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Posted By: ingwe Stunt Pig shooting... - 05/28/21
I had to try something....usually shoot pigs with a .223 or .223AI but I got a .17 Rem...and an itch....


So I shot a couple small pigs first..Impressive performance!

Then I went on to a couple bigger ones...

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And finished the night with a tailgate tableau...

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Used a 25 Gr Hornday HP and 25 gr of CFE223, brain shots. Nobody twitched.
Posted By: kaywoodie Re: Stunt Pig shooting... - 05/28/21
Well done, Poobs!!!
Posted By: ingwe Re: Stunt Pig shooting... - 05/28/21
Thanks Bob!
Posted By: dye7barrel Re: Stunt Pig shooting... - 05/28/21
Good shooting
Good shooting sir! Whereabouts in TX were you hunting this time ?
Posted By: TheKid Re: Stunt Pig shooting... - 05/28/21
Ha! I’ll have your 17 caliber merit badge sent over right away. smile
Posted By: rockinbbar Re: Stunt Pig shooting... - 05/28/21
Warm those rascals up! smile
Posted By: ingwe Re: Stunt Pig shooting... - 05/28/21
Originally Posted by chlinstructor
Good shooting sir! Whereabouts in TX were you hunting this time ?



In the area around Breckenridge..north Texas.
Posted By: JPro Re: Stunt Pig shooting... - 05/28/21
But you need at least a .35cal to kill pigs, c'mon.......
Posted By: rockinbbar Re: Stunt Pig shooting... - 05/28/21
Originally Posted by ingwe
Originally Posted by chlinstructor
Good shooting sir! Whereabouts in TX were you hunting this time ?



In the area around Breckenridge..north Texas.


I made a trip up that way a couple days ago. It was wet and had water standing the whole way, from S.Texas to Dallas... All the rivers I crossed were swollen and muddy! Trinty, Brazos, and Guadalupe as well as the San Antonio.

That Lonesome Dove water moccasin scene came to mind! laugh
Posted By: ingwe Re: Stunt Pig shooting... - 05/28/21
Originally Posted by JPro
But you need at least a .35cal to kill pigs, c'mon.......


Especially in Texas where all the animals wear Kevlar.

You need a Minimum of .300WSM for their little whitetails, and preferably a 105mm field gun for Nilgai..
Posted By: kaywoodie Re: Stunt Pig shooting... - 05/28/21
Originally Posted by ingwe
Originally Posted by JPro
But you need at least a .35cal to kill pigs, c'mon.......


Especially in Texas where all the animals wear Kevlar.

You need a Minimum of .300WSM for their little whitetails, and preferably a 105mm field gun for Nilgai..


🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Yup
Posted By: JPro Re: Stunt Pig shooting... - 05/28/21
Shoulder shields = AR500

Everybody knows that. LOL

I will say that punching a hole through the shield really isn't that hard, but getting a hole to leak through the shield can be spotty, even with .30cal stuff. A neck/head shot is great if possible, and an armpit/heart shot is fine on a sow you plan to eat. She'll likely bleed just like a whitetail, even with a bow hit. Will likely grill some more wild hog sausage this holiday weekend. Pineapple and pepperjack ain't playing around.
Posted By: whitearrow Re: Stunt Pig shooting... - 05/28/21
Originally Posted by JPro
Shoulder shields = AR500

Everybody knows that. LOL

I will say that punching a hole through the shield really isn't that hard, but getting a hole to leak through the shield can be spotty, even with .30cal stuff. A neck/head shot is great if possible, and an armpit/heart shot is fine on a sow you plan to eat. She'll likely bleed just like a whitetail, even with a bow hit. Will likely grill some more wild hog sausage this holiday weekend. Pineapple and pepperjack ain't playing around.

jpro thats how i get my whitetail smoked sausages too bud. man, you can't beat pepperjack cheese and pineapple.........
Big Ed
Posted By: whitearrow Re: Stunt Pig shooting... - 05/28/21
Originally Posted by ingwe
I had to try something....usually shoot pigs with a .223 or .223AI but I got a .17 Rem...and an itch....


So I shot a couple small pigs first..Impressive performance!

Then I went on to a couple bigger ones...

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]
[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]


And finished the night with a tailgate tableau...

