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Posted By: Beaver10 Scope Reticles...WTF? - 07/06/19
I know, I know....Reticles are subjective and used to expedite targeting at various ranges. But, some reticles seem like a mathematical equation requiring a solution be solved before squeezing a trigger.

Best example is a Horus Reticle. Is a shooter working against the clock on target acquisition then shot placement really benefiting himself when a reticle is plastered with teeny-tinny dots and hash marks arranged in a pyramid that likely covers a small piece of steel he needs to hit at 800, 900 or 1000 plus yards?

Wouldn’t a simple Mils reticle with reduced windshield clutter be easier to work with? I suspect this might be the case since I’ve seen several Horus reticled scopes come up for sale “as-new” and not much buying interest.

For dialers who hunt the same reticle they use for practice and play....What’s your favorite reticle?

Mine is a Mil-Quad or Mil-Dot reticle.

😎
Posted By: mikieb Re: Scope Reticles...WTF? - 07/06/19
I prefer the LRD in the Leupold line.... I have it in a FXIII 6X42 and I just love it... quick... easy.... minimal thinking.... no cranking, no dialing... no tricky math...

I have no idea why they dropped it from their product line up... but you can still order it thru the custom shop on their website.

I sight my gun in with the first dot under the cross hairs, I need it to hit dead on at 300 yards. The next dot is good for 400 yards.... every thing under 250 yards gets the cross hairs.

I make some crazy shots with that gun.
Posted By: Filaman Re: Scope Reticles...WTF? - 07/06/19
Originally Posted by mikieb
I prefer the LRD in the Leupold line.... I have it in a FXIII 6X42 and I just love it... quick... easy.... minimal thinking.... no cranking, no dialing... no tricky math...

I have no idea why they dropped it from their product line up... but you can still order it thru the custom shop on their website.

I sight my gun in with the first dot under the cross hairs, I need it to hit dead on at 300 yards. The next dot is good for 400 yards.... every thing under 250 yards gets the cross hairs.

I make some crazy shots with that gun.


Sounds like something I would want. I don't need a radar screen. My shots usually present themselves pretty quick, faster than my mind does math, LOL!!!
Posted By: atse Re: Scope Reticles...WTF? - 07/06/19
The swfa mil quad is the best hunting/ long range reticle i have used. Simple, fast, and precise. Tough to beat it.
Posted By: TomM1 Re: Scope Reticles...WTF? - 07/06/19
The sightron HHR (hunter holdover reticle) is my favorite. Zero at 200 and you have fine hashes for 300, 400 and duplex stump for 500.

I also like the Burris ballistic plex but it is more aligned for 100 yard zero in the standard calibers I use.
Posted By: Jordan Smith Re: Scope Reticles...WTF? - 07/07/19
The Vortex EBR-7C is my favourite precision rifle reticle, and the G2H is my favourite for general hunting. The MQ is also an awesome general hunting reticle.
Posted By: plainsman456 Re: Scope Reticles...WTF? - 07/07/19
Most long range types seem to be very busy in that dept.
Horus is for seal team 6 wanna bees. It’s for guys who play sniper ninja that shoot 20 pound chassis rig guns off fake barricades.
Don’t buy one then
Posted By: Formidilosus Re: Scope Reticles...WTF? - 07/07/19
Originally Posted by Beaver10
I know, I know....Reticles are subjective and used to expedite targeting at various ranges. But, some reticles seem like a mathematical equation requiring a solution be solved before squeezing a trigger.

Best example is a Horus Reticle. Is a shooter working against the clock on target acquisition then shot placement really benefiting himself when a reticle is plastered with teeny-tinny dots and hash marks arranged in a pyramid that likely covers a small piece of steel he needs to hit at 800, 900 or 1000 plus yards?

Wouldn’t a simple Mils reticle with reduced windshield clutter be easier to work with? I suspect this might be the case since I’ve seen several Horus reticled scopes come up for sale “as-new” and not much buying interest.

For dialers who hunt the same reticle they use for practice and play....What’s your favorite reticle?

Mine is a Mil-Quad or Mil-Dot reticle.

😎




The Horus works very well for what it’s intended to do- multiple targets, at multiple different ranges, under time constraints, without dialing, and more accurate 2nd and 3rd shot corrections. Better than 75% of the long range scopes I use have an H59 it Tremor 3 reticle. I don’t even notice the grid unless I need it.

It’s not a animal hunting reticle, it’s a people hunting one, and I prefer it for long range field competitions as well. For hunting the Mil-Quad is my preference.
Posted By: Judman Re: Scope Reticles...WTF? - 07/07/19
I'm pretty partial to a duplex reticle .
Posted By: AKPENDUDE Re: Scope Reticles...WTF? - 07/07/19
I’m enjoying the forceplex in my nightforce shv. The mil dot reticle from SWFA is also nice.
Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors
Don’t buy one then

Life really is just that simple. I like a simple reticle myself so thats what I buy. Aint no shortage of scopes or reticles.
Posted By: JCMCUBIC Re: Scope Reticles...WTF? - 07/07/19
Form explained it.

