Fortunately there are a LOT of proud conservatives on the Fire that are happy to continue feed their tax dollars to very evil states. Happy that the north won. Still all for women in power. Color apologists
All of the liberals and 1/2 of the conservatives aren't worth dying for.
America survived the 1960s and it will survive and get over this period.
There are many similarities to 1968-72, even down to a POTUS that was very effective, but not personally loved. As I recall, Nixon drubbed a liberal nincompoop named George McGorvern during re-election.
Millennials are the spawn of 1960s radicals. After the radical Boomers age out of politics, the more placid Gen X'er's will rule for a while, then the wild-assed millennials will have their turn.
The population in 68-72 had a much different outlook on life than people today [as you well know] millennial age group is what? 40 years old now ?
Like Mike S above said the beginning of communism is right around the corner .
As someone stated the other day ''conservatives haven't conserved anything'' and the right has no plan of attack that I know of and blathering we gotta get out there and vote - take back the senate . It's way too late for that , that might kick the can down the road 4 more years while the communist left does exactly what they're doing now X3 .
BIG CHANGES ARE COMING IN THE NEXT TEN YEARS book it .
It might be a good idea to move to a formerly communist country that realizes how bad it was. This country doesn't seem able to learn from the mistakes of others. We seem determined to experience total socialism/communism with all its attendant ills ourselves. We are already halfway (or more)there.
The population in 68-72 had a much different outlook on life than people today [as you well know] millennial age group is what? 40 years old now ?
Like Mike S above said the beginning of communism is right around the corner .
As someone stated the other day ''conservatives haven't conserved anything'' and the right has no plan of attack that I know of and blathering we gotta get out there and vote - take back the senate . It's way too late for that , that might kick the can down the road 4 more years while the communist left does exactly what they're doing now X3 .
BIG CHANGES ARE COMING IN THE NEXT TEN YEARS book it .
A lot of defeatists on this board and thread. There are a lot of guys that did time in the Sandbox for their country. They don't like what's going on either. All it takes is the right person to stand up and say, "no more". There's a lot of people in the country that need to be shoved into Mexico with the illegals they love and not allowed back in, ever. They are not Americans, they're just f u c king commies.
A curse shall light upon the limbs of men Domestic fury and fierce civil strife shall cumber all The parts of Italy Blood and destruction shall be so in use, And dreadful objects so familiar, That mothers shall but smile when they behold Their infants quartered with the hands of war, All pity choked with custom of fell deeds, And Caesars spirit ranging for revenge come hot from Hell, with Ate by his side Shall in these confines with a monarchs voice cry havoc! And let slip the dogs of war !!!! That this foul deed shall smell above the earth With carrion men groaning for burial.
The population in 68-72 had a much different outlook on life than people today [as you well know] millennial age group is what? 40 years old now ?
Like Mike S above said the beginning of communism is right around the corner .
As someone stated the other day ''conservatives haven't conserved anything'' and the right has no plan of attack that I know of and blathering we gotta get out there and vote - take back the senate . It's way too late for that , that might kick the can down the road 4 more years while the communist left does exactly what they're doing now X3 .
BIG CHANGES ARE COMING IN THE NEXT TEN YEARS book it .
I believe God is in control. And, as Solomon said, "There is nothing new under the sun."
Absolutely true but the prophecies are very scary. If we are indeed approaching or in the end times, it'll get far scarier as we go. It'll be a very bad time to not be a believer.
America survived the 1960s and it will survive and get over this period.
There are many similarities to 1968-72,
Nope.
The differences today are bigger than the similarities; in the '60 & into the '70's there was still a wide silent, majority & a good foundation & appreciation of the founding principles of the country.................that majority, if there even is one today, is razor thin & the minority much more organized, violent & aggressive across the country than ever before.
I can only hope for the best & prepare for the worst, but we've not not seen the worst yet, IMO.
Things may eventually get better, but we have not seen the pinnacle of the worst yet.
A lot of defeatists on this board and thread. There are a lot of guys that did time in the Sandbox for their country. They don't like what's going on either. All it takes is the right person to stand up and say, "no more". There's a lot of people in the country that need to be shoved into Mexico with the illegals they love and not allowed back in, ever. They are not Americans, they're just f u c king commies.
EthanEdward ,
Howdy .
