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We just got this list of discontinued product from Leupold, thought you'd appreciate a heads up

Part No. Description
VX-6HD Scopes
171553 VX-6HD 1-6x24 (30mm) CDS-ZL2 Metric Illum. FireDot 4 Fine
171557 VX-6HD 2-12x42 (30mm) CDS-ZL2 Illum. TMOA
171566 VX-6HD 3-18x44 (30mm) CDS-ZL2 Side Focus Illum. Boone & Crockett
171579 VX-6HD 4-24x52 (34mm) CDS-ZL2 Side Focus Illum. TMOA
171580 VX-6HD 4-24x52 (34mm) CDS-ZL2 Side Focus Illum. Impact-23 MOA

VX-5HD Scopes
171384 VX-5HD 1-5x24 (30mm) Duplex

VX-3i Scopes
170677 VX-3i 1.5-5x20 (1 inch) Metric German 4
170681 VX-3i 3.5-10x40 (1 inch) Boone & Crockett
170682 VX-3i 3.5-10x40 (1 inch) CDS Wind-Plex
170683 VX-3i 3.5-10x40 (1 inch) CDS Duplex
171151 VX-3i 3.5-10x56 (30mm) Illum. Duplex
170692 VX-3i 4.5-14x40 (1 inch) CDS Wind-Plex
170693 VX-3i 4.5-14x40 (1 inch) CDS Duplex
170699 VX-3i 4.5-14x40 (30mm) Side Focus Duplex
170702 VX-3i 4.5-14x40 (30mm) Side Focus CDS Wind-Plex
170703 VX-3i 4.5-14x40 (30mm) Side Focus CDS Duplex
171916 VX-3i 4.5-14x40 (30mm) Side Focus Fast Focus B&C
170708 VX-3i 4.5-14x50 (1 inch) CDS Duplex
170712 VX-3i 4.5-14x50 (30mm) Side Focus CDS Wind-Plex
170713 VX-3i 4.5-14x50 (30mm) Side Focus CDS Duplex
170715 VX-3i 6.5-20x50 (30mm) Side Focus CDS Target Varmint Hunter
171915 VX-3i 4.5-14x40 (30mm) Side Focus CDS Fast Focus Duplex

VX-3i LRP Scopes
172335 VX-3i LRP 4.5-14x50 (30mm) Side Focus TMOA
172336 VX-3i LRP 4.5-14x50 (30mm) Side Focus Impact-32 MOA
172337 VX-3i LRP 4.5-14x50 (30mm) Side Focus TMR
172338 VX-3i LRP 4.5-14x50 (30mm) Side Focus FFP TMR
172339 VX-3i LRP 4.5-14x50 (30mm) Side Focus FFP CCH
174508 VX-3i LRP 4.5-14x50 (30mm) Side Focus FFP Impact-60 MOA

VX-Freedom Scopes
175076 VX-Freedom AR 3-9x40 (1 inch) Mil TMR

Rifleman Scopes
170793 Rifleman 4-12x40 (1 inch) RBR

VX-R Scopes
111230 VX•R 1.25-4x20 (30mm) Illum. FireDot Duplex
110683 VX•R 1.25-4x20 (30mm) Metric Illum. FireDot 4
113165 VX•R HOG 1.25-4x20 (30mm) Illum. FireDot Pig-Plex
113769 VX•R Patrol 1.25-4x20 (30mm) Illum. FireDot SPR
119675 VX•R 1.5-5x33 Scout (30mm) Illum. FireDot Duplex
110684 VX•R 2-7x33 (30mm) Illum. FireDot Duplex
110685 VX•R 2-7x33 (30mm) Metric Illum. FireDot 4
110686 VX•R 3-9x40 (30mm) Illum. FireDot Duplex
110687 VX•R 3-9x40 (30mm) Metric Illum. FireDot 4
111236 VX•R 3-9x40 (30mm) Illum. Ballistic FireDot
120618 VX•R 3-9x40 (30mm) CDS Illum. FireDot Wind-Plex
113771 VX•R Patrol 3-9x40 (30mm) Illum. FireDot TMR
110688 VX•R 3-9x50 (30mm) Illum. FireDot Duplex
110689 VX•R 3-9x50 (30mm) Metric Illum. FireDot 4
111238 VX•R 4-12x40 (30mm) CDS Illum. FireDot Duplex
111239 VX•R 4-12x40 (30mm) Metric Illum. FireDot 4
111240 VX•R 4-12x40 (30mm) Illum. Ballistic FireDot
120620 VX•R 4-12x40 (30mm) CDS Illum. FireDot Wind-Plex
111241 VX•R 4-12x50 (30mm) Illum. FireDot Duplex
111242 VX•R 4-12x50 (30mm) Metric Illum. FireDot 4