I used the Leupold LRD and like it for hunting deer. It works in a fixed power scope (or FFP) but coyotes or fox (or crows, etc) are noticeably tougher for me to bracket on in between ranges.

The more I use the G2H reticle that Jordan mentioned, the more I like it. Very well designed reticle. If I could make a change, I'd bring the bottom outer plex up to 6 mil like the top and both sides so it would be "square" all the way around as I'll dial if possible. I do notice the uneven outer plex but it's nothing that can't be lived with.

The Milquad and Moaquad reticles are good to. My preference would be a lower post like the upper 3 but again, that's just a preference.

Last season I used a plain jane mildot reticle the majority of the season and I've been shooting it a bit the last several months. It's still a GREAT reticle for all around hunting. 4 bold posts spaced evenly, marked windage that is bold enough and tight enough to bracket with at in between ranges. Simple and efficient.
Posted By: 01Foreman400 Re: Scope Reticles...WTF? - 07/07/19
I can see the need or want for the busy reticles but for the shooting and hunting I do a basic plex or 4a works just fine for me. To each his own though.
Posted By: dogzapper Re: Scope Reticles...WTF? - 07/07/19


I'm just a simple killer, so the Leupold Heavy Duplex works for me. And it has for many, many years.

The first time I did an article on a rifle that was issued to me with a Nightforce (or whatever) scope and the Horus reticle, I just about wanted to puke. I suppose it's a mathematician's dream but, as you say, WTF?

Blessings,

Steve
Posted By: 1Akshooter Re: Scope Reticles...WTF? - 07/07/19
Although I am in a slow process of learning the mil system and now have two 1st focal plain mil/mil scopes, I have never twisted a turret when hunting. Maybe it is because my mediocre Alaskan hunting career has not required it and most shots in Alaska are well under two hundred yards. Most of my game shots have been taken with a Leupold "set n forget" scope with a Duplex reticle and a very few shots on moose and caribou were a bit over four hundred yards.

I started with and old Weaver 4 power with a post reticle and still have the scope. I think my first moose was around three hundred yards with that scope and my old Springfield 03A3 in 30-06 Govt. That and the 220 grain Silvertips worked just fine on the lung shot, the nose shot that followed the lung shot and subsequent misses, finally I hit the poor beast in the neck and ended his suffering. A true tale of a 15 year old boy who was alone and trying to shoot a moose and manage a huge adrenalin dump.

For hunting up here in Alaska the Leupold Firedot #4 reticle is fine with me. I am pretty confident with "hold over" out to 400 yards on a stationary broad side moose or caribou. I do believe a reticle like the mil reticle in the 3-9x42 SWFA HD scope on my 6.5 Creed would be a good all around choice for a riflemen that could use it to it's potential. I'm not that guy yet, but I am slowly learning.
Posted By: Beaver10 Re: Scope Reticles...WTF? - 07/07/19
Originally Posted by dogzapper


I'm just a simple killer, so the Leupold Heavy Duplex works for me. And it has for many, many years.

The first time I did an article on a rifle that was issued to me with a Nightforce (or whatever) scope and the Horus reticle, I just about wanted to puke. I suppose it's a mathematician's dream but, as you say, WTF?

Blessings,

Steve



DZ,
Nice to see you posting....Hope you’re well. 😎

With that said, I admit this thread was “click bait” for the likes of Jordan, Formidilosus and a couple others who I know would have no issues using a Horus Reticle and likely benefiting from its windshield in both competition or hunting men as Form mentioned.

For me, it’s interesting to read what a few can do with equipment that baffles the heck out of me.
Posted By: lvmiker Re: Scope Reticles...WTF? - 07/07/19
I just don't understand the "math" aspect of using a mil type reticle and a scope w reliable dialing and matching turrets. About 6 months ago I put a SS 3-9 w/ MQ reticle on my Tikka T3 308 after reading Form's excellent tutorial on here. A fun day w/ a buddy who knew the system as a spotter and I had enough dope to work w/ reticle and the turrets. Last week I was routinely hitting 6" plates at 300-500 yards, dial 1 and shoot,rtz and use the reticle to hold for the next hit. Actually knowing that your POA and POI will coincide is a lot of fun and so easy even a caveman can do it.

For you snap shooters, I carry my rifle w/ the scope set on 6x w/ an 100 yard zero. I practice at 100 from slung position w/ a shot timer. < 6 secs to hit a 6" plate 80% of the time most days and I will get better.

Everyone should use what they like but the sniper remarks show lack of knowledge and a juvenile attitude.


mike r
Posted By: Wrongside Re: Scope Reticles...WTF? - 07/07/19
I'm another who's a fan of the SWFA MQ, and really like G2H in the LRHS, for 'dual purpose' use. For me, the G2H is a great combination of adequate reference for holds/measuring corrections, while still being very quick & 'pointable'. A Mildot suits me just fine in a pinch too.

I prefer a bit less cluttered, tree style reticle, so I'm not a big fan of the Horus rets. However, even me, just being an occasional competitor- I've seen stages and scenarios where the strengths of the design were obvious against my G3 equipped DMRII Pro. Upsides and downsides to every reticle. They all have their place.
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