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Posted By: Sycamore Game Changer.... - 06/20/20
https://www.wired.com/story/the-fda-revokes-its-emergency-use-authorization-for-hydroxychloroquine/?

The FDA Revokes Its Emergency Use Authorization for Hydroxychloroquine


So far, no studies have shown that the antimalarial drug can fight Covid-19, and agency officials say its potential benefits do not outweigh its risks.
Posted By: jaguartx Re: Game Changer.... - 06/20/20
They have to start jacking the numbers of Covid up to fulfill the dimocommie narrative.

It has essentially no risks. I've monitored patients on it for 30 years and discontinued TX on 2 patients who had taken the med daily for 8-10 years. One of those was a lady weighing about 130 lbs and should have been on 300 mg/day instead of 400 mg.

Its safer than aspirin. Go ahead, take 2 full strength aspirin a day for 10 years.
Posted By: jaguartx Re: Game Changer.... - 06/20/20
Quit sucking CNN cock and see what's happening in the real world. We are swallowing your BS sky is falling DNC narrative.

Add 2+2 and figure out why Trump, most the world leaders, their wives, kids, top military people and I dont wear masks. I'll give you a clue, "Plaquenil".

Why did a Wuhan Dr say none of his arthritis or lupus pts on Plaquenil got Covid?

Quit pushing your hopes and dumbfuckedness like a badge of honor.



Posted By: g5m Re: Game Changer.... - 06/20/20
What risks are they talking about??
Posted By: rockinbbar Re: Game Changer.... - 06/20/20
Originally Posted by g5m
What risks are they talking about??



Liberals may burp up a cum bubble after watching a Trump Rally.

High risk to them.


grin
Posted By: Quak Re: Game Changer.... - 06/20/20
I’d take it if I got covid 19

That’s the best endorsement I can give
Posted By: Borchardt Re: Game Changer.... - 06/20/20
I would not believe much from the FDA. It is owned by people who want to profit from expensive drugs, not cheap ones that are 50 years old with expired patents.
Posted By: jaguartx Re: Game Changer.... - 06/20/20
Originally Posted by Borchardt
I would not believe much from the FDA. It is owned by people who want to profit from expensive drugs, not cheap ones that are 50 years old with expired patents.


And they are deep state corksuckers. Unfortunately, some are too dumb to follow the money, or as with Hydroxychloroquine, the lack thereof.

My former patient and personal friend.




Posted By: batch Re: Game Changer.... - 06/21/20
I've taken it multiple times based on where I was stationed/deployed and don't think it had adverse effects. Might show some when I hit 80+, still young now, ~70.
Posted By: lightning Re: Game Changer.... - 06/21/20
Originally Posted by Sycamore
https://www.wired.com/story/the-fda-revokes-its-emergency-use-authorization-for-hydroxychloroquine/?

The FDA Revokes Its Emergency Use Authorization for Hydroxychloroquine


So far, no studies have shown that the antimalarial drug can fight Covid-19, and agency officials say its potential benefits do not outweigh its risks.



It's going to be hard to sell your DNC Kool-aid here.
Posted By: fester Re: Game Changer.... - 06/21/20
Suck it more.... smdh....
Posted By: RayF Re: Game Changer.... - 06/21/20
I listened to Dr. Vladimir Zelenko speak (in March) about his results with hydroxychloroquine, zinc and Z-packs and it was so compelling that I couldn’t/can’t understand why it didn’t become a more focused study.
Posted By: Sitka deer Re: Game Changer.... - 06/21/20
Originally Posted by RayF
I listened to Dr. Vladimir Zelenko speak (in March) about his results with hydroxychloroquine, zinc and Z-packs and it was so compelling that I couldn’t/can’t understand why it didn’t become a more focused study.

Because studying it without zinc gave the desired results to "researchers..."
Posted By: jaguartx Re: Game Changer.... - 06/21/20
Originally Posted by RayF
I listened to Dr. Vladimir Zelenko speak (in March) about his results with hydroxychloroquine, zinc and Z-packs and it was so compelling that I couldn’t/can’t understand why it didn’t become a more focused study.


