https://www.arkenopticsusa.com/epl4-4-16x44-ffp-mil-vhr

Just saw that myself. Almost wanna get one on order to check it out..

Dang! Lots of features for the money.

They say Japanese glass, but is the scope manufactured in Japan? I’m not seeing country of origin in the specs.

My old eyes cannot take advantage of the busy reticles. I have heard/read good things about Arken scopes. A dealer that I know, puts them on the same quality as Athlon.

half mil hashes and center-only illumination is hardly what I'd call busy....

How do they track?

China.

Thank you. Too bad.

Truly. I've not used any Arken's scopes so I can't say anything about them aside from what you said.


I like the inner "dot" and plex.

I prefer closer spacing on the outer bars (~3-3.5 mils left/right) and them being solid all the way in. I'll never need that much windage but closer outer bars often helps me in low light and broken backgrounds. Still looks like a usable reticle.

I think I like it and want to try one.

Drat.

Same here.

We might ought to get one ordered before they have a run on them? Be nice to check it out before Black Friday too.

4-6 week lead time.

I have a couple of the Arken SP4 scopes and have been very happy with them so far. Took me a very short bit to get used to the reticles, but now I'm pretty tuned in to them. Tracking is accurate and return to zero is very good. A very good zero stop system also....

So much for that then. Guess I should read and not just look at pictures haha

It would be interesting to see what that reticle looked like at 4x. I suspect you cannot see it early and late.

I can’t imagine the lit portion disappearing

Got one or ten on order yet? Not exactly a lightweight, but not heavy either. I might need one for my RRA Coyote rifle since it is not exactly light either.

I ordered a coupla days ago. Hint.

I have better than a dozen of said reticle in 16x 34mm and it's Skookum. Gonna be tough to beat Athlon Gen2 2-12x mannerisms,with both locking turrets,10yd parralax,illumination and 35+ Mil's on the erector. I have them in double digits too. Hint..................

23.7 oz. Not bad.

Athlon's zero stop is superior. Locking both windage and elevation don't suck. Hint..................

I will get one. The non locking windage doesn’t matter since it’s capped. I do like the pop up style turret on the athlon. I just haven’t warmed up to it’s reticle but I haven’t spent much time with it either. 90% or more of the shots I take are with a MQ reticle and I guess that’s what I’m used to now. I would love nothing more than to see swfa make a few slight changes and I wouldn’t be looking anywhere else for a scope.

For anyone who has ordered one of these new models, is the Combo Pack worth the extra $40? I may need rings anyway, but was leaning toward the Burris signatures with inserts. Wonder how this will compare to a new to me Helos 2-12x that I really, really like so far.

yes

Yep. That's a 12oz saving vs. SH4. Refreshing to see a 30mm tube from Arken.

Chicom made scopes will never be popular with me!

It's simply a Global Economy and both Arken and Athlon shoot clean,on the who,what,when and where...while Burris,NightFarce,Reupold and the like do not. Hint.

Though I actually shoot,which GREATLY skews things. HINT.............

I hate China too and look for "Made in USA". Hunt around and you can find a video. Taken at the Shot show, one of Arken's main guys being interviewed about the then new EP 5-25 scopes. Arken has it's own manufacturing facility in China and gets ED lenses from Japan for that scope, they didn't just have some Chinese scope company making them. Those 5-25's are very nice to look through, also big honkers. Helluva deal at that price. I also have an SH 6-24 which I'm thinking has Chinese glass but is also a really nice scope, and a great deal at the current price. Now this new EPL series has Japanese ED glass and a Burris Signature - sized 30mm tube, at a very good price. Being a bit nicer size and with higher end glass than the SH scopes, they should be popular. I'm waiting on one. Great company to deal with....email them and get a response almost immediately.

Absolutely!!!

Everyone who competes in long range practical rifle, PRS, or simply wants the best optic to engage and put impacts on small targets waaaaay out there is using a $300 POS on their precision rifle.

LMFAO!

camuglia is the prototypical internet badasss. He's a 5'6" 145lb worm, but his mouth thinks he's 6'4" and 245. Talk about LMAO......!!!

Lol. Dreamer.

Symptoms of Napolean Complex...Little Man's Syndrome
The most obvious characteristic of Napoleon syndrome is the smaller height in male individuals. They are commonly perceived as aggressive, loud and talkative that require additional attention in order to attempt to prove themselves.

