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Posted By: Tyrone Roberts Supports abortion - 06/29/20
He sided with Supreme Court Liberals in a 5-4 decision to strike down LA's strict abortion law.
Posted By: TrueGrit Re: Roberts Supports abortion - 06/29/20
I'm glad he did, 19 million black babies have been aborted since 1973 in the US of A. If it wasn't for abortion we'd be over run negros and the Republican party would of been abolished by 2000. Abortion isn't ideal but without we'd be screwed big time.
Posted By: Tyrone Re: Roberts Supports abortion - 06/29/20
I can see your view that abortion is a war strategy.
Posted By: TrueGrit Re: Roberts Supports abortion - 06/29/20
Abortion is a very tough issue. I'm pro - life, but also believe in the death penalty. Guess that makes me just another conservative a hypocrite.
Posted By: Morewood Re: Roberts Supports abortion - 06/29/20
Roberts is clearly under the liberal socialists control. He's being blackmailed for something he's done. There was a John Roberts on an Epstein pedo island passenger list. He's compromised and can't be trusted. Remember Obamacare? He was the deciding vote on that illegal mandate.
He was nominated by GW Bush.

He was never a real conservative judge. From the start.
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
He was nominated by GW Bush.

He was never a real conservative judge. From the start.




Incredible that as senators they voted not confirm him

Barack Obama
Hillary Clinton
Chuck Schumer
Dianne Feinstein
John Kerry
Harry Reid
Ted Kennedy
Posted By: BobMt Re: Roberts Supports abortion - 06/29/20
Originally Posted by TrueGrit
I'm glad he did, 19 million black babies have been aborted since 1973 in the US of A. If it wasn't for abortion we'd be over run negros and the Republican party would of been abolished by 2000. Abortion isn't ideal but without we'd be screwed big time.


i have said this time and again........bob
Posted By: IndyCA35 Re: Roberts Supports abortion - 06/29/20
Originally Posted by BobMt
Originally Posted by TrueGrit
I'm glad he did, 19 million black babies have been aborted since 1973 in the US of A. If it wasn't for abortion we'd be over run negros and the Republican party would of been abolished by 2000. Abortion isn't ideal but without we'd be screwed big time.


i have said this time and again........bob


Same here. And most of the white babies who were aborted would have been from the lowest strata of society, and grown up to be democrat voters too. Republicans, by and large, are smart enough to use birth control. Some exceptions but not many.
Posted By: Tarquin Re: Roberts Supports abortion - 06/29/20
Originally Posted by TrueGrit
Abortion is a very tough issue. I'm pro - life, but also believe in the death penalty. Guess that makes me just another conservative a hypocrite.



You don't see a difference between a premeditated murderer and an innocent full-term baby?
Ever heard the saying, life is a gift?
Posted By: Tarquin Re: Roberts Supports abortion - 06/29/20
The rap on Roberts from the Left when he as appointed was that because he was a devout Catholic he would likely vote to overturn Roe v. Wade. Apparently not.
Originally Posted by Morewood
Roberts is clearly under the liberal socialists control. He's being blackmailed for something he's done. There was a John Roberts on an Epstein pedo island passenger list. He's compromised and can't be trusted. Remember Obamacare? He was the deciding vote on that illegal mandate.


Yep
Posted By: Squidge Re: Roberts Supports abortion - 06/29/20
What role did stari decisis play in Robert's vote?

https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/stare_decisis
Posted By: natman Re: Roberts Supports abortion - 06/29/20
The promising thing to come out of this is Robert's explanation for his vote was that he wanted to honor stare decisis, the principle that the result in a previous similar case holds.

Roberts also stated: “The legal doctrine of stare decisis requires us, absent special circumstances, to treat like cases alike.


