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Posted By: boatboy Tract scopes - 02/17/24
Can anyone that has one or more give me feedback on Tract scopes
They have a new one coming out that really has my eye
It has a bunch of features that look perfect to me
I assume Japanese SCHOTT HT (high transmission) glass
Is going to really be awesome

Experiences?

Hank
Posted By: RicG Re: Tract scopes - 02/17/24
I have the Toric HD in 2.5-10x42. It’s a keeper. Great glass and tracks well. I do wish, however, it were a touch lighter.
Posted By: bowmanh Re: Tract scopes - 02/17/24
I have three Tract Toric HD 2.5-10x42's. So far they have been great; very good glass and reliable tracking.
Posted By: Just a Hunter Re: Tract scopes - 02/17/24
I have a 2.5-10x42, a 3-15x42 and a 4-20x50 and a 10x40 binocular. All great glass and trac well for what little I do. However, I do not like the extremely small dot in the 4-20. It is too small for my eye.
Posted By: Motown Re: Tract scopes - 02/17/24
Any insight on what the new model is gonna be? I have a few Tract’s and have nothing but good luck with them.
Posted By: bellydeep Re: Tract scopes - 02/17/24
Never owned one.

Lots of guys seem to like them.

Stick doesn’t.

JB has good things to say.
Posted By: lone wolf Re: Tract scopes - 02/17/24
Originally Posted by boatboy
Can anyone that has one or more give me feedback on Tract scopes
They have a new one coming out that really has my eye
It has a bunch of features that look perfect to me
I assume Japanese SCHOTT HT (high transmission) glass
Is going to really be awesome

Experiences?

Hank

Hank do you know what the specs are on there new scope?
Posted By: devnull Re: Tract scopes - 02/17/24
I have two; a Toric 4-20x50 and a Toric ELR 4-25x50. I like them both alot but prefer the 4-25x50. There is less tunneling in the FOV with the 4-25x50. It is a cousin to the Zeiss S3 4-25. Glass is extremely clear and have had no issues with tracking. You get a lot for your money with Tract. In comparison, I also have a Nightforce SHV 4-14 F1 and it doesn't even compare for the same price.
Posted By: 22250rem Re: Tract scopes - 02/17/24
Got a Tract 22 Fire 4-12x 40mm scope on my CZ-455 in 22LR. Got it used last spring and I've really gotten fond of it. I know it's not gonna get subjected to tough recoil on a .22, but the glass is great and I like the feel of the adjustments. So far I'm happy but I have no long term experience with any Tract products.
Posted By: KH1473 Re: Tract scopes - 02/17/24
Have 3 and all have performed very well. I’ve intentionally been rough on 2 of em, a 2-10 and 3-15 and both have presented no issues with their erector set up
Posted By: boatboy Re: Tract scopes - 02/17/24
https://tractoptics.com/tekoa-hd-4-16x44-bdc

This is a 4 to 16 I like most everything about it including the reticle
I like the 44 obj typically don’t like or need 50s

I am in the Midwest we don’t shoot miles (I know some do) but my shooting is 300 max typically
This scope really had my attention

I would appreciate input

Hank
Posted By: tx270 Re: Tract scopes - 02/17/24
Originally Posted by boatboy
https://tractoptics.com/tekoa-hd-4-16x44-bdc

This is a 4 to 16 I like most everything about it including the reticle
I like the 44 obj typically don’t like or need 50s

I am in the Midwest we don’t shoot miles (I know some do) but my shooting is 300 max typically
This scope really had my attention

I would appreciate input

Hank

That is a great scope, I have one. Good glass, tracks very well. Its the third Tract I have experience with. Great scope IMO.

Bill
Posted By: POKERFACE6 Re: Tract scopes - 02/17/24
Originally Posted by 22250rem
Got a Tract 22 Fire 4-12x 40mm scope on my CZ-455 in 22LR. Got it used last spring and I've really gotten fond of it. I know it's not gonna get subjected to tough recoil on a .22, but the glass is great and I like the feel of the adjustments. So far I'm happy but I have no long term experience with any Tract products.

I have been looking at those for a 10/22 I am working on , Thanks for the info... Joe
Posted By: Darryle Re: Tract scopes - 02/17/24
I have 7 Toric scopes and 3 Turion, I like them and that is all that matters. They have done everything I have asked them to do.
Posted By: shelton573 Re: Tract scopes - 02/20/24
Originally Posted by boatboy
https://tractoptics.com/tekoa-hd-4-16x44-bdc

This is a 4 to 16 I like most everything about it including the reticle
I like the 44 obj typically don’t like or need 50s

I am in the Midwest we don’t shoot miles (I know some do) but my shooting is 300 max typically
This scope really had my attention

I would appreciate input

Hank

I have one of these on an old 788 in 222 Remington. Only difference from the one you are looking at is mine has the T-plex reticle. Very good glass, very good tracking so far for what I’ve done. My only complaint is the reticle is way too thick for my liking. Makes punching paper a little tough. It is fine for coyote hunting and other small game though. I’m not sure if the BDC you are looking at is a thinner reticle or not. With that being said, the reticle don’t bother me too bough to get rid of it. It will stay right where it’s at.
Posted By: Hondo64d Re: Tract scopes - 02/20/24
Originally Posted by boatboy
Can anyone that has one or more give me feedback on Tract scopes
They have a new one coming out that really has my eye
It has a bunch of features that look perfect to me
I assume Japanese SCHOTT HT (high transmission) glass
Is going to really be awesome

Experiences?