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]


Used a 25 Gr Hornday HP and 25 gr of CFE223, brain shots. Nobody twitched.


ingwe how did the lil horn 25hp perform? any exits? i shoot em outta my 17 hornet and they do a number on crows. but, not a hawg...........yet.
Big Ed
Posted By: ingwe Re: Stunt Pig shooting... - 05/28/21
Originally Posted by whitearrow
Originally Posted by ingwe
I had to try something....usually shoot pigs with a .223 or .223AI but I got a .17 Rem...and an itch....


So I shot a couple small pigs first..Impressive performance!

Then I went on to a couple bigger ones...

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]
[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]


And finished the night with a tailgate tableau...

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]


Used a 25 Gr Hornday HP and 25 gr of CFE223, brain shots. Nobody twitched.


ingwe how did the lil horn 25hp perform? any exits? i shoot em outta my 17 hornet and they do a number on crows. but, not a hawg...........yet.
Big Ed



No...no exits even on the smaller ( 70 pound) pigs.

My assumption- and I think it proved correct- is that the little slug would enter and immediately blow up, transmitting all energy into the brain.
All the hogs I shot with it stiffened up, fell over and never twitched.

A .223 in the same place puts them down for sure, but it completely penetrates and you get a funky chicken act for a couple minutes.The .17 seemed to electrocute them. I chose the 25 HP because it is ever so slightly 'harder' than the Vmax.
Ingwe,
I’m just asking this out of curiosity. One of your older post you said when hunting around the world you used a 7x57, 300 h&h, and a 375 h&h . Then one of your recent post you said you basically use 223 mostly now. What made you go to the 223 over something in the 24-28 caliber range?
If you were to hunt elk again would you take the .223 or would you step up to something a little bigger?
How is your 223 set up?
Posted By: hanco Re: Stunt Pig shooting... - 05/28/21
I’ve killed lots of pigs with a bow, don’t take much to kill them. They squeal when an arrow hits, nothing like it.

Good work, only a billion more to go.
Posted By: Dirtfarmer Re: Stunt Pig shooting... - 05/28/21
Originally Posted by ingwe
Originally Posted by JPro
But you need at least a .35cal to kill pigs, c'mon.......


Especially in Texas where all the animals wear Kevlar.

You need a Minimum of .300WSM for their little whitetails, and preferably a 105mm field gun for Nilgai..

For sure nilgai, armored up like an Abrams tank. Or so, some seem to think.

I’ve killed hogs with the .17 HMR, but use FMJ’s. More effective than some would think.

Head shots, ammo type probably doesn’t matter.

DF
Posted By: ingwe Re: Stunt Pig shooting... - 05/28/21
Originally Posted by ridgerunner_ky
Ingwe,
I’m just asking this out of curiosity. One of your older post you said when hunting around the world you used a 7x57, 300 h&h, and a 375 h&h . Then one of your recent post you said you basically use 223 mostly now. What made you go to the 223 over something in the 24-28 caliber range?
If you were to hunt elk again would you take the .223 or would you step up to something a little bigger?
How is your 223 set up?


Good questions all. When I quit hunting the world I no longer needed the magnums, because I rarely hunt anything larger than deer or hogs. I found a properly loaded 223 kills them as well as anything Ive ever used.Also enough recoil over a few decades screwed up my shoulder big time so I shy away from hard kickers now.

My one and only rifle over .224 is the .275 Rigby ( aka 7x57) which comes out of mothballs whenever Im hunting something expensive or bigger than deer. Were I to hunt elk again, thats what I'd use...cause I killed a few with a 7x57 back in the day and it is entirely adequate.

And FWIW Ive got three 223s and they are as follows:

Rem 700 3x9 Hawke scope with lighted red reticle

Rem 700 stainless 223AI with Burris 3x9, also lighted reticle

Tikka Superlight 1 in 8 twist Minox 3x9 for daytime use.


The Rem 700...

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The 700 in .223AI...

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The Tikka....

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Also FWIW I like the .222 for hogs and varmints, and the .17 Rem is excellent on hogs and fur friendly on varmints. Those are the two I use most.
Posted By: DigitalDan Re: Stunt Pig shooting... - 05/28/21
I got a .17 I might try someday.