This will be a good thing the next time Heller is challenged.

https://www.law.com/nationallawjour...tion-clinic-law/?slreturn=20200529124742
Posted By: antlers Re: Roberts Supports abortion - 06/29/20
‘Principled Republican Conservatives’, but OK with abortion. ‘The Party of Values and Ethics’, but OK with abortion. ‘Pro Life’, but OK with abortion.

laffin’
After 50 years of the "ethical, moral" position of pro life...I flipped to the other side of the fence after the 2008 election. In 8 short years I saw race relations deteriorate to a place as bad as the 1960's. And it was bad in the 60's, the Army, supposedly the most level playing field at the time, was horrible. Constant tension, with both races keeping entrenching tools close at hand, going to the showers in groups, separate seating in the mess halls. After all that has been done, the Great Society, preference hiring, biased college admissions...none of it worked, or ever will work. Inner city drug gang violence is escalating into truly tribal savagery. To hell with it, give 'em what they want, money, drugs, food, abortions, reduced sentences, reduced policing, let it all play out. I just wish there was a way I didn't have to pay for it

If people really wanted to over turn Roe v Wade, they would put something forward that did it. Stop trying to take slices.

this was struck down, not over abortion, but over the inability to show it was actually needed, tieing abortion to admitting privs at a local hospital had NOTHING to do with abortion, and more to do with putting restrictions on something and if those restrictions are reasonable.

It should be simple, pass a law, at the state level, that says "abortions are illegal". Let it run from there.
Posted By: hanco Re: Roberts Supports abortion - 06/29/20
Got rid of lots of black babies!
Originally Posted by IndyCA35
Originally Posted by BobMt
Originally Posted by TrueGrit
I'm glad he did, 19 million black babies have been aborted since 1973 in the US of A. If it wasn't for abortion we'd be over run negros and the Republican party would of been abolished by 2000. Abortion isn't ideal but without we'd be screwed big time.


i have said this time and again........bob


Same here. And most of the white babies who were aborted would have been from the lowest strata of society, and grown up to be democrat voters too. Republicans, by and large, are smart enough to use birth control. Some exceptions but not many.
It's mostly white city kids that are raised by and grow up to be Democrats. White country kids, rich or poor, are generally raised by and grow up to be Republicans. City people in general are just socialist scum.
Posted By: hanco Re: Roberts Supports abortion - 06/29/20
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Oh my!

Hahaha!


That aint right!
Originally Posted by hanco
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Celine Dion had a black baby?.... laugh
Very few of my inner-city students, white or black, understood what I meant when I referred to them as "Planned Parenthood Poster Children"!
Posted By: hanco Re: Roberts Supports abortion - 06/29/20
Originally Posted by GreatWaputi
Originally Posted by hanco
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Celine Dion had a black baby?.... laugh



It does look like her.
Posted By: Fubarski Re: Roberts Supports abortion - 06/29/20
Roberts is a POS traitor.

In the 2016 case, he dissented from the majority opinion on the exact same issue.

He hid behind the liberal 5-3 majority.

Now that his vote would have made the difference, he hid behind a bullshit legal principle.

Can't figure out if he's a liberal or bought, but it's one of the two.
Posted By: 45_100 Re: Roberts Supports abortion - 06/30/20
The Supreme Court has become as political as any other branch of government. They are refusing to take on controversial issues regarding the First and Second Ammendments, immigration and other issues that are not constitutional. Clarence Thomas is the only truly constitutionalist Supreme Court Justice and he is getting tired of this stuff.
Posted By: Slavek Re: Roberts Supports abortion - 06/30/20
Originally Posted by Tyrone
He sided with Supreme Court Liberals in a 5-4 decision to strike down LA's strict abortion law.


There is no shame in not wanting to financially support raising someone else's kids.
Originally Posted by TrueGrit
Abortion is a very tough issue. I'm pro - life, but also believe in the death penalty. Guess that makes me just another conservative a hypocrite.

You're not a hypocrite at all. One committed a crime and is receiving a punishment. The other committed no crime and is being murdered. Big difference.
Originally Posted by TrueGrit
I'm glad he did, 19 million black babies have been aborted since 1973 in the US of A. If it wasn't for abortion we'd be over run negros and the Republican party would of been abolished by 2000. Abortion isn't ideal but without we'd be screwed big time.