Hank

https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...ic-uhd-hunting-scope-review#Post17363385
Posted By: RiverRider Re: Tract scopes - 02/20/24
I have a Toric UHD 2-10x and a Response 4-16x. Neither has been used enough yet to make an original statement on durability (I just have too many rifles at this point, that's one reason I'm currently paring the collection down) but I have ZERO complaints except that I don't care for the reticle in the 4-16x which is my own fault---I shoulda known better. It's still a very useable scope and I consider both scopes to be outstanding for optical quality.
Posted By: 280Ackleyrized Re: Tract scopes - 02/20/24
I have a toric uhd 1" 3-15x42 on my 6.5 creed. T plex reticle. I'll own more in the future.
Posted By: Motown Re: Tract scopes - 02/20/24
Has anyone heard what new model they are coming out with like the OP mentioned?
Posted By: boatboy Re: Tract scopes - 02/20/24
Originally Posted by boatboy
https://tractoptics.com/tekoa-hd-4-16x44-bdc

This is a 4 to 16 I like most everything about it including the reticle
I like the 44 obj typically don’t like or need 50s

I am in the Midwest we don’t shoot miles (I know some do) but my shooting is 300 max typically
This scope really had my attention

I would appreciate input

Hank


Motown above is the link

Hank
Posted By: Motown Re: Tract scopes - 02/21/24
Originally Posted by boatboy
Originally Posted by boatboy
https://tractoptics.com/tekoa-hd-4-16x44-bdc

This is a 4 to 16 I like most everything about it including the reticle
I like the 44 obj typically don’t like or need 50s

I am in the Midwest we don’t shoot miles (I know some do) but my shooting is 300 max typically
This scope really had my attention

I would appreciate input

Hank


Motown above is the link

Hank

Thanks Hank!
Posted By: cra1948 Re: Tract scopes - 02/21/24
I got a Toric 2-10 for a .308 last fall. Great optically. Dialed in very easily sighting in. Killed one deer with it. Probably only have about 25 rounds with it so far, so no measure of durability, but very pleased with it thus far and expect to get more as the need arises.
Posted By: bugs4 Re: Tract scopes - 02/21/24
Now if they would just come out with a nice straight 6x, perhaps with a copy of Leupold's LRD reticle
Posted By: Mideer3006 Re: Tract scopes - 02/21/24
Any experience with the older Turions ?
Posted By: 257Bob Re: Tract scopes - 02/21/24
These guys use them.

Posted By: GrimJim Re: Tract scopes - 02/22/24
Originally Posted by bugs4
Now if they would just come out with a nice straight 6x, perhaps with a copy of Leupold's LRD reticle

A Tract Toric 6x42 with the T-Plex reticle would be delightful to a niche market. I am part of that niche, but I am not going to hold my breath until I am blue in the face waiting for it to appear. I am just hanging on to my remaining Meopta 6x42's and thankful for my Toric 2-10x42's, which are set at 10x for the range and 6x for the field.

GrimJim
Posted By: BlackBranchFarm Re: Tract scopes - 02/22/24
I have a 3-15 x 42 toric with t-plex reticle. I have used it on a couple of rifles as well as a backup smallbore silhouette rifle. It works ok, glass is good, reticle is perfect for woods hunting. I don't like the weight, and thus don't use it anymore. Has been sitting in a box in the safe for a couple of years now. I'd be glad to sell it for half price if someone wants to try one out. email is [email protected]
Posted By: Dietz Re: Tract scopes - 02/25/24
I have 2 Tract Torics. A 3x15x50 and 3X15X42. I am pleased with both of them. Glass is fine and they track well. They are heavy and they have great customer service.
Posted By: Pappy348 Re: Tract scopes - 02/25/24
Originally Posted by bugs4
Now if they would just come out with a nice straight 6x, perhaps with a copy of Leupold's LRD reticle

Yeah. Leupold was selling so many of those that they ran out of places to stash the money, so they had to discontinue them……
Posted By: GrimJim Re: Tract scopes - 02/25/24
Originally Posted by Pappy348
Originally Posted by bugs4
Now if they would just come out with a nice straight 6x, perhaps with a copy of Leupold's LRD reticle

Yeah. Leupold was selling so many of those that they ran out of places to stash the money, so they had to discontinue them……

The market for a 6x42 is indeed a niche market, but it is a niche market from which Leupold walked away. Decades ago, when they were very popular, you could get then in a choice of matte or gloss to match your rifle. Customers could select a very nice duplex or a heavy duplex. Their custom shop could provide other reticles, including a very nice post and duplex, which was very similar to the Tract T-Plex. At its demise, you could get any kind you wanted as long as it was matte finish with a wide duplex reticle. The basic mechanical set up that focused by turning the entire eyepiece had not changed since it first entered production.