Not a defeatist here and the vast majority of people on this board aren't either . I'm speaking for the VAST MAJORITY of friends/acquaintances that I know and know for a fact that they won't ever chance losing any of their material belongings . Nor do they care if they leave their kids/grandkids behind facing war or communism . They'll pretend a lot of things but the real truth is they plan to live out their lives having a good time sitting by their pool - comfy chair - chips&dips as I often say . Over half the countries population are brainwashed mouth-breathers and a solid half of the so called right/conservatives are to . Someone recently said as much and I fully agree . The sooner we face the facts that this country is in big trouble the better . The time for standing around having a peaceful protest is over - shouting USA - USA isn't going to help our cause .
What we need as a country is for the PEOPLE to stand up and say enough is enough - we're not going to let a bunch of thieving rioters wreck/burn/steal anything .
Standing around like a bunch of do-nothings is the problem , if we had well regulated militia's like we're suppose to none of these things would happen because the punks would know better . Also the police/politicians et.al. need to know who they work for - this is a huge problem -- they are not our bosses and they should NEVER THINK they can tell us anything . Why do they abandon their police station paid for by the taxpayers - because they don't want to be beat to death and they're HUGELY OUTNUMBERED . Why are they outnumbered - because the people won't get off their lazy do-nothing asses and get involved - the same people who paid millions of dollars in taxes for those buildings .
If there's a potential riot the citizens should come out in big numbers and say protest all you want but nothing over and above loud talking . Let the protesters know that they better police their ranks - if one of them throws a brick through a window - they better be turning that person over to the police immediately .
Every big city has good people in it who are outnumbered - saying ah-piss-on Seattle/Minneapolis isn't the way should be - the point is that nobody has the right to destroy and steal what others have worked hard to build and own .
But no one I know would get involved - too busy with important things like - fun stuff this weekend . So i'll stick with my defeatist mentality and say the country is lost IMO .Over & out .
Old people have been talking the place is going to hell in a handbasket for years. My great Uncle Earnest kept predicting another Great Depression to anyone that would listen. He died many years before the Farm Crisis in the mid eighties.
65BR: Starting 17 (seventeen) years ago on this forum and for a few years before that on other forums I have been posting about my fears for this country and its march towards self destruction (caused internally by socialism, welfare state, anti-American politicians and anti-American values etc etc etc). My fears for the future of our country are stronger today than ever before. And that scares me. I recommend buying silver dimes in bulk, obtain a "country place" with its own water and a place to grow food and food animals - if you never have to rely on it and secrete yourself there then certainly (at this rate!) your children and/or grandchildren will need it to survive! And THAT is a sad commentary on the state of affairs in our country. Hold into the wind VarmintGuy
VarmintGuy, you and I have been preaching , pretty much, the same sermon! We often get the “tin foil hat” digs, for what we see as the future of our nation! When the “ship hits the sand”, some of us will do OK......others not so much! Those that chose to ignore the warnings, will be held accountable for the dismal future they have given their families! It’s not too late , but time is running short to make the move needed to provide themselves a chance for a better life! memtb
A lot depends if the civilized masses organize to counter the Marxists.
The current lot of GOP leaders are cowards. There is going to be a need for something else. A organization that enforces traditional American values. Be on a lookout for this new organization.
Trump wins 2020 the radicals will bring the fight to us...Looting, burning, and playing Wreck it Ralph to anything and anyone, while liberal politicians will placate with more excuses, understanding, and refusal to deploy police and NG to stop the attacks on people and property.
PNW will probably become ground zero. Some talented people will go quiet and not seek attention for the work that must be done.
Home addresses will identify targets of responsibility. People will be taken. Police will be engaged if they attempt to stop or protect the individuals who own the responsibility for encouraging or allowing criminal violence on their citizens.
A fight, it will be, and people who are nationally recognized will get hurt.
Prediction of fact...No one can be expected to sustain physical damage with local governments approval.
Nothing will really change until Mr and Mrs. normal citizen starts being really uncomfortable. As long as folks aren't afraid and the riots are only in big cities, middle America will just watch and go about their business.
A lot of defeatists on this board and thread. There are a lot of guys that did time in the Sandbox for their country. They don't like what's going on either. All it takes is the right person to stand up and say, "no more". There's a lot of people in the country that need to be shoved into Mexico with the illegals they love and not allowed back in, ever. They are not Americans, they're just f u c king commies.