For the same reason Mi, Pa, NJ and Sickers hero, Quermo pushed sick grannies over the cliff by sending them to nursing homes rather than to hospitals with drs, nurses and quarantine.

Push the death count up to put fear in people and push money making treatments and mail in ballots.

Some, like Sickermore are too slow to pick up on the clue that what the DNC accuses Rs of doing is to cover what they are doing.

I had 2 patients who missed their biannual appointments show up 3-4 mo late. I asked them where they had been and they said they missed their appt because they had been sent to hospice to fie several months before. They both came to the conclusion they were going to be killed there if they didn't get out.
They did and made it with family more than another year or so.

Palin was right. Sickermore and his buds supported DNC death panels. Hey, it saves .Gov lots of money in the long run and govt can spend their SS on buying votes. Win, win.

Leftists like Gayghost, Northmam, djs, la Roy and Ejp are too stupid to figure that out.
Posted By: RayF Re: Game Changer.... - 06/21/20
Originally Posted by Sitka deer
Because studying it without zinc gave the desired results to "researchers..."

Ahhhhh.

Oddly, even when it’s supporters mention it, they fail to mention zinc.....when (according to Dr. Zelenko) the zinc is what is believed to kill the virus (or prevent it from replicating). The hydroxychloroquine is described as just being the vehicle to get it inside the affected host cells. Apparently, zinc doesn’t permeate cell walls very well.
Posted By: rong Re: Game Changer.... - 06/21/20
Originally Posted by Borchardt
I would not believe much from the FDA. It is owned by people who want to profit from expensive drugs, not cheap ones that are 50 years old with expired patents.


I have believed this from the beginng of this debacle.
There is no coin to be made from existing drugs,big pharma won't allow it
Posted By: jaguartx Re: Game Changer.... - 06/21/20
Next Sicker and his buds will be lamenting the increased numbers of infected folks which more testing will naturally reveal. They will be too stupid to see the death count will not take a big jump, nor will it matter. It will be Trumps fault for trying to keep the US from going under.

The bad part is the stupid in America will believe it and as stupid as Sicker is he will post it on it here and hes stupid enough to think we will believe it.

This is what Sicker and his crew want us to worry about, not real threats.

Posted By: RayF Re: Game Changer.... - 06/21/20
Originally Posted by jaguartx
For the same reason Mi, Pa, NJ and Sickers hero, Quermo pushed sick grannies over the cliff by sending them to nursing homes rather than to hospitals with drs, nurses and quarantine.

Push the death count up to put fear in people and push money making treatments and mail in ballots.

This is difficult to digest as it’s akin to Hitler’s final solution. Not in numbers, level of psychopathology or purpose, but in command in control. That is an organized undertaking that rivals Hollywood movie proportions. I have no debate to offer. Just hard for my simple self to perceive.
Posted By: jaguartx Re: Game Changer.... - 06/21/20
Sickermore and his dimocommie buds are so stupid they cant even learn they are stupid.

Watch this:

Hey Sicker, how many more years ago before NYC is under water?
Posted By: jaguartx Re: Game Changer.... - 06/21/20
Originally Posted by RayF
Originally Posted by jaguartx
For the same reason Mi, Pa, NJ and Sickers hero, Quermo pushed sick grannies over the cliff by sending them to nursing homes rather than to hospitals with drs, nurses and quarantine.

Push the death count up to put fear in people and push money making treatments and mail in ballots.

This is difficult to digest as it’s akin to Hitler’s final solution. Not in numbers, level of psychopathology or purpose, but in command in control. That is an organized undertaking that rivals Hollywood movie proportions. I have no debate to offer. Just hard for my simple self to perceive.


It's easy once you put it in perspective. Bloomberg, Cuomos, Schumer et al depend on the NWO cabal Bolshevic plan of over a century to take America down, as they did Prussia and tried in Germany.

They control most of the world and will do anything to keep Trump from destroying the NWO. They didnt mind taking a bunch out of China did they?

