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Posted By: ShortMag11 Flying Rifles to Africa - 12/06/17
I'm going to be going on my first trip to Africa to hunt plains game this coming September. I have purchased a pelican rifle case for the travel. My question is the shop i bought the case from is trying to sell me "TSA Approved" combination pad locks for the case at the cost of around $23 each. They're telling me that if i dont have a "TSA Approved" lock TSA will cut the lock and my firearm will be totally unlocked for whomever to do as they may with it. Anyone ever heard of this?? Thanks in advance!

Randall
Posted By: wesheltonj Re: Flying Rifles to Africa - 12/06/17
That's BS, No TSA locks on Gun case. But you now need a lock in every hole, my pelican has 4 holes. I bought a set of master locks keyed alike.
Posted By: CRS Re: Flying Rifles to Africa - 12/06/17
Correct, no TSA locks on guns. You are the only one to have access. They will inspect them when you check them.
Posted By: haverluk Re: Flying Rifles to Africa - 12/06/17
What the above posters are saying is likely true but I have had locks cut on my cases three times in the last five years both domestically and internationally. One time they even cut the TSA locks.

I always put some extra heavy duty zip ties in the case and so far they have got the hint and used them if they felt so inclined to mess with my stuff.
Posted By: Slider1 Re: Flying Rifles to Africa - 12/06/17
Private locks only and one lock in every hole. Don't use Zip ties if a lock is cut. They can hold your Firearm in route and you won't receive it. Put 4 small private locks in your Gun Case!!! I have had Private locks cut off in the U.S. in-route Internationally and there are NO available private locks in the Airport's to replace one!!! They only sell TSA aproved Locks. I had to leave the Airport with all my baggage to purchase one private lock 2 moths ago!!!
Posted By: TSIBINDI Re: Flying Rifles to Africa - 12/06/17
No TSA locks. You have the key(s) to your locks, and the TSA agents must, by law, allow you to be in attendance while they open/close your gun case. Then they return your keys, and off you go. I've travelled to Africa 23 times, and I've never had (so far) any problems with TSA fussing about my locks.

Good hunting,
Posted By: Bighorn Re: Flying Rifles to Africa - 12/06/17
My gun case has two rods that go through all four latch holes, and are locked by two padlocks at either end of the case. In effect, all holes are locked, but with two padlocks. Is my case still acceptable, or do I need to ditch the rods and padlock all four holes individually? It has never been a problem in the past, but the non-TSA lock regs are also new since the last time I went to Africa- things change with time.
Posted By: wesheltonj Re: Flying Rifles to Africa - 12/06/17
My understanding is a lock in every hole the manufacturer has on the case. I've seen a guy cut off 2 of the tabs where lock go. I don't have a report how well that went over with the Fed's.
I bought 2 packages of 4 locks each package.
I put 4 locks on the Pelican and 1 pack of 4 inside the case on the top.
I place a note inside the case on top of the lock package that says "Please use these locks to secure this case if a necessity to cut my locks has occurred."
So far, it hasn't happened.
I keep both sets of keys on my travel key ring. The 2 sets of locks are keyed differently.
Posted By: McCray Re: Flying Rifles to Africa - 12/06/17
Or go to a real hardware store and just buy Masterlock locks keyed alike! They are in plain cardboard boxes of ten or twelve.

Both of my Pelican gun cases have two tabs for locks. Inside, in cutouts in the foam are two extra locks. On my Pelican ammo box is another lock and an extra inside. All these locks are keyed the same and I have an extra key inside my carry on, as well as my keyring. Wife has an extra also.

Come to think of it, my wife's Pelican carry-on size camera case has a keyed alike lock in it, although as carry-on, it isn't used much.

We do use TSA locks on "regular" luggage.
Posted By: tedthorn Re: Flying Rifles to Africa - 12/06/17
Good old fashioned padlocks in every hole

TSA locks are for your other luggage.....not you're rifle
Posted By: Fjold Re: Flying Rifles to Africa - 12/07/17
Originally Posted by rphguy
I bought 2 packages of 4 locks each package.
I put 4 locks on the Pelican and 1 pack of 4 inside the case on the top.
I place a note inside the case on top of the lock package that says "Please use these locks to secure this case if a necessity to cut my locks has occurred."
So far, it hasn't happened.
I keep both sets of keys on my travel key ring. The 2 sets of locks are keyed differently.


This!
Posted By: CRS Re: Flying Rifles to Africa - 12/07/17
When I went in 2016, I placed extra locks inside my gun case, just in case. Rules state that you are the only one to have access to your rifles.

When I go back this coming June, I will do the same thing again. But I will review all the rules again, just in case.

TSA locks on all regular luggage.
Posted By: hatari Re: Flying Rifles to Africa - 12/07/17
Originally Posted by wesheltonj
That's BS, No TSA locks on Gun case. But you now need a lock in every hole, my pelican has 4 holes. I bought a set of master locks keyed alike.



Or have a rod that secures the holes and the then the rod end secured with a lock. Learned that one the hard way last year. Rules change.
Posted By: mclevela Re: Flying Rifles to Africa - 12/09/17
American Lock Series 1100 1 1/2" are perfect for the Pelican cases.

Do not use TSA lock and if the airline counter agent tells you different politely call BS.
The spare locks inside the case is good advice if you run across a lock cutting idiot.
Posted By: ShortMag11 Re: Flying Rifles to Africa - 12/10/17
Thanks guys! Really appreciate the feedback!
Posted By: Sako76 Re: Flying Rifles to Africa - 12/10/17
Never use TSA locks on your firearms case!
Posted By: AKPENDUDE Re: Flying Rifles to Africa - 12/29/17
I've always used the brass master locks, they work perfectly.
Posted By: nurse Re: Flying Rifles to Africa - 01/04/18
Originally Posted by rphguy
I bought 2 packages of 4 locks each package.
I put 4 locks on the Pelican and 1 pack of 4 inside the case on the top.
I place a note inside the case on top of the lock package that says "Please use these locks to secure this case if a necessity to cut my locks has occurred."
So far, it hasn't happened.
I keep both sets of keys on my travel key ring. The 2 sets of locks are keyed differently.



I did the same. No problems...

They did, however, ruin my pistol case that had my ammo in it with my clothes/suitcase.....
Posted By: 163bc Re: Flying Rifles to Africa - 01/08/18
Originally Posted by Bighorn
My gun case has two rods that go through all four latch holes, and are locked by two padlocks at either end of the case. In effect, all holes are locked, but with two padlocks. Is my case still acceptable, or do I need to ditch the rods and padlock all four holes individually? It has never been a problem in the past, but the non-TSA lock regs are also new since the last time I went to Africa- things change with time.


I have the exact same style case. I've been to Africa 4 times and many other places with it w 2 locks on it. I keep 2 spare locks inside. I think you are good to go.
Posted By: Slider1 Re: Flying Rifles to Africa - 01/13/18
Although not mandatory(you can use a private lock or TSA lock on an ammo box) I would put a TSA lock on your ammo box.Why? just in case TSA wanted to open it. You can use a private lock but what if you get called on the loud speker as you are boarding the plane? TSA is suppose to contact you before cutting off a lock.
Posted By: landlord44 Re: Flying Rifles to Africa - 01/13/18
$23 for a sale padlock, since are considering this.
PLEASE CAN I BORROW A MILLION $. will give it back someday.
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