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Need to use up my .22 CB shorts first.
Posted By: Dirtfarmer Re: Stunt Pig shooting... - 05/28/21
DD,

What the heck is that?

DF
Posted By: DigitalDan Re: Stunt Pig shooting... - 05/28/21
That would be a Zimmerstutzen made in Germany back when men were steel and ships were wood. Another name used often is "parlor rifle". Shoots a lead BB with a RF primer charge in a short case. Looks a fair bit like .22 BB caps, only smaller. Made by Paul Neubrand in Munderkingen, Germany. Target posted was shot at 50' offhand by a wayward lad from Wyoming named Steve Garbe. I chronied a few rounds and it runs around 850 fps. The barrel you see in the photo is eye candy. Actual barrel is about 8" long with 12 grooves and a 7.5" twist....for a round ball. Lemme know when you figure that out,....I haven't. All I know is it shoots far, far better than I can.
Posted By: DigitalDan Re: Stunt Pig shooting... - 05/28/21
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.22 CB Shorts rock. Quietly.

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Posted By: ExpatFromOK Re: Stunt Pig shooting... - 05/29/21
Originally Posted by ingwe
Originally Posted by ridgerunner_ky
Ingwe,
I’m just asking this out of curiosity. One of your older post you said when hunting around the world you used a 7x57, 300 h&h, and a 375 h&h . Then one of your recent post you said you basically use 223 mostly now. What made you go to the 223 over something in the 24-28 caliber range?
If you were to hunt elk again would you take the .223 or would you step up to something a little bigger?
How is your 223 set up?


Good questions all. When I quit hunting the world I no longer needed the magnums, because I rarely hunt anything larger than deer or hogs. I found a properly loaded 223 kills them as well as anything Ive ever used.Also enough recoil over a few decades screwed up my shoulder big time so I shy away from hard kickers now.

My one and only rifle over .224 is the .275 Rigby ( aka 7x57) which comes out of mothballs whenever Im hunting something expensive or bigger than deer. Were I to hunt elk again, thats what I'd use...cause I killed a few with a 7x57 back in the day and it is entirely adequate.

And FWIW Ive got three 223s and they are as follows:

Rem 700 3x9 Hawke scope with lighted red reticle

Rem 700 stainless 223AI with Burris 3x9, also lighted reticle

Tikka Superlight 1 in 8 twist Minox 3x9 for daytime use.


The Rem 700...

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]


The 700 in .223AI...

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]


The Tikka....

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]



Also FWIW I like the .222 for hogs and varmints, and the .17 Rem is excellent on hogs and fur friendly on varmints. Those are the two I use most.


You’ll smoke a turd in hell for posting game pics with a rifle wearing a Burris FFII. Everyone knows you can’t kill anything with a rifle wearing a POS scope like that!

One of the biggest optics bargains in existence. I have that scope on two rifles.
Posted By: RMerta Re: Stunt Pig shooting... - 05/29/21
17 Remington is no pansy round. I was trapping coyote on a large piece of property that was once a coal mine. There is as a piece of steel that was buried in the ground with a corner sticking out of the ground several inches. It was 3/8-1/2” thick.
It was a little over a hundred yards from where I parked my truck to check some sets. I always have my Tikka 17 Remington with me and would shoot the steel corner regularly.
One day I walked out to the steel and seen where the 17 bullets were punching a hole through the steel. Every where the bullet had hit was a small little hole through the steel.
That just impressed the heck out of me.
Posted By: ingwe Re: Stunt Pig shooting... - 05/29/21
Originally Posted by DigitalDan
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.22 CB Shorts rock. Quietly.

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I knew this was coming, and I bow to your prowess
Posted By: DigitalDan Re: Stunt Pig shooting... - 05/29/21
No need for that. You don’t need to wear track shoes with your .17, thinking’ I probably should. grin
Originally Posted by ingwe
Originally Posted by ridgerunner_ky
Ingwe,
I’m just asking this out of curiosity. One of your older post you said when hunting around the world you used a 7x57, 300 h&h, and a 375 h&h . Then one of your recent post you said you basically use 223 mostly now. What made you go to the 223 over something in the 24-28 caliber range?
If you were to hunt elk again would you take the .223 or would you step up to something a little bigger?
How is your 223 set up?