EthanEdward ,
Howdy .
Not a defeatist here and the vast majority of people on this board aren't either . I'm speaking for the VAST MAJORITY of friends/acquaintances that I know and know for a fact that they won't ever chance losing any of their material belongings . Nor do they care if they leave their kids/grandkids behind facing war or communism . They'll pretend a lot of things but the real truth is they plan to live out their lives having a good time sitting by their pool - comfy chair - chips&dips as I often say . Over half the countries population are brainwashed mouth-breathers and a solid half of the so called right/conservatives are to . Someone recently said as much and I fully agree . The sooner we face the facts that this country is in big trouble the better . The time for standing around having a peaceful protest is over - shouting USA - USA isn't going to help our cause .
This right here, we're all great on talking about "Well, the NEXT time..." or "if they do THAT we oughta..." Talk. Talk and buy guns and magazines and prepper crap. Just like right here, right now... We ain't doing nothing...
Nothing will really change until Mr and Mrs. normal citizen starts being really uncomfortable. As long as folks aren't afraid and the riots are only in big cities, middle America will just watch and go about their business.
Sums it up.
The sales of guns and ammo to non gun owners is a sign. As is growing support for gun ownership starting with the Rodney King riots with Katrina giving a boost. People were uncomfortable with their vulnerabilities, arming was their solution. And a step.
“My biggest fear is this socialist, communist movement if you will, this surge of socialism that they’re trying to push in this country to diminish the Constitution, diminish people’s rights, to take over towns like what’s happened in Seattle,” the former police commissioner said.
Armed conflict in the spring on 2021 between the two governments of the United States.
Civil unrest continues this year. If we get the ban on chokeholds, we will see the Rodney King incident in Sep/Oct to re-energize the unrest and the Democrat base before the election.
The election will have no winner: A Democrat win (unlikely)= fraud due to mail in voting. A Republican win = Fraud by Trump, "look at how far we were ahead in the polls; look at how Americans were fed up and in the streets; I told you he wouldn't give up power"
A long legal battle will ensue.
Meanwhile, over the Christmas holiday the radicals will push forward with the destruction of Jesus and the Church. Civil unrest and the divide will grow.
Come Inauguration day, the matter will not be settled and Biden will set up a separate government taking all the usual Democrat suspects with him. Both sides will seek foreign aid to legitimize their claim. At this time is when the division of states and the armed conflict will start.
The divide between our ideoligies is too great to stand as one nation. The stake has been driven and the die cast long ago. What you are witnessing is the culmination of a plan to destroy our nation from within. The true players will not be revealed until the conflict starts and aid is rendered by foreign nations.
Look for targeted assassinations probably on both sides as well as bombings targeting individuals, the power grid, and water supply. Lots of folks around who got a good close look at the Sunni/Shiite tactics. If there’s people who can get intel, funders of antifa and blm along with media blowhards might end up with IED’s in their trash cans.
We are one election away from communism, either 2020 or 2024.
This ^
One way or the other, win or lose the next one, all we’re doing is prolonging the inevitable. They are playing for keeps and are out to annihilate us and our way of life. When we win we just play the appeasement game So all we do is slow down what they’re out to do. We aren’t willing to do what it takes to win. They are. Simple math...
I think Mr. Rifles and More pretty well laid out the blueprint. Rural America hasn't been affected yet. If it were to spread out to small town America...MAYBE, the Marxists will get a different reception. But right now? Most of the old vigilante types I know fear the cops and the badly tilted legal system more than rioters. Clearly, video after video, the cops will follow orders of the government officials that sign their paychecks and manage their retirement fund...the judges will follow the path taught to them in the same colleges that produce the revolutionaries. Gonna have to get pretty bad to get us old bastards off the couch given the current legal climate.
Unless we slide into a full on Civil war, we are pretty much cooked.
This right here. This country needs a permanent split. Republicans and Democrat Socialist/ communists or whatever they are cannot live with each other anymore. We need a permanent and final divorce... Too many irreconcilable differences...We been forcing this marriage to work for years and it isn't going to work...It either gets settled with violence or splitting the country in half.