There does not appear to be a case for return on investment for development and production of another 6x42, particularly when you can get a better return on investment by catering to the precision rifle shooting and long range hunting markets these days.
Posted By: Pappy348 Re: Tract scopes - 02/25/24
Originally Posted by GrimJim
Originally Posted by Pappy348
Originally Posted by bugs4
Now if they would just come out with a nice straight 6x, perhaps with a copy of Leupold's LRD reticle

Yeah. Leupold was selling so many of those that they ran out of places to stash the money, so they had to discontinue them……

The market for a 6x42 is indeed a niche market, but it is a niche market from which Leupold walked away. Decades ago, when they were very popular, you could get then in a choice of matte or gloss to match your rifle. Customers could select a very nice duplex or a heavy duplex. Their custom shop could provide other reticles, including a very nice post and duplex, which was very similar to the Tract T-Plex. At its demise, you could get any kind you wanted as long as it was matte finish with a wide duplex reticle. The basic mechanical set up that focused by turning the entire eyepiece had not changed since it first entered production.

There does not appear to be a case for return on investment for development and production of another 6x42, particularly when you can get a better return on investment by catering to the precision rifle shooting and long range hunting markets these days.

I suppose I’m kind of a niche market myself, with three fixed 6x scopes actually mounted on rifles I shoot, though no Leupolds. Gotta assume Leupold, along with just about everyone else making scopes, are focused on where the sales are, variables.
Posted By: mtech Re: Tract scopes - 03/10/24
I sent you a PM Blackbranch.
Posted By: Darryle Re: Tract scopes - 03/11/24
Originally Posted by Mideer3006
Any experience with the older Turions ?

Best scope they ever produced, just received one from eBay and would glady buy more if they were available.
Posted By: Mideer3006 Re: Tract scopes - 03/11/24
Blackbranch sent you an email.
Posted By: Mideer3006 Re: Tract scopes - 03/11/24
What's the difference between the toric and tekoa?
Is the toric worth the extra $$.
Posted By: cra1948 Re: Tract scopes - 03/11/24
Originally Posted by Mideer3006
What's the difference between the toric and tekoa?
Is the toric worth the extra $$.

If you look on their website, they describe the the Toric as being built in Japan by "the world's leading optical manufacturer." They describe Tekoa as being built in Japan by "one of the world's leading optical manufacturers." This would strongly suggest to me that the Toric is built by LOW and the Tekoa by someone else.
Posted By: tx270 Re: Tract scopes - 03/11/24
Originally Posted by Mideer3006
What's the difference between the toric and tekoa?
Is the toric worth the extra $$.

I have both. From what I understand, the only differences is the Toric has UHD/ED glass and the Tekoa does not, both use Schott glass.
The Toric comes with the tall locking turret kit standard, with the Tekoa you have to pay extra for it.

I can tell you the Tekoa glass is still damn good. Mechanics seem identical, both track spot on.
I thought they were both made by LOW, and the glass was the only difference, but I could be wrong. They seem identical otherwise.

Bill
Posted By: boatanchor Re: Tract scopes - 03/11/24
Originally Posted by tx270
Originally Posted by Mideer3006
What's the difference between the toric and tekoa?
Is the toric worth the extra $$.

I have both. From what I understand, the only differences is the Toric has UHD/ED glass and the Tekoa does not, both use Schott glass.
The Toric comes with the tall locking turret kit standard, with the Tekoa you have to pay extra for it.

I can tell you the Tekoa glass is still damn good. Mechanics seem identical, both track spot on.
I thought they were both made by LOW, and the glass was the only difference, but I could be wrong. They seem identical otherwise.

Bill

There is one other difference, the Toric line is Graphite colored and the Tekoa is black
Tract makes a lower line the Response that is made in the Philippines. I have one on a truck gun and it is still pretty good
If you have the money get the Toric
Posted By: kenjs1 Re: Tract scopes - 03/19/24
Also - think Tekoa are all one inch tubes whereas Toric are 'mostly' 30mm.
I have the 2.5-15x44 FFP Toric UHD scope and the short of it is the glass and features are great but the scope doesn't hold zero under impacts. Clear glass, adjusts correctly and returns to zero under regular use, the FFP reticle is simple and works well, turret lock is good and all of the adjustments are smooth and well dampened. However, I had my rifle fall off a 4.5 foot high ladder onto river rock and the scope shifted zero 1.3mils. Rezeroed, no issues, then a couple months later the rifle was in a quick release sling on my pack and the release popped and it fell to the ground, probably a 3 foot fall. Zero shifted 0.4 mils that time. Bummer because it is pretty close to my ideal hunting scope if it could hold zero under hard use.
Posted By: OSU_Sig Re: Tract scopes - 03/19/24
Originally Posted by kenjs1
Also - think Tekoa are all one inch tubes whereas Toric are 'mostly' 30mm.
The Toric hunting scopes are 1" tubes but the newer, PRS type scopes are 30mm with one 34mm.
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