hunters and they are excellent for low light right at sunset. They are slightly heavy but excellent optics.
Posted By: ldholton Re: Why so little mention - 10/03/22
I just picked up a GS3 4-20x50 I don't remember the name of the reticle but it's geared to a 22-250 and that's exactly what I put it on.. for $560
Posted By: Pappy348 Re: Why so little mention - 10/03/22
How about their binos? I see good reviews of the old porro-prism models, but no one admits to using them. I know they’re kinda big and bulky, but how do they perform optically?
Posted By: JamieB Re: Why so little mention - 10/03/22
I am super bummed out that Nikon stopped making scopes. I have some monarch binos that I adore and their last hunting scope was just this swan song….the Monarch M5 scope was incredible and an excellent value. That being said, glad some of the guys from Nikon started Tract…..love that company, their scopes and binos. Also, they are super responsive and helpful when you call or email.
Posted By: ShaunRyan Re: Why so little mention - 10/03/22
Originally Posted by Pappy348
How about their binos? I see good reviews of the old porro-prism models, but no one admits to using them. I know they’re kinda big and bulky, but how do they perform optically?

I'd like to hear some firsthand experience as well. Looking for a 10X42 and they're on the radar.
Posted By: SCgman1 Re: Why so little mention - 10/03/22
GS3 2-10x42 here.....other than the zoom ring being a bit stiff at the midrange.......no complaints.

Have taken several whitetails with it on a 3006 TC Icon.
Posted By: Pappy348 Re: Why so little mention - 10/03/22
Originally Posted by ShaunRyan
Originally Posted by Pappy348
How about their binos? I see good reviews of the old porro-prism models, but no one admits to using them. I know they’re kinda big and bulky, but how do they perform optically?

I'd like to hear some firsthand experience as well. Looking for a 10X42 and they're on the radar.

My brother bought a pair of the armored 8x30s back in the 80s. Kinda neat, but my 7x50 Swifts were better optically (and are still in use, just not carried around). The new ones look pretty good, and porros are supposed to be bargains compared to roof-prisms, just not trendy and compact. I think the Military 10x50s are about $500 on Amazon.
I bought some 10x42 Predator binos back in 2005/6. They are good binos. Shortly after buying those I looked thru a friends swaro ELs.
I bought a set of 8.5x42 Els the next week. I woukd probably still be using the Predators if I hadn't looked thru those ELs. I carry the Predators
In my gear box in AGC harness for spares or loaners.
Posted By: boatboy Re: Why so little mention - 10/03/22
I have been using Steiner Binos for the last few years
I don’t recall the model but they are mid grade they were about 1000 I have been pretty happy with them overall

Hank
Posted By: Schmidtx2 Re: Why so little mention - 10/03/22
Bought my first steiner binoculars 35ish years ago, military marine 7x35 autofocus. Bought the same model a few years back when the original was stolen. Absolutely my favorite semi compact general purpose bino, cheap enough to leave in the truck and they can take a direct lawnmower blade strike incase you have children.
Posted By: gr8fuldoug Re: Why so little mention - 10/03/22
Steiner has always, and still, makes quality products. They REALLY need a better marketing campaign. I've told Steiner many times that they need to make a bigger splash with their advertising. It's an uphill battle discussing these things with the Germans as they don't look at this the same way American marketing does. They feel the excellent quality speaks for itself. The Steiner Predator Series binoculars and riflescopes offer great quality and features
Posted By: ldholton Re: Why so little mention - 10/03/22
Originally Posted by gr8fuldoug
Steiner has always, and still, makes quality products. They REALLY need a better marketing campaign. I've told Steiner many times that they need to make a bigger splash with their advertising. It's an uphill battle discussing these things with the Germans as they don't look at this the same way American marketing does. They feel the excellent quality speaks for itself. The Steiner Predator Series binoculars and riflescopes offer great quality and features
I'd like to hear more from you on the GS3 series that I think they no longer make....
Posted By: gr8fuldoug Re: Why so little mention - 10/03/22
Originally Posted by ldholton
Originally Posted by gr8fuldoug
Steiner has always, and still, makes quality products. They REALLY need a better marketing campaign. I've told Steiner many times that they need to make a bigger splash with their advertising. It's an uphill battle discussing these things with the Germans as they don't look at this the same way American marketing does. They feel the excellent quality speaks for itself. The Steiner Predator Series binoculars and riflescopes offer great quality and features
I'd like to hear more from you on the GS3 series that I think they no longer make....