You need to read up on the Pelican and Gulftainer projects in the American Report and Whats It Mean.

We missed being taken out by the number of votes Hillary lost by.

Hitler realized you can pull off the most horrendous schemes if they are just too bizarre to be believable.

We are here now only by the grace OF GOD and Trump.

You want to talk about a real game changer?

https://theamericanreport.org/category/home/gulftainer/
Posted By: jaguartx Re: Game Changer.... - 06/21/20
What James Woolsey said he feared most and lost sleep over at night next to computer hacking warfare taking us out:
I cant find his original interview.
Posted By: 12344mag Re: Game Changer.... - 06/21/20
Yes it is a game changer, now many more will die unnecessarily for political ideology.
Posted By: jaguartx Re: Game Changer.... - 06/21/20
Originally Posted by 12344mag
Yes it is a game changer, now many more will die unnecessarily for political ideology.


Amen.
Posted By: Sycamore Re: Game Changer.... - 06/21/20
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/20/health/hydroxychloroquine-coronavirus-trial.html

By Katie Thomas
June 20, 2020

The National Institutes of Health said Saturday that it had stopped two clinical trials of hydroxychloroquine, the malaria drug that President Trump promoted to treat and prevent the coronavirus, one because the drug was unlikely to be effective and the other because not enough patients signed up to participate.

The agency halted a trial that had aimed to enroll more than 500 patients after an independent oversight board determined that the drug did not appear to benefit hospitalized patients. The same day, the N.I.H. said it had closed another trial — of hydroxychloroquine and the antibiotic azithromycin — because only about 20 patients had enrolled in the planned study of 2,000 people.

The two trials the N.I.H. shut down represent the latest evidence that hydroxychloroquine has not lived up to its early promise of fighting the coronavirus.

The N.I.H. said Saturday that an independent oversight board that monitors safety met late Friday to discuss the 500-patient trial and “determined that while there was no harm, the study drug was very unlikely to be beneficial to hospitalized patients with Covid-19,” the disease caused by the virus.

“In effect, the drug didn’t work,” said Dr. William Schaffner, a professor of infectious diseases at Vanderbilt University Medical Center who was not involved in the research. “I think we can put this drug aside and now devote our attention to other potential treatments.”

Mr. Trump had called the drug a “game changer” and took it himself in hopes of protecting himself from infection with the coronavirus. Drugmakers donated millions of doses to the federal stockpile, which distributed them to hospitals around the country, where doctors with few other options administered the drug to severely ill patients.

On Monday, the Food and Drug Administration revoked the emergency authorization it had granted to hospitals to give hydroxychloroquine and a related drug, chloroquine, to patients. The agency said that the drugs were unlikely to be effective and could carry potential risks.

While the N.I.H. said it did not identify safety concerns as part of its review of the 500-patient trial, others have concluded that hydroxychloroquine carries potential risks. This spring, the F.D.A. issued a warning that the drugs could cause dangerous heart arrhythmias in Covid-19 patients.

The planned trial, which was being run by the National Heart, Lung, and Blood Institute, a division of the N.I.H., had enrolled more than 470 patients when the study was stopped. The study sought to learn whether the drug benefited hospitalized patients and those who visited the emergency room, as well as people who were likely to be admitted to the hospital. It was one of several placebo-controlled studies that had been organized to test the drug after a series of small, poorly controlled trials showed early signs of a benefit.

The other trial that was halted, involving hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin, was testing whether the drugs, given together earlier in the disease, could prevent hospitalization and death from Covid-19. That study, led by the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, an arm of the N.I.H., “sought to fill this knowledge gap by testing it in a randomized, placebo-controlled trial — considered the gold standard for determining whether an intervention can benefit patients,” the agency said in a statement.

The agency said it did not find any safety problems, but concluded that the recent decision by the F.D.A. to revoke its emergency authorization of hydroxychloroquine “could further dampen enthusiasm for enrollment in studies evaluating these drugs.”