CQ Scopes
119687 DeltaPoint Pro Reflex Sight 7.5 MOA Inscribed Delta
177155 DeltaPoint Pro Reflex Sight 7.5 MOA Inscribed Delta with DP Pro AR Mount

CQ Accessories
170907 DeltaPoint Pro Dovetail Mount, Kimber Matte

Fixed Power Scopes
58550 FX-II 4x33 (1 inch) Wide Duplex
58830 FX-II 6x36 (1 inch) Wide Duplex

Leupold Thermal Optics
173882 LTO Quest HD Thermal Viewer

BX-5 Santiam Binoculars
172458 BX-5 Santiam HD 15x56mm Sitka Sub Alpine
172459 BX-5 Santiam HD 15x56mm Sitka Open Country
174482 BX-5 Santiam HD 8x42mm Sub Alpine
175855 BX-5 Santiam HD 10x50mm Sub Alpine
175857 BX-5 Santiam HD 12x50mm Sub Alpine

BX-4 Pro Guide Binoculars
172659 BX-4 Pro Guide HD 8x32mm Roof Sitka Subalpine
172661 BX-4 Pro Guide HD 10x32mm Roof Sitka Subalpine
172663 BX-4 Pro Guide HD 8x42mm Roof Kryptek Typhon Black
172665 BX-4 Pro Guide HD 8x42mm Roof Sitka Subalpine
172671 BX-4 Pro Guide HD 10x50mm Roof Kryptek Typhon Black
172672 BX-4 Pro Guide HD 10x50mm Roof Sitka Open Country
172676 BX-4 Pro Guide HD 12x50mm Roof Kryptek Typhon Black
172677 BX-4 Pro Guide HD 12x50mm Roof Sitka Open Country

BX-2 Acadia Binoculars
172700 BX-2 Acadia 10x42mm Roof Shadow Gray

BX-1 McKenzie Binoculars
173789 BX-1 McKenzie 10x50mm Shadow Gray

BX-1 Yosemite Binoculars
172703 BX-1 Yosemite 6x30mm Porro Shadow Gray
172705 BX-1 Yosemite 8x30mm Porro Shadow Gray
172707 BX-1 Yosemite 10x30mm Porro Shadow Gray

BX-1 Rogue Binoculars
65755 BX-1 Rogue 8x42mm Porro Mossy Oak Break-up
65760 BX-1 Rogue 10x50mm Porro Mossy Oak Break-up

SX-1 Ventana Spotting Scope
170755 SX-1 Ventana 2 15-45x60mm Gray/Black
170756 SX-1 Ventana 2 15-45x60mm Kit Gray/Black
170757 SX-1 Ventana 2 15-45x60mm Angled Gray/Black
170758 SX-1 Ventana 2 15-45x60mm Angled Kit Gray/Black
170759 SX-1 Ventana 2 20-60x80mm Gray/Black
170760 SX-1 Ventana 2 20-60x80mm Kit Gray/Black
170761 SX-1 Ventana 2 20-60x80mm Angled Gray/Black
170762 SX-1 Ventana 2 20-60x80mm Angled Kit Gray/Black

GX Rangefinders
172460 GX-1i3 Digital Golf Rangefinder Black
174777 GX-4i3 Digital Golf Rangefinder Chrome/Black
Do you know what their new line (s) will be called?
I hope they are replacing the 6x36 Wide Duplex with a functional reticle!
Do you know if there will be discounts/rebates on the discontinued scopes?
Originally Posted by joelkdouglas
I hope they are replacing the 6x36 Wide Duplex with a functional reticle!