Unless we slide into a full on Civil war, we are pretty much cooked.
This right here. This country needs a permanent split. Republicans and Democrat Socialist/ communists or whatever they are cannot live with each other anymore. We need a permanent and final divorce... It either gets settled with violence or splitting the country in half.
No need for half, just let em have Kalifornia and be done with it. We’ll get it back in a few years after they implode anyway.
Personally, I am of the opinion that we about 1/2 to 5/8 of the way into a very well planned and executed Marxist takeover. They've "only" been working at it for 110 years or so, and they knew it was a 100-year plan to begin with.
The country is done. We'll never get it back. 70% of those under 30 are socialist, antifas, BLM sympathizers. As we die off the country will erode into a 3rd world [bleep] hole.
If the nazi's ever get all 3 branches of the fed again, they'll outlaw firearms, make legal voting by mail and proxy, etc.
America was a great idea. The slide started with welfare. It's all but over.
Unless we slide into a full on Civil war, we are pretty much cooked.
This right here. This country needs a permanent split. Republicans and Democrat Socialist/ communists or whatever they are cannot live with each other anymore. We need a permanent and final divorce... Too many irreconcilable differences...We been forcing this marriage to work for years and it isn't going to work...It either gets settled with violence or splitting the country in half.
It won't work that way Bub. Like Wisconsin, where the split is 50-50.
Unless we slide into a full on Civil war, we are pretty much cooked.
This right here. This country needs a permanent split. Republicans and Democrat Socialist/ communists or whatever they are cannot live with each other anymore. We need a permanent and final divorce... Too many irreconcilable differences...We been forcing this marriage to work for years and it isn't going to work...It either gets settled with violence or splitting the country in half.
It won't work that way Bub. Like Wisconsin, where the split is 50-50.
I never said it would be easy...A lot of states are like that with the 50-50 split...I'm saying we cannot live with them anymore and they cannot live with us anymore. There is too many fundamental differences to overcome, and we are forced to live together or leave the country... What happens in a marriage like that when both sides get to the point where they can't stand the other anymore but they have no way out financially? Nothing good. At some point, this country is going to implode and it is either going to lead to a lot of violence or a lot of diplomacy that fundamentally changes the country, probably both...There is no easy solution outside of one side just kicking the crap out of the other and making them bend to their will....
Well. we have an interesting mix of prognosticators, "it's been coming for a long time" soothsayers, and major woe-is-us predictors on here- very interesting to read a number of these thoughts and predictions. Some are knowingly creative, I'm not learned or smart enough to be any of the above.
I do seem to understand mankind a bit, and any national expectations I have come from that stem.
In almost every person there burns some flame of personal freedom - in some that flame seems dim almost to the point of disappearance, and those folks will not much decide our future. They make themselves pawns - as ever. In some, that flame burns bright and strong - an immense source of hope.
In many, many folks that flame has been unrealized/subjugated/suppressed by many factors - some due to personal interests/choices, some due to unconsidered lives, some due to devious indoctrination, etc., etc. The stirring of the flame of personal freedom, self-reliance and personal responsibility in these folks will be the deciding factor. I remain very hopeful - even with a degree of optimism..
There will be no divorce. There is but one path forward. Someone will end up at the edge of a big hole with a pistol to the back of their head. The only choice is whether you will be the one in front of the pistol, or behind it. They want it to be you. When they want that, the only two options you have are to submit, or annihilate them. I have made my choice. Hope enough others come along. Genocide sucks. It sucks worse when you receive it than when you deal it out. It is coming because too many people failed to grasp the commitment level of the opponent in a timely fashion. Now it is coming, and we only get to choose our role in it
The biggest mistake the "conservatives" can make, and I see it all the time, is to assume that the opposition is just a bunch of limp wrist snowflakes. Sure, a large portion of them are, but there are some dangerous folks among them as well. Why do you think Marxism spread like a disease in the last century? It wasn't because its believers were weak. They forced it, with extreme prejudice.
The biggest mistake the "conservatives" can make, and I see it all the time, is to assume that the opposition is just a bunch of limp wrist snowflakes. Sure, a large portion of them are, but there are some dangerous folks among them as well. Why do you think Marxism spread like a disease in the last century? It wasn't because its believers were weak. They forced it, with extreme prejudice.
Exactly right ..