We purchased all the remaining inventory of the Steiner GS3's and are down to the last of the 2-10x42's which we are blowing out for only $599.99

These scopes are excellent hunting scopes. Quality through and through. Clean reticle, great optically, well constructed. I cannot think of a downside, 30mm tube, 18 ounces, dependable
Posted By: T_Inman Re: Why so little mention - 10/03/22
My experience is mainly with their roof prism upper end models….the Peregrine 10x42 and its successor the Wildlife.

Short answer is, my Swaro EL rarely leaves the safe anymore, for multiple reasons. I prefer 15X for general big game hunting, but when 10X is called for my Steiner gets to nod every time in anything resembling bad weather. The bino strap pocket broke on my Peregrine and for whatever reason it couldn’t be repaired so Steiner sent me a brand new pair of the Wildlife, since the Peregrine had been discontinued. There was absolutely zero issues with the glass on the Peregrine when this exchange happened so it didn’t leave me hanging.

The twist up eye cups suck ass, however. I don’t use them though so it is a moot point to me.
Posted By: ldholton Re: Why so little mention - 10/03/22
Originally Posted by gr8fuldoug
Originally Posted by ldholton
Originally Posted by gr8fuldoug
Steiner has always, and still, makes quality products. They REALLY need a better marketing campaign. I've told Steiner many times that they need to make a bigger splash with their advertising. It's an uphill battle discussing these things with the Germans as they don't look at this the same way American marketing does. They feel the excellent quality speaks for itself. The Steiner Predator Series binoculars and riflescopes offer great quality and features
I'd like to hear more from you on the GS3 series that I think they no longer make....

We purchased all the remaining inventory of the Steiner GS3's and are down to the last of the 2-10x42's which we are blowing out for only $599.99

These scopes are excellent hunting scopes. Quality through and through. Clean reticle, great optically, well constructed. I cannot think of a downside, 30mm tube, 18 ounces, dependable
Awesome.
I have read Internet babble but these are the same as a Burris "". " But with German glass. Is any truth to this? And I believe they are made and assembled in the United States with German glass?
Posted By: gr8fuldoug Re: Why so little mention - 10/03/22
Originally Posted by ldholton
Originally Posted by gr8fuldoug
Originally Posted by ldholton
Originally Posted by gr8fuldoug
Steiner has always, and still, makes quality products. They REALLY need a better marketing campaign. I've told Steiner many times that they need to make a bigger splash with their advertising. It's an uphill battle discussing these things with the Germans as they don't look at this the same way American marketing does. They feel the excellent quality speaks for itself. The Steiner Predator Series binoculars and riflescopes offer great quality and features
I'd like to hear more from you on the GS3 series that I think they no longer make....

We purchased all the remaining inventory of the Steiner GS3's and are down to the last of the 2-10x42's which we are blowing out for only $599.99

These scopes are excellent hunting scopes. Quality through and through. Clean reticle, great optically, well constructed. I cannot think of a downside, 30mm tube, 18 ounces, dependable
Awesome.
I have read Internet babble but these are the same as a Burris "". " But with German glass. Is any truth to this? And I believe they are made and assembled in the United States with German glass?

Yes, German optics assembled in CO
Posted By: Buck56 Re: Why so little mention - 10/04/22
I purchased Ranger 6 3-18x56 and really impressed with it. In fact, when Steiner introduced the Ranger 8 4-32x56 this year I reached out to request quote and was informed Steiner (Germany?) is no longer allowing export to the US. Steiner should consider adding the Ranger series here in the states.... these are very good hunting scopes.
Posted By: cdb Re: Why so little mention - 10/04/22
I thought Beretta owns Steiner.
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