That was my first thought, too.
And get rid of that ridiculous wind-plex
Originally Posted by Labman95
Do you know if there will be discounts/rebates on the discontinued scopes?

This.
That is a lot of products to be replaced. Do we know when and with what these will be replaced?
Whao! Talk about thinning the herd.
New products 2020

"Intro Month" Part No. Description

Jan 179292 VX-6HD 4-24x52 (34mm) CDS-ZL3 Side Focus Illum. TMOA
Jan 179293 VX-6HD 4-24x52 (34mm) CDS-ZL3 Side Focus Illum. Impact-23 MOA
Jan 179294 VX-6HD 4-24x52 (34mm) CDS-ZL3 Side Focus Illum. FireDot Duplex



Jan 178027 VX-5HD 3-15x44 (30mm) CDS-ZL2 Side Focus Mil TMR
Jan 178166 VX-5HD 4-20x52 (34mm) CDS-ZL2 Side Illum. FireDot Duplex



Jan 177823 VX-3i 3.5-10x40 (1 inch) CDS-ZL Duplex
Jan 177861 VX-3i 4.5-14x40 (1 inch) CDS-ZL Duplex
Jan 177820 VX-3i 4.5-14x40 (30mm) Side Focus CDS-ZL Wind-Plex
Jan 177822 VX-3i 4.5-14x50 (30mm) Side Focus CDS-ZL Duplex



Mar 179069 VX-3i LRP 8.5-25x50 (30mm) Side Focus FFP CCH



Nov 2019 178253 VX-Freedom 4-12x40 (1 inch) Duplex
Apr 178255 VX-Freedom 4-12x50 (1 inch) Duplex

Mar 177226 VX-Freedom AR 1.5-4X20 (30mm) 223 Mil Illum. FireDot MIL-Ring
Nov 2019 178252 VX-Freedom AR 3-9X40 (1 inch) 223 Mil TMR
Apr 178254 VX-Freedom AR 4-12x40 (1 inch) 223 Mil TMR
Apr 177230 VX-Freedom AR 4-12x40 (30mm) 223 Side Focus Mil TMR
Feb 177231 VX-Freedom AR 6-18X40 (30mm) 223 Mil Side Focus TMR

Mar 177225 VX-Freedom 1.5-4X20 (30mm) Illum. FireDot MOA-Ring
Nov 2019 177227 VX-Freedom 3-9X40 (30mm) Illum. FireDot Tri-MOA
Mar 177228 VX-Freedom 3-9X50 (30mm) Illum. FireDot Twilight Hunter
Mar 177229 VX-Freedom 4-12X50 (30mm) CDS Illum. FireDot Duplex



Jan 176204 Freedom - RDS 1x34 (34mm) Red Dot 1.0 MOA Dot



Feb 175840 DeltaPoint Pro Reflex Sight 2.5 MOA Dot Dark Earth



Mar 177437 DeltaPoint Pro Dovetail Mount, Kimber 1911 Matte



Mar 178763 RX-FullDraw 4 with DNA Green OLED



Apr 178764 GX-6c Digital Golf Rangefinder Chrome/Black
Originally Posted by OSU_Sig
Originally Posted by Labman95
Do you know if there will be discounts/rebates on the discontinued scopes?

This.

No rebates but stuff is being sold discounted
Originally Posted by 257heaven
Originally Posted by joelkdouglas
I hope they are replacing the 6x36 Wide Duplex with a functional reticle!


That was my first thought, too.


And my other thought—they are probably getting rid of the 6x36, arguably their best scope (unless you dial, then they are terrible). I don’t see it on the new products list.