I read it here all the time WE HAVE GUNS - THEY DON'T --LAF -- if by chance gunfire level violence were to break out the right would loose because of the mindset I mentioned . Antifa types are likely training military style -street tactics- while conservatives still haven't given any of it any thought . The same way Antifa knows how to separate people so they can beat the crap out of a few - they do the same thing with guns .
They [commies] will make short quick attacks then disappear like a puff of vape smoke in strong wind .
The biggest mistake the "conservatives" can make, and I see it all the time, is to assume that the opposition is just a bunch of limp wrist snowflakes. Sure, a large portion of them are, but there are some dangerous folks among them as well. Why do you think Marxism spread like a disease in the last century? It wasn't because its believers were weak. They forced it, with extreme prejudice.
Exactly right ..
I read it here all the time WE HAVE GUNS - THEY DON'T --LAF -- if by chance gunfire level violence were to break out the right would loose because of the mindset I mentioned . Antifa types are likely training military style -street tactics- while conservatives still haven't given any of it any thought . The same way Antifa knows how to separate people so they can beat the crap out of a few - they do the same thing with guns .
They [commies] will make short quick attacks then disappear like a puff of vape smoke in strong wind .
Really? Where do they do this training and who organizes it? You seem to know a lot about an organization that doesn't even exist.
And you once accused me of having a terrible California bias.
Originally Posted by Dryfly24
Originally Posted by Ramdiesel
Originally Posted by Mannlicher
Unless we slide into a full on Civil war, we are pretty much cooked.
This right here. This country needs a permanent split. Republicans and Democrat Socialist/ communists or whatever they are cannot live with each other anymore. We need a permanent and final divorce... It either gets settled with violence or splitting the country in half.
No need for half, just let em have Kalifornia and be done with it. We’ll get it back in a few years after they implode anyway.
I believe God is in control. And, as Solomon said, "There is nothing new under the sun."
Yep; humans are fallen creatures and their institutions cannot stand. We as a nation will inevitably fall; like Rome it will come due to our being spoiled by own affluence. I’m dedicated to doing what I can to leave my kids & grandkids the best country I can but I am a citizen of a city whose builder and maker is God Himself.
The biggest mistake the "conservatives" can make, and I see it all the time, is to assume that the opposition is just a bunch of limp wrist snowflakes. Sure, a large portion of them are, but there are some dangerous folks among them as well. Why do you think Marxism spread like a disease in the last century? It wasn't because its believers were weak. They forced it, with extreme prejudice.
Exactly right ..
I read it here all the time WE HAVE GUNS - THEY DON'T --LAF -- if by chance gunfire level violence were to break out the right would loose because of the mindset I mentioned . Antifa types are likely training military style -street tactics- while conservatives still haven't given any of it any thought . The same way Antifa knows how to separate people so they can beat the crap out of a few - they do the same thing with guns .
They [commies] will make short quick attacks then disappear like a puff of vape smoke in strong wind .
Really? Where do they do this training and who organizes it? You seem to know a lot about an organization that doesn't even exist.
You are a dimocrap, which means you're full of crap. You think you're smart but you're bulb is dim.
Your words will prove you lied again. You need to quit listening to CNN.
If the looting and torched buildings haven’t enlightened normal, family-raising, working folks........we are done anyway.
I do believe Trump will win, things will burn and be stolen/looted for 4 more years.....and no one with Trumps fortitude is waiting in the wings.
They like to do the crime, just have a problem with the time.
Conservative States will eventually initiate higher tax rates for ‘defecting’ liberals from California and similar States. Also, in another effort of deterrence, longer wait times for State residency.
Liberals don’t like insanely high taxes, but will take their moronic beliefs with them, wherever they go.
It will be challenged in court, all the way up. Hope Trump has at least one justice replaced way before then.
The biggest mistake the "conservatives" can make, and I see it all the time, is to assume that the opposition is just a bunch of limp wrist snowflakes. Sure, a large portion of them are, but there are some dangerous folks among them as well. Why do you think Marxism spread like a disease in the last century? It wasn't because its believers were weak. They forced it, with extreme prejudice.
Exactly right ..