Abortion is just WRONG, on so many levels - doesn't matter WHO gives up a life!!!!!!! - Or who takes it !!!!!!!
Posted By: Slope77 Re: Roberts Supports abortion - 06/30/20
Would the Israelites have stopped the Philistines from killing their own children? To what extent are you responsible to protect your enemy from themselves? It is wrong and they know it is wrong. They have been counseled to depravity of their action.
I think Roberts enjoys the limelight as being the swing vote now that Kennedy is gone. Sort of attention seeking behavior.
Posted By: Snyper Re: Roberts Supports abortion - 06/30/20
Originally Posted by mark shubert
Originally Posted by TrueGrit
I'm glad he did, 19 million black babies have been aborted since 1973 in the US of A. If it wasn't for abortion we'd be over run negros and the Republican party would of been abolished by 2000. Abortion isn't ideal but without we'd be screwed big time.

Abortion is just WRONG, on so many levels - doesn't matter WHO gives up a life!!!!!!! - Or who takes it !!!!!!!

You're entitled to that opinion, but the majority want abortions to remain legal.

People love to bitch and moan about the Govt "not following the laws", then turn around and bitch when they do follow the laws.

You can't force your morality on others any more than they can force theirs on you.

Life is much easier once you accept that fact and stop trying to control anyone aside from yourself.
Posted By: JamesJr Re: Roberts Supports abortion - 06/30/20
I'm very much pro-life, but it's not Robert's vote on abortion that worries me, it's his continuous siding with the liberal judges on votes. This is we really need to get at least one more Conservative judge on the SCOTUS.
Posted By: HawkI Re: Roberts Supports abortion - 06/30/20
Originally Posted by Snyper
Originally Posted by mark shubert
Originally Posted by TrueGrit
I'm glad he did, 19 million black babies have been aborted since 1973 in the US of A. If it wasn't for abortion we'd be over run negros and the Republican party would of been abolished by 2000. Abortion isn't ideal but without we'd be screwed big time.

Abortion is just WRONG, on so many levels - doesn't matter WHO gives up a life!!!!!!! - Or who takes it !!!!!!!

You're entitled to that opinion, but the majority want abortions to remain legal.

People love to bitch and moan about the Govt "not following the laws", then turn around and bitch when they do follow the laws.

You can't force your morality on others any more than they can force theirs on you.

Life is much easier once you accept that fact and stop trying to control anyone aside from yourself.



Laws are morality, dumbass...
Originally Posted by HawkI
Originally Posted by Snyper
Originally Posted by mark shubert
Originally Posted by TrueGrit
I'm glad he did, 19 million black babies have been aborted since 1973 in the US of A. If it wasn't for abortion we'd be over run negros and the Republican party would of been abolished by 2000. Abortion isn't ideal but without we'd be screwed big time.

Abortion is just WRONG, on so many levels - doesn't matter WHO gives up a life!!!!!!! - Or who takes it !!!!!!!

You're entitled to that opinion, but the majority want abortions to remain legal.

People love to bitch and moan about the Govt "not following the laws", then turn around and bitch when they do follow the laws.

You can't force your morality on others any more than they can force theirs on you.

Life is much easier once you accept that fact and stop trying to control anyone aside from yourself.



Laws are morality, dumbass...


And when laws diverge from morality is when the trouble starts.
Posted By: wabigoon Re: Roberts Supports abortion - 06/30/20
Roberts is a disappointment.
Roberts is owned, heart and soul, by someone. Video of him with a live boy or dead girl or some such. He is their trained monkey.

As for abortion itself, it is easy to argue that it is morally wrong, what with the killing of an innocent. And in a NW euro monoculture, it ought to be outlawed and can be outlawed, thus aligning law with morality. In a degenerate multiethnic empire like the USA, outlawing abortion is not possible. The unity of opinion or moral code does not exist and the ruling class is too far gone in its degeneracy and alienation from those they rule.