I wonder if the B&C reticle is going to be available in the custom shop--sounds like the B&C is mostly gone.
Thanks Doug.
Whats' going on with Leupold? Went to the custom shop to send in a scope for cds dial and they say they're "restructuring" the custom shop. Wondering if they will do ANY retro fitting on Vari XII, VXIII or VX3 scopes.
Maybe the fixed the internals....nah
That’s a hell of a lot of products
They are getting rid of the older, faulty internals. That’s it.
One has to wonder if they are reacting to the demand of shooters for some form of ballistic reticles.
Going to the ZL style CDS will be a step up as the Vx5 and 6 scopes are very good.
Why can’t they offer 2 or 2.5-10 in their vx3i like other companies figured out how to. With out going Up to their vx5 and up. At 3.5 they are almost at 4 .. they might as well make it 3.5-12.
Why all the fat tubes? 30mm and 34mm clubs is the last thing I want on my nice light rifles. I imagine they're some shooters' cup of tea, and they should get what they want.
I see a whole lot of scopes being discontinued compared to the number of new models being introduced.

And then the word on the custom shop being 'restructured'.

Looks to me like Leupold as a whole is being 'restructured'. And that is generally not a good sign. I hope I'm wrong, but this looks a tad ominous.
Originally Posted by DELGUE
I see a whole lot of scopes being discontinued compared to the number of new models being introduced.

And then the word on the custom shop being 'restructured'.

Looks to me like Leupold as a whole is being 'restructured'. And that is generally not a good sign. I hope I'm wrong, but this looks a tad ominous.


I was thinking the same exact thing.

First Weaver and then Nikon, hoping Leupold isnt next....
Originally Posted by luv2safari
Why all the fat tubes? 30mm and 34mm clubs is the last thing I want on my nice light rifles. I imagine they're some shooters' cup of tea, and they should get what they want.


Because they are heeding the market. Lots of 'long range hunters' out there. Larger tubes generally mean more elevation/windage adjustment, so the wanna-bes can dial a distant target that they might not otherwise be able to dial with the smaller tube. That said, still doesn't mean they hit what they're aiming at ! shocked
Originally Posted by WiFowler
..Because they are heeding the market. Lots of 'long range hunters' out there. Larger tubes generally mean more elevation/windage adjustment, so the wanna-bes can dial a distant target that they might not otherwise be able to dial with the smaller tube. That said, still doesn't mean they hit what they're aiming at ! shocked


Fat tubes are selling and there are more shooters than hunters who want light rigs.
Just a guess, but I'll bet they think they'll make more money this way.🙄

Gotta go with the market or fail. Based on the dustup we had here a while back, I wouldn't bet much on them "fixing" anything, since they seem to believe nothing's wrong.
Originally Posted by luv2safari
Why all the fat tubes? 30mm and 34mm clubs is the last thing I want on my nice light rifles. I imagine they're some shooters' cup of tea, and they should get what they want.


One benefit of a light rifle is it allows you to go with a heavier optic without becoming burdensome. The 16oz VX-5 on my Fieldcraft is a good fit, better than a slightly heavier, but much bulkier 1" scope I tried at first. Tall turrets and side knobs annoy me on a hunting rifle because they make the package larger, but a 30mm tube doesn't have to be bulky, and may be stronger. The FC weighs 6lbs 7oz IIRC, just about perfect for me.
Originally Posted by DELGUE
I see a whole lot of scopes being discontinued compared to the number of new models being introduced.

And then the word on the custom shop being 'restructured'.

Looks to me like Leupold as a whole is being 'restructured'. And that is generally not a good sign. I hope I'm wrong, but this looks a tad ominous.


It's a crowded optics market in general. The global economy has slowed a bit with the big exception of USA. I've been thinking for the last year that we might start seeing a shake-out of optics manufacturers. Not just scopes but binos and spotters too. For 15-20 years Leupold dominated the North American rifle scope market, and there is a good chance they have seen their rifle scope market share decrease with all the new scopes out there.

Long range shooting may be big in the rifle loony world that buy multiple rifles and multiple scopes costing more than the rifle. A fair share of shooters may have one expensive scope and a lot of less expensive scopes. But dialing scopes with good glass start at a $700-$800 street price and quickly go up from there, and their's just not going to be a lot of them sold.