I read it here all the time WE HAVE GUNS - THEY DON'T --LAF -- if by chance gunfire level violence were to break out the right would loose because of the mindset I mentioned . Antifa types are likely training military style -street tactics- while conservatives still haven't given any of it any thought . The same way Antifa knows how to separate people so they can beat the crap out of a few - they do the same thing with guns .
They [commies] will make short quick attacks then disappear like a puff of vape smoke in strong wind .
Really? Where do they do this training and who organizes it? You seem to know a lot about an organization that doesn't even exist.
You are a dimocrap, which means you're full of crap. You think you're smart but you're bulb is dim.
Your words will prove you lied again. You need to quit listening to CNN.
The biggest mistake the "conservatives" can make, and I see it all the time, is to assume that the opposition is just a bunch of limp wrist snowflakes. Sure, a large portion of them are, but there are some dangerous folks among them as well. Why do you think Marxism spread like a disease in the last century? It wasn't because its believers were weak. They forced it, with extreme prejudice.
Exactly right ..
I read it here all the time WE HAVE GUNS - THEY DON'T --LAF -- if by chance gunfire level violence were to break out the right would loose because of the mindset I mentioned . Antifa types are likely training military style -street tactics- while conservatives still haven't given any of it any thought . The same way Antifa knows how to separate people so they can beat the crap out of a few - they do the same thing with guns .
They [commies] will make short quick attacks then disappear like a puff of vape smoke in strong wind .
Really? Where do they do this training and who organizes it? You seem to know a lot about an organization that doesn't even exist.
There are 4 or 5 LEFT leaning gun clubs in the USA, one located in Washington state where training is taking place. The left leaning gun club list has been posted on the campfire in the last month.....but of course you missed it.
To assume an adversary is soft is naive. Unfortunately the first time you may realize you are is a bad spot is when you get a skateboard to the face - how many here have taken inventory of the weapons used and added it to your situational awareness?
Someone may be soft, but outside of armed conflict a person can be digitally destroyed in todays world. How many of you protect your info or are tech savvy enough to not leave a trace?
This is not and has not been a conventional battlefield. Are you getting all your info from SIGINT or HUMINT? How do you know who you are talking to on the inter-webs, even here on the 'Fire? Where do you get your news? Who owns all the devices we use and controls what we see?
The war has been on for some time and the goal for the invaders is not to fire a shot. It's almost like when the British discovered that lining two armies up face to face was not the way to fight anymore...
The biggest mistake the "conservatives" can make, and I see it all the time, is to assume that the opposition is just a bunch of limp wrist snowflakes. Sure, a large portion of them are, but there are some dangerous folks among them as well. Why do you think Marxism spread like a disease in the last century? It wasn't because its believers were weak. They forced it, with extreme prejudice.
Exactly right ..
I read it here all the time WE HAVE GUNS - THEY DON'T --LAF -- if by chance gunfire level violence were to break out the right would loose because of the mindset I mentioned . Antifa types are likely training military style -street tactics- while conservatives still haven't given any of it any thought . The same way Antifa knows how to separate people so they can beat the crap out of a few - they do the same thing with guns .
They [commies] will make short quick attacks then disappear like a puff of vape smoke in strong wind .
Really? Where do they do this training and who organizes it? You seem to know a lot about an organization that doesn't even exist.
There are 4 or 5 LEFT leaning gun clubs in the USA, one located in Washington state where training is taking place. The left leaning gun club list has been posted on the campfire in the last month.....but of course you missed it.
Oh yeah, A GUN CLUB - oh MY GOD! I'm so SCARRED! Leftists that shoot!
There are what? Hundreds, or is it thousands of RIGHT leaning gun clubs in the USA too. Are we supposed to be terrified? I belong to a host of them.
You really do sound like what a liberal is supposed to sound like - scarred of Americans with guns. What a F'ing joke you are.
The biggest mistake the "conservatives" can make, and I see it all the time, is to assume that the opposition is just a bunch of limp wrist snowflakes. Sure, a large portion of them are, but there are some dangerous folks among them as well. Why do you think Marxism spread like a disease in the last century? It wasn't because its believers were weak. They forced it, with extreme prejudice.
well if things does not straighten up I see a civil war looming with blood flowing freely for which I hope nobody wants. It seems the people forgot on what this country was founded on. Plus since when does America worry about on who they offend I do not do not like the way I think and talk leave MAGA Make America Great Again Trump 2020
I think current events are changing enough people's minds that Trump will be re-elected. If that happens he will be able to appoint another Supreme Court justice. When that happens there will also be increased opposition from the left. Things will continue to escalate.