Romans 1:24-32 has several applications, one of which is to the black community and their propensity for impulsive violence and sexual congress. And, of course, to the homosexual community. And last, to the USA as a polity, where the old NW Euro ruling class allowed aliens to co-opt the machinery of power.

Originally Posted by Roamns_Ch_01

24Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

25Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

26For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

27And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

28And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

29Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,

30Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

31Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:

32Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
Posted By: Jim1611 Re: Roberts Supports abortion - 06/30/20
I grew up poor as any black kid, I am 59 years old and still have no idea who my dad was, my family was on welfare, my mom was a drug addict and stepdad a drunk. I've never been in prison and respect other people's property and life. According to what I hear and read my life should have been ended before being born. By the way I love God and America.

So convince me that abortion is okay for even these black babies born in the ghetto. I want to see the "moral" side of deciding what baby lives and which ones die. I made my choice when I was a kid that by working and staying out of trouble I would not live as I grew up. Abortion takes that choice away from me and millions of others.

I hope Trump gets elected and is able to appoint a justice that will side with life.
Quote
I want to see the "moral" side of deciding what baby lives and which ones die.


here,here


https://www.lifenews.com/2020/06/29...d-of-support-from-the-constitutions-text
Posted By: antlers Re: Roberts Supports abortion - 06/30/20
In Romans 1:24-32 (the cherry-picked verses above), Paul is describing ALL human unrighteousness as a progression...telling how rejecting God leads to ever greater rejections of Him.
Signaling out blacks, and applying parts of that passage specifically to them is disingenuous...but not at all surprising for some Bible thumpers.
Some people...even some self professed ‘Christians’...actually use the Bible to diminish others...and to have bigotry towards others. The absurdity of using the Bible to look down upon others...others that God loves...is hypocrisy to the Nth degree.
Posted By: antlers Re: Roberts Supports abortion - 06/30/20
Originally Posted by Jim1611
...convince me that abortion is okay for even these black babies born in the ghetto. I want to see the "moral" side of deciding what baby lives and which ones die. I made my choice when I was a kid that by working and staying out of trouble I would not live as I grew up. Abortion takes that choice away from me and millions of others.
When it comes to selling themselves on bad ideas, bad decisions, and sometimes on something that is just flat out wrong...many, even those who give lip service to ‘values and ethics’, become expert professional salespeople. They may not be able to sell anybody else anything, but they’re fantastic at selling themselves on something that is the very epitome of wrong.
Posted By: Slope77 Re: Roberts Supports abortion - 06/30/20
Originally Posted by antlers
Originally Posted by Jim1611
...convince me that abortion is okay for even these black babies born in the ghetto. I want to see the "moral" side of deciding what baby lives and which ones die. I made my choice when I was a kid that by working and staying out of trouble I would not live as I grew up. Abortion takes that choice away from me and millions of others.
When it comes to selling themselves on bad ideas, bad decisions, and sometimes on something that is just flat out wrong...many, even those who give lip service to ‘values and ethics’, become expert professional salespeople. They may not be able to sell anybody else anything, but they’re fantastic at selling themselves on something that is the very epitome of wrong.


I agree that abortion is an abomination. It is horrible. I don’t think it is “ok” because it is black babies. However, looking at the demographics and politics of the country, how precarious the balance is between good and evil, I have come to the point that I don’t oppose abortion simply because most of the people who support and use it are a danger to my values and way of life. If the degenerates want to kill their own, I find some comfort in the fact that there will be less of them than there otherwise would be.

That doesn’t mean I agree with it.

Specifically, to the black babies, I wonder how many of the people set against abortion are willing to go out and adopt one of the millions more there will be, and to provide them with a safe, loving home. Or to see their tax bill increase to support them and their mothers. That is often a disconnect I see with those who are anti-abortion.