I bet Leupold sells more VX Freedoms than all their other rifle scopes combined.
Originally Posted by Pappy348


One benefit of a light rifle is it allows you to go with a heavier optic without becoming burdensome. The 16oz VX-5 on my Fieldcraft is a good fit, better than a slightly heavier, but much bulkier 1" scope I tried at first. Tall turrets and side knobs annoy me on a hunting rifle because they make the package larger, but a 30mm tube doesn't have to be bulky, and may be stronger. The FC weighs 6lbs 7oz IIRC, just about perfect for me.



For me, it not just about the weight but the balance of the rifle. A 30mm tube is usually accompanied by a 42mm or larger objective lens, weighs more, and often necessitates higher rings. This moves the weight away from the centerline of the rifle, making it more top heavy, and creates more side to side imbalance. When carrying a rifle all day hunting--in my hand, or slung with a conventional sling, or a Safari Sling like I do--while maneuvering through thickish timber or climbing/descending steep hills, balance counts for me.

When adding a 1/2 lb or more extra weight (for most dialing scopes) and moving it further away from the centerline of a 5 1/2 lb rifle makes a big difference proportionately. In your case the VX-5 weighs less than 20+ oz most dialing scopes do, but my buddy's VX-5 2-10 CDS weighed a bit over 18 oz, which I think is more than Leupold advertised for that scope.

Heavier scopes with larger tubes and objective lens mounted further away from the center line of lighter rifles have a bigger effect on side to side balance.
Originally Posted by alpinecrick
Originally Posted by DELGUE
I see a whole lot of scopes being discontinued compared to the number of new models being introduced.

And then the word on the custom shop being 'restructured'.

Looks to me like Leupold as a whole is being 'restructured'. And that is generally not a good sign. I hope I'm wrong, but this looks a tad ominous.


It's a crowded optics market in general. The global economy has slowed a bit with the big exception of USA. I've been thinking for the last year that we might start seeing a shake-out of optics manufacturers. Not just scopes but binos and spotters too. For 15-20 years Leupold dominated the North American rifle scope market, and there is a good chance they have seen their rifle scope market share decrease with all the new scopes out there.

Long range shooting may be big in the rifle loony world that buy multiple rifles and multiple scopes costing more than the rifle. A fair share of shooters may have one expensive scope and a lot of less expensive scopes. But dialing scopes with good glass start at a $700-$800 street price and quickly go up from there, and their's just not going to be a lot of them sold.

I bet Leupold sells more VX Freedoms than all their other rifle scopes combined.



Your last sentence is very telling. And probably true.
It definitely looks like Leupold is trying to cut down on the different configurations, as they should. WIth brick and mortar stores steadily becoming less important, having a lot of SKUs is not that critical any more.

They are effectively consolidating technologies, so that their excellent zerolock turret propagates through the product line.

VX-R is being consolidated with VX-Freedom, which is another good thing.

Altogether, mostly good changes, I think,

ILya
Originally Posted by koshkin
It definitely looks like Leupold is trying to cut down on the different configurations, as they should. WIth brick and mortar stores steadily becoming less important, having a lot of SKUs is not that critical any more.

They are effectively consolidating technologies, so that their excellent zerolock turret propagates through the product line.

VX-R is being consolidated with VX-Freedom, which is another good thing.

Altogether, mostly good changes, I think,

ILya

Wouldn't be changing their erector springs, and scope internals would they?....
The beginning of the end of Leupold as we know it. Doug, do you know how long the warranty will be honored on those listed scopes?

g
Originally Posted by GeoW
The beginning of the end of Leupold as we know it. Doug, do you know how long the warranty will be honored on those listed scopes?

g


They are steadily losing market share and something has to be done... But they are far from going out of business...
Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors
They are getting rid of the older, faulty internals. That’s it.


Didn’t know the 4x had faults
Originally Posted by WiFowler
Originally Posted by luv2safari
Why all the fat tubes? 30mm and 34mm clubs is the last thing I want on my nice light rifles. I imagine they're some shooters' cup of tea, and they should get what they want.