The only hope for a peaceful resolution lies in the court system and that depends on the appointment of constitutionalist judges like Justice Thomas not Justice Roberts. Trump has already appointed more federal judges than most presidents but needs to retain control of the Senate in order to continue.
Democrat elected officials have already shown they are willing to order law enforcement to stand down and let the mobs do as they please. When constitutionalists confront communists will they do the same? It would only take one instance of that and anarchy will prevail. The second civil war will have begun.
Overall I do not have much faith in the upcoming generations who have been indoctrinated since kindergarten by the educational system. They believe the constitution is an outdated document and communism/socialism are preferable, even though it has resulted in misery anywhere else it was tried, because they didn't do it right.
Unless we slide into a full on Civil war, we are pretty much cooked.
This right here. This country needs a permanent split. Republicans and Democrat Socialist/ communists or whatever they are cannot live with each other anymore. We need a permanent and final divorce... Too many irreconcilable differences...We been forcing this marriage to work for years and it isn't going to work...It either gets settled with violence or splitting the country in half.
It won't work that way Bub. Like Wisconsin, where the split is 50-50.
I never said it would be easy...A lot of states are like that with the 50-50 split...I'm saying we cannot live with them anymore and they cannot live with us anymore. There is too many fundamental differences to overcome, and we are forced to live together or leave the country... What happens in a marriage like that when both sides get to the point where they can't stand the other anymore but they have no way out financially? Nothing good. At some point, this country is going to implode and it is either going to lead to a lot of violence or a lot of diplomacy that fundamentally changes the country, probably both...There is no easy solution outside of one side just kicking the crap out of the other and making them bend to their will....
Yeah, well here's the thing. I have friends that I've known way longer than all this talk about shoot anybody you don't agree with.
Some of my friends lean Dem and some GOP, but both sides actions speak louder than words, and they mostly help what and when they can. So which side of my friends do I shoot?
... Some of my friends lean Dem and some GOP, but both sides actions speak louder than words, and they mostly help what and when they can. So which side of my friends do I shoot?
At some point in the future EVERYONE still alive in the U.S. is going to have to make a decision. It won't be easy. But, as Margaret Thatcher once said: "The problem with standing in the middle of the road is that you get knocked down by both sides..."
Not the economy or stock market per se. Just overall - will civility, peace, Law and Order be restored?
Whether before or after November.
Thoughts?
If Biden looses I suspect America will see protests unseen since the Vietnam War. If Trump looses there will be no protests, either way the gun and ammo shelves will be empty.
... Some of my friends lean Dem and some GOP, but both sides actions speak louder than words, and they mostly help what and when they can. So which side of my friends do I shoot?
At some point in the future EVERYONE still alive in the U.S. is going to have to make a decision. It won't be easy. But, as Margaret Thatcher once said: "The problem with standing in the middle of the road is that you get knocked down by both sides..."
... Some of my friends lean Dem and some GOP, but both sides actions speak louder than words, and they mostly help what and when they can. So which side of my friends do I shoot?
At some point in the future EVERYONE still alive in the U.S. is going to have to make a decision. It won't be easy. But, as Margaret Thatcher once said: "The problem with standing in the middle of the road is that you get knocked down by both sides..."
Shoot'em all, eh?
I've got no problem with that but then I don't have any Dem. friends and wouldn't. I know what they are, an enemy of mine and my Country and can't stand even being around them.
Not the economy or stock market per se. Just overall - will civility, peace, Law and Order be restored?
Whether before or after November.
Thoughts?
If Biden looses I suspect America will see protests unseen since the Vietnam War. If Trump looses there will be no protests, either way the gun and ammo shelves will be empty.
Such bullschiitt as usual. When Biden loses do to fraud by Trump, there will be much bashing of teeth and very minor protests. Just like last time.
... Some of my friends lean Dem and some GOP, but both sides actions speak louder than words, and they mostly help what and when they can. So which side of my friends do I shoot?
At some point in the future EVERYONE still alive in the U.S. is going to have to make a decision. It won't be easy. But, as Margaret Thatcher once said: "The problem with standing in the middle of the road is that you get knocked down by both sides..."