Several other large trials of hydroxychloroquine have been stopped or have not shown the drug to be effective.

“No surprise,” said Dr. David R. Boulware, an infectious disease specialist at the University of Minnesota, who is studying hydroxychloroquine as a preventive and an early treatment against the coronavirus. He said the evidence is increasingly clear that the drug does not work in hospitalized patients. “Whether there is any benefit for pre-exposure prophylaxis or early treatment is as yet unknown, but the role of hydroxychloroquine — if any — appears increasingly doubtful.”

On Wednesday, the World Health Organization said it was stopping the hydroxychloroquine arm of a large clinical trial that is testing several treatments against the virus because evidence — including results from a large study in the United Kingdom — showed it did not reduce mortality rates of hospitalized patients.

And on Friday, the Swiss drugmaker Novartis said it was halting its clinical trial because it could not recruit enough patients to sign up. Only a handful enrolled even though the company had planned for a study involving 440 people.

Other researchers are still studying whether hydroxychloroquine could be used earlier in the course of the illness, or to prevent people from getting infected from the virus. While some of those studies are still underway, one such trial — led by Dr. Boulware — concluded earlier this month that hydroxychloroquine was not effective in preventing infections after someone had been exposed.

That trial included 821 people and looked at whether those who were exposed to the virus, such as health care workers or family members of people who had been infected, were less or more likely to be infected themselves if they were given the drug. It found that there was not a meaningful difference.
Posted By: Terryk Re: Game Changer.... - 06/22/20
Here they are testing 10X more people, and finding 1/10 of the cases. Highest testing, lowest numbers. The disease was suspected or found in 6 deaths total. None were on a vent, and average age was 88 or so.
My wife is a nurse, and their hospital is testing like mad. They require screening before a procedure, and so far all the positive patients did not realize they were infected.
Point being positive cases are not necessarily people that are on death's door step. The low numbers now are scraping the bottom to find any real impact on the population.
Local lib paper has fear mongering every day. Less and less people are listening to propaganda and are just living.
Largest local hospital, and it is a big one, just laid of 10% of workers, after a reduction a few weeks ago. So here I can say the damage from china flu was lack of preventative care, and naturally economic.
Here the china flu was a ghost, and just as real. Maybe hydroxychloroquine could kill a ghost, I don't know.
Posted By: 12344mag Re: Game Changer.... - 06/22/20
Originally Posted by Sycamore
The two trials the N.I.H. shut down represent the latest evidence that hydroxychloroquine has not lived up to its early promise of fighting the coronavirus.


So because not enough signed up the drug is now deemed not useful? Now that is a thorough trial!

Liberal logic is amazing!
Posted By: jaguartx Re: Game Changer.... - 06/22/20
Originally Posted by 12344mag
Originally Posted by Sycamore
The two trials the N.I.H. shut down represent the latest evidence that hydroxychloroquine has not lived up to its early promise of fighting the coronavirus.


So because not enough signed up the drug is now deemed not useful? Now that is a thorough trial!

Liberal logic is amazing!


I'm convinced Sickermore needs the vaccine.
Posted By: Sitka deer Re: Game Changer.... - 06/22/20
Originally Posted by RayF
Originally Posted by Sitka deer
Because studying it without zinc gave the desired results to "researchers..."

Ahhhhh.

Oddly, even when it’s supporters mention it, they fail to mention zinc.....when (according to Dr. Zelenko) the zinc is what is believed to kill the virus (or prevent it from replicating). The hydroxychloroquine is described as just being the vehicle to get it inside the affected host cells. Apparently, zinc doesn’t permeate cell walls very well.

Exactly.
Posted By: las Re: Game Changer.... - 06/22/20
The agency said that the drugs were unlikely to be effective and could carry potential risks.

That gives me sore balls just reading it, and not a fence in sight. Now for the motive......
Posted By: plainsman456 Re: Game Changer.... - 06/23/20
It takes 3 in the treatment not just by itself or just with 2.

They just don't want to give anything a fair shake that won't make their homies more money.
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