Because they are heeding the market. Lots of 'long range hunters' out there. Larger tubes generally mean more elevation/windage adjustment, so the wanna-bes can dial a distant target that they might not otherwise be able to dial with the smaller tube. That said, still doesn't mean they hit what they're aiming at ! shocked


It's a horrible fad. Both twisting and tacticool are gayer than a 270 ever was on its worst day. Throw in the word creemooooor and its enough to make a guy vomit.

Sorry. Rant over.

fwiw, for the 5% of you who can actually walk the talk, this obviously doesnt apply, but you already knew that. For the rest... gay.
Originally Posted by Pappy348
Just a guess, but I'll bet they think they'll make more money this way.🙄

Gotta go with the market or fail. .


Yeah. Probably right.
Originally Posted by atse
Originally Posted by koshkin
It definitely looks like Leupold is trying to cut down on the different configurations, as they should. WIth brick and mortar stores steadily becoming less important, having a lot of SKUs is not that critical any more.

They are effectively consolidating technologies, so that their excellent zerolock turret propagates through the product line.

VX-R is being consolidated with VX-Freedom, which is another good thing.

Altogether, mostly good changes, I think,

ILya

Wouldn't be changing their erector springs, and scope internals would they?....


On older designs, probably not.

Their newer designs seem to do alright.

ILya
Originally Posted by alpinecrick
Originally Posted by Pappy348


One benefit of a light rifle is it allows you to go with a heavier optic without becoming burdensome. The 16oz VX-5 on my Fieldcraft is a good fit, better than a slightly heavier, but much bulkier 1" scope I tried at first. Tall turrets and side knobs annoy me on a hunting rifle because they make the package larger, but a 30mm tube doesn't have to be bulky, and may be stronger. The FC weighs 6lbs 7oz IIRC, just about perfect for me.



For me, it not just about the weight but the balance of the rifle. A 30mm tube is usually accompanied by a 42mm or larger objective lens, weighs more, and often necessitates higher rings. This moves the weight away from the centerline of the rifle, making it more top heavy, and creates more side to side imbalance. When carrying a rifle all day hunting--in my hand, or slung with a conventional sling, or a Safari Sling like I do--while maneuvering through thickish timber or climbing/descending steep hills, balance counts for me.

When adding a 1/2 lb or more extra weight (for most dialing scopes) and moving it further away from the centerline of a 5 1/2 lb rifle makes a big difference proportionately. In your case the VX-5 weighs less than 20+ oz most dialing scopes do, but my buddy's VX-5 2-10 CDS weighed a bit over 18 oz, which I think is more than Leupold advertised for that scope.

Heavier scopes with larger tubes and objective lens mounted further away from the center line of lighter rifles have a bigger effect on side to side balance.


I'm very satisfied with the balance and weight of my FC rig. The 2-10 sits in low Talleys. Pretty much the perfect rig for me, all around. An Alpine with another one pound scope, this one a 1", is 11 or 12oz heavier, but also totes well. No tall turrets for me on a rifle I'm carrying around the woods; groundhog fields, maybe. The shots that would make them useful are just never offered on my turf.

I just picked up a pair of 3-9 FF IIs on sale. They're the right size and weight, and have a dead-nuts reputation for staying pointed where you set them. No need to spend or carry more for me, unless my circumstances change.

Yes, tall turrets make for a bigger target to get knocked around.

For the money the FFII"s are a nice scope, and I like the ballistic reticle on my FFII's better than the LRD, but not as much as the B&C. Eye box/eye relief are not as friendly as my Leupolds on my hunting rifles, and the Burris glass is maybe as bright as my VX-1"s.
Originally Posted by GeoW
The beginning of the end of Leupold as we know it. Doug, do you know how long the warranty will be honored on those listed scopes?

g

No reason for the warranty to change just because they were discontinued
Originally Posted by hanco
That’s a hell of a lot of products


Yeah, some good scopes no longer in production.
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