Shoot'em all, eh?
I've got no problem with that but then I don't have any Dem. friends and wouldn't. I know what they are, an enemy of mine and my Country and can't stand even being around them.
More fake tough guy talk from another anti-Constitution, America-hating, fascist traitor. Cheap talk.
... Some of my friends lean Dem and some GOP, but both sides actions speak louder than words, and they mostly help what and when they can. So which side of my friends do I shoot?
At some point in the future EVERYONE still alive in the U.S. is going to have to make a decision. It won't be easy. But, as Margaret Thatcher once said: "The problem with standing in the middle of the road is that you get knocked down by both sides..."
Shoot'em all, eh?
I've got no problem with that but then I don't have any Dem. friends and wouldn't. I know what they are, an enemy of mine and my Country and can't stand even being around them.
Perhaps first step could be going over to The Liberal Gun Club Forum and try so share some ideas with those from the opposing side. The worst that can happen is they will tell you fu, they will actually spell it out w/o resorting to key board tricks. You will be given a chance to express yourself first, and that is a start. This division is good for the two parties, but very bad for the country.
The citizens of America deserve comment. We've let a scourge divide us, we've let those in power consolidate it, the so-called conservatives will roll over when told they might get a virus.
This country is gone. Prepare now. It doesn't matter if Trump wins this fall, the barn door flung open 5 days ago and the horse is 4 counties away.
What I predict is that I will continue to go to Mass, I will continue to pray on my knees for the greatest country the world has ever seen and that she finds leaders that she deserves. I will vote my conscience in every election I am eligible for. I will also continue to lay in the methods necessary to protect me and mine to the best of my ability against all hazards foreign or domestic. Basically I'm gonna do what I can do. God bless the Republic, God Bless the United States of America.
Unless we slide into a full on Civil war, we are pretty much cooked.
This right here. This country needs a permanent split. Republicans and Democrat Socialist/ communists or whatever they are cannot live with each other anymore. We need a permanent and final divorce... Too many irreconcilable differences...We been forcing this marriage to work for years and it isn't going to work...It either gets settled with violence or splitting the country in half.
It won't work that way Bub. Like Wisconsin, where the split is 50-50.
I never said it would be easy...A lot of states are like that with the 50-50 split...I'm saying we cannot live with them anymore and they cannot live with us anymore. There is too many fundamental differences to overcome, and we are forced to live together or leave the country... What happens in a marriage like that when both sides get to the point where they can't stand the other anymore but they have no way out financially? Nothing good. At some point, this country is going to implode and it is either going to lead to a lot of violence or a lot of diplomacy that fundamentally changes the country, probably both...There is no easy solution outside of one side just kicking the crap out of the other and making them bend to their will....
Yeah, well here's the thing. I have friends that I've known way longer than all this talk about shoot anybody you don't agree with.
Some of my friends lean Dem and some GOP, but both sides actions speak louder than words, and they mostly help what and when they can. So which side of my friends do I shoot?
If we had a time machine, we could go back in time and ask our forefathers how they decided and felt about shooting at their cousins, brothers, people they grew up with, etc in the first Civil War in this country...Or, we could go back and ask the Jews how they would feel if they had the oppurtunity for a do over to fight their German Neighbors, acquaintances they trusted who put them and their children in concentration camps after Hitler brainwashed them into believing Jews were a cause for their problems.
I don't know how you decide, I guess you just eventually get pissed off enough about losing things you believe in like your freedom, your lifestyle, your finances, etc and seeing those folks on the other side happy enough to take those things away from you because of what they believe. That's when friends can turn into enemies...
We're not really to that point yet where we have to decide, but I'm saying if it keeps getting worse like it is every year eventually it will come to this. Maybe we will learn from history and turn the ship around before it gets really bad...
IMHO, if we do not win the next election, keep the Senate, and take the house, it may be all over. The Demons will totally destroy this country if they have the congress and the Presidency, they already have Roberts ready to apparently do their bidding. This country will cease to exist as a viable entity, and we will be forced to fight a guerilla war against them. It won't be pretty, and I think there are a lot of people in this country that will just sit back and watch. If I remember, the Revolutionary War was only fought and supported by about 10% of the population.
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