It is very difficult to legislate morality and self control. People are going to live like they want to live and do what they want to do. To expect that there is going to be some great epiphany in parts of our population, that they will suddenly see the light and live according to what we or God believe is righteous, is completely unrealistic.

The best thing is to prevent the pregnancy in the first place, which is why I have never understood the resistance to mandatory insurance coverage for contraceptives. There are places birth control pills should be handed out like candy.
Posted By: antlers Re: Roberts Supports abortion - 06/30/20
Jesus’ use of the word “lukewarm” comes to mind.
Posted By: Slope77 Re: Roberts Supports abortion - 06/30/20
Originally Posted by antlers
Jesus’ use of the word “lukewarm” comes to mind.


You may have a point. I still struggle with it.
Posted By: keith Re: Roberts Supports abortion - 06/30/20
I don't agree with abortion. I have seen unwanted babies destroy a LOT of grand parents marriages...bankruptcies.

Free birth control pills or at least very inexpensive pills should be available.
Posted By: jmdriver Re: Roberts Supports abortion - 06/30/20
Originally Posted by IndyCA35
Originally Posted by BobMt
Originally Posted by TrueGrit
I'm glad he did, 19 million black babies have been aborted since 1973 in the US of A. If it wasn't for abortion we'd be over run negros and the Republican party would of been abolished by 2000. Abortion isn't ideal but without we'd be screwed big time.


i have said this time and again........bob


Same here. And most of the white babies who were aborted would have been from the lowest strata of society, and grown up to be democrat voters too. Republicans, by and large, are smart enough to use birth control. Some exceptions but not many.


AMEN
Posted By: Old_Toot Re: Roberts Supports abortion - 06/30/20
Originally Posted by jmdriver
Originally Posted by IndyCA35
Originally Posted by BobMt
Originally Posted by TrueGrit
I'm glad he did, 19 million black babies have been aborted since 1973 in the US of A. If it wasn't for abortion we'd be over run negros and the Republican party would of been abolished by 2000. Abortion isn't ideal but without we'd be screwed big time.


i have said this time and again........bob


Same here. And most of the white babies who were aborted would have been from the lowest strata of society, and grown up to be democrat voters too. Republicans, by and large, are smart enough to use birth control. Some exceptions but not many.


AMEN



I don’t know, Boys.

The heat of the moment has always trumped common sense.

No exceptions and Always.
Posted By: jimy Re: Roberts Supports abortion - 06/30/20
I have said for years, that we would save billions of dollars by paying people to have their tubes tied or their nuts snipped, pay women 10 grand and men 5 grand after the procedures.

Morally people would be better off, and the money saved on welfare and prisons would more than pay for these programs.
Originally Posted by Jim1611
I grew up poor as any black kid, I am 59 years old and still have no idea who my dad was, my family was on welfare, my mom was a drug addict and stepdad a drunk. I've never been in prison and respect other people's property and life. According to what I hear and read my life should have been ended before being born. By the way I love God and America.

So convince me that abortion is okay for even these black babies born in the ghetto. I want to see the "moral" side of deciding what baby lives and which ones die. I made my choice when I was a kid that by working and staying out of trouble I would not live as I grew up. Abortion takes that choice away from me and millions of others.

I hope Trump gets elected and is able to appoint a justice that will side with life.





Jim, I agree with you. There are soooo many decent couples and families out there who would love nothing more than to adapt any baby.
Posted By: K22 Re: Roberts Supports abortion - 07/01/20
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
He was nominated by GW Bush.

He was never a real conservative judge. From the start.




Very true!
Posted By: K22 Re: Roberts Supports abortion - 07/01/20
Originally Posted by watch4bear
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
He was nominated by GW Bush.

He was never a real conservative judge. From the start.




Incredible that as senators they voted not confirm him

Barack Obama
Hillary Clinton
Chuck Schumer
Dianne Feinstein
John Kerry
Harry Reid
Ted Kennedy



Nothing more than optics.
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