You were close you shriveled old fuggg. I’m 6’2” and 220. You’re close to me in west Texas. You want to meet for lunch and discuss it?

Are you cooking for him?

Yep, shriveled up to 6'2" and 240 at age 62. Bring some help, and a sack lunch, and your Blue Cross Blue Shield card.

Address?

Shoot me a PM when you get here. Give me plenty of time so I can get good and scared.

Spineless pussy

I"ve seen your pics.....you ain't whoopin' anybody, except for Happy Camper maybe.

Hey, dammit.... You got him mistaken for ME.....bwahaha

No way Don....you tower over his scrawny asss. He may be able to whip Burns, maybe.

All the more reason for you to check it out in person.

Address?

Post your address you big mouthed COWARD

Napolean......very short of stature, very tall on ego, and mouth.

Obvious for ever here to see that’s YOU

God, I love this place.

😁

Now Camuglia is tryina start an innernet fight?

You gotta be schidting me?

End one.

Chit, I’ll go there at my expense and even buy him lunch at his fave spot! What’s the risk?

Half man has had too many Bud Lights obviously.

If they have Viking food, count me in!

It’s On!!

Chickenshit big mouthed snatch

Lol.

We can make it happen. Post your address.

COWARD

Uncle Johnny you get those bullets today? I know ya needed 100 but I sent ya 200👊🏻

Meant to text you Jud......yes I got them. Much appreciated Amigo!

LMAO

Keep dreaming. Then post your address so you can experience reality

COWARD

Note to self.... Don't PO JG. He'll dorf toss the hell outta ya, or pick you up by the head if you make him mad.

The only head he’ll go for is on your dick

Lucky for me I'll be mule deer hunting the next couple of days. Maybe mighty mouth will cool off by then.

That's the guy threatening to whip my azz? Seriously? What's he gonna do beat me with a lasagna tray?

Chickenshit pussy. You do belong on the [bleep] list

Beat your ass? Where do you get that?

I’m buying lunch!!!

Hell ya!!

Hate to leave the fun, but I'm heading out early in the am. Drink lots of water camuglia and you won't be as hung over as normal.

Keep posting threatening gifs you backpedaling COWARD

Gotta hand it to ya camuglia. You've really handled this situation like the mature adult that you are. Well done sir.

This is what started it you “mature” prick

😂

LMAO ! Damnit JG ! Made me snort ice water out of my nose ! 😂

nuh uh.

When I read this post, I’d have bet money he was talking about Little Stick. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

This is great.... I am entertained

Can you imagine the level of entertainment if the COWARD let’s me buy him lunch and we film it???

Awesome

Well ths thread went to schit with the two pencildicks trying to get their internet ego stroked... laughing

The 2 idiot posters are really stupid,.... as their posts show. I think they could F U C K U P a free turkey dinner.

You fellers could settle your differences with a nail driving contest using your favorite scopes.

I saw it in video once.

Rex address's this very issue.... kinda funny watching it play out in real time....
Oh and Rick, if I insult you will you drive up and buy me lunch?


Linky.....

Dam, we’re close, 5’8” 160# here.

See what you started?😂

Don’t start SLM…. I’m coming to NM next

You better practice falling down.

Whadda ya got for lunch specials???? I’ll pre order….

I know a place that has good quiche and tofu burgers.

You might want to bring a straw though.

Never mind. Food sounds like hell…. I’m not taking a whooping for quiche.

Camuglia trolling for a date.

TFF!

Taco Bell has the Mexican Pizza again. That’s where I’d go.

Evidently Rick is famous.

Camuglia swiped right.

LOL

Is that tinder or grinder?

LOL

Looks good to me. China does not bother me. Look at the Athlon BTR 2-12. China made and worked very well for me.

Looking it over, that scope sure tics the boxes.

It looks more appealing every time I check the specs.

Typical Chinese scope thread. LOL

Anyone drop tested one of these?

HTF could they? Won't even be out for a month or so, if you bothered to read.

Yeah I read that. There’s not a single one out in public?

I got suckered in. I got one on backorder I guess we shall see how it goes. I also got a 6-24 SH4 for my 22 lr and a 4-16 for a 22-250. Not exactly needing super robust or lightweight for either of these particular rifles. The new EPL is gonna go on a 300 WSM that currently has a 2-12 Helos on it so we shall see.