Good questions all. When I quit hunting the world I no longer needed the magnums, because I rarely hunt anything larger than deer or hogs. I found a properly loaded 223 kills them as well as anything Ive ever used.Also enough recoil over a few decades screwed up my shoulder big time so I shy away from hard kickers now.

My one and only rifle over .224 is the .275 Rigby ( aka 7x57) which comes out of mothballs whenever Im hunting something expensive or bigger than deer. Were I to hunt elk again, thats what I'd use...cause I killed a few with a 7x57 back in the day and it is entirely adequate.

And FWIW Ive got three 223s and they are as follows:

Rem 700 3x9 Hawke scope with lighted red reticle

Rem 700 stainless 223AI with Burris 3x9, also lighted reticle

Tikka Superlight 1 in 8 twist Minox 3x9 for daytime use.


The Rem 700...

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]


The 700 in .223AI...

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]


The Tikka....

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]



Also FWIW I like the .222 for hogs and varmints, and the .17 Rem is excellent on hogs and fur friendly on varmints. Those are the two I use most.


Looks like it works. What bullet do you use mostly in the 222 and 223?
Posted By: ingwe Re: Stunt Pig shooting... - 05/29/21
Originally Posted by ridgerunner_ky

Looks like it works. What bullet do you use mostly in the 222 and 223?



Ive used a bunch of different ones but day in day out I gravitate towards the plain Jane Hornady S.P. with cannelure in 55 gr.
Posted By: MagMarc Re: Stunt Pig shooting... - 05/29/21
Well done Poobs. The fact you’re a skilled rifleman doesn’t hurt either. I’m shooting my 7x57 a lot these days and it’s much more enjoyable than any magnum.
Posted By: Dirtfarmer Re: Stunt Pig shooting... - 05/29/21
Originally Posted by MagMarc
Well done Poobs. The fact you’re a skilled rifleman doesn’t hurt either. I’m shooting my 7x57 a lot these days and it’s much more enjoyable than any magnum.

You're not the first to come to that conclusion, won't be the last.

If kids and women kill stuff all the time with .223, .243 and such, why do guys seem need a .300 Wby to shoot the same stuff...?

I have some very nice magnums, just don't use them that much. They do have their place, just not where I'm hunting.

DF
Posted By: Hammerdown Re: Stunt Pig shooting... - 05/29/21
Looks like some good fun.
Posted By: DigitalDan Re: Stunt Pig shooting... - 05/29/21
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If kids and women kill stuff all the time with .223, .243 and such, why do guys seem need a .300 Wby to shoot the same stuff...?


'Cause Roy Weatherby would never have found a purpose in life?

Y'all know I hope that a 5.56/.223 with FMJ bullets be elephant medicine.
Posted By: geedubya Re: Stunt Pig shooting... - 05/30/21
Good Stuff!

ya!

GWB
Posted By: Jeffrey Re: Stunt Pig shooting... - 06/11/21
That’s pretty cool Ingwe.

You got any air rifles? smile
Posted By: PintsofCraft Re: Stunt Pig shooting... - 06/12/21
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No...no exits even on the smaller ( 70 pound) pigs.

My assumption- and I think it proved correct- is that the little slug would enter and immediately blow up, transmitting all energy into the brain.
All the hogs I shot with it stiffened up, fell over and never twitched.

A .223 in the same place puts them down for sure, but it completely penetrates and you get a funky chicken act for a couple minutes.The .17 seemed to electrocute them. I chose the 25 HP because it is ever so slightly 'harder' than the Vmax.
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Roy, Roy Weatherby…is that you?

Seriously though - Great pics and reflections on an interesting cartridge!
Posted By: TheKid Re: Stunt Pig shooting... - 06/12/21
I shot a 60 or 70 pounder up the ass as it was exiting the scene last winter. 25gr Hornady from about 150 yards. I hit right on the root of the tail and it put both back wheels out of commission. I assume it penetrated far enough to hit the very end of the spine. Just a guess though, I wasn’t dissecting a pig when it was 15 below zero. At any rate it seemed to do the job.
Posted By: Elkhunter49 Re: Stunt Pig shooting... - 06/12/21
Good job Tom, Killing those stinking bastards makes me smile buddy!
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