My son is graduating from Alabama next spring and is enamored with the thought of moving to Boise. He is hoping to find a decent job in sales (His major). For those familiar with the Boise area, what things should he know when considering working and living in the Boise area? He hopes to do some bow hunting as well in the hunting seasons.
What say you?
Our daughter lives there. Trucking broker. It's changing fast.
Our daughter lives there. Trucking broker. It's changing fast.
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It’s definitely changing fast. I can’t believe how big the Boise/Metro area has become. Housing is still damn reasonable, although maybe when you compare it to 10 or 20 years ago. Still a beautiful place with good people. There’s far worse places to live than Boise. I’d go for it. He’s young and should follow his sense of adventure. Whatever he decides to do I wish him the best of luck.
I'd think of Pocatello or Idaho Falls first, then Boise.
Boise Mayor is a leftist nut
Expect to pay California real estate prices.
Housing's going nuts there. Many are buying in the small towns as far away as 50 miles. The commute isn't fun as I-84 is about the only choice and getting from Nampa to Boise can be a nightmare.
I'd think of Pocatello or Idaho Falls first, then Boise.
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Boise is the big city....
20 years too late. Not much he can do about that but it's far from the place it used to be.
I've lived here for 20+ years. It is still an awesome place to live and raise a family. Expect to pay $300,000+ for even a modest home honestly. My place is only 1,200' and appraises for $325,000...and it ain't exactly fancy.
It has grown tremendously, and the out-of-state importation of liberals has had a notable impact for sure. Having said that, it's still a hard-right leaning place to live all things considered.
Having said all that, I'd lean towards Idaho Falls were I in your boy's shoes honestly. More conservative, better hunting and fishing, less crowded, and cheaper real estate.
Dave
My son is graduating from Alabama next spring and is enamored with the thought of moving to Boise. He is hoping to find a decent job in sales (His major). For those familiar with the Boise area, what things should he know when considering working and living in the Boise area? He hopes to do some bow hunting as well in the hunting seasons.
What say you?
Conversion to LDS is an asset to salespeople in that AO as there seems to be a direct line from Boise to SLC.
a few negatives about Boise :
1- worst drivers in the US ( google it )
2- they are obsessed with lawn care , sound of lawn mowers all day
3- flies and other insects because of #2
the positives are many and already mentioned.
I would rather see someone from Alabama come to Idaho than another Californian.
Even as far from the city as we are here in central Idaho there are more and more Californians showing up. Some of them aren't bad people but they all seem to bring their California attitude of - "that's not the way we did it in California" and start to try to change things to be like where they left.
drover
My son is graduating from Alabama next spring and is enamored with the thought of moving to Boise. He is hoping to find a decent job in sales (His major). For those familiar with the Boise area, what things should he know when considering working and living in the Boise area? He hopes to do some bow hunting as well in the hunting seasons.
What say you?
Tell him to learn how to use a long range rifle. More game is killed around here at 400 yds than 40.
I just left Boise in april. It's not the same Boise it was 20 years ago. The Idaho Falls area is nice.
Have him spend a week in Portland first.
That is Boise within 15-20 years, based on the incoming demographics.
I left Boise 30 years ago after growing up in Nampa.
I go back every 3-5 years to see family. They can keep it.
I graduated from Boise State. The place has really changed.
And none of it for the better! Unless you are a building contractor.
:I remember traveling from Caldwell to Nampa on Hiway 30 circa 1960. My Dad used to look out at the farm fields and tell us about the days when it was all sagebrush.
I drive the same road today with my grandkids. We look out at the apartment complexes and businesses. I tell the kids, "I remember when this was all alfalfa fields or pastures full of dairy cows."
I remember the first time I rode into Boise in 1962. The sign read Population 35,000. Census records say the entire state had about 600,000 in 1960.
Today the population of Ada Co is 482,000 with Canyon Co at another 230,000.
With growth at these levels, housing is scarce and expensive. The median household income in Canyon Co is $49,000 with per capital listed at $18,000 and 11.5% below the poverty line. So,I don't really know who is buying those $350K homes. But someone is.
a few negatives about Boise :
1- worst drivers in the US ( google it )
2- they are obsessed with lawn care , sound of lawn mowers all day
3- flies and other insects because of #2
the positives are many and already mentioned.
That made me curious so I did google it. A US News article using statistics from Allstate shows:
The 10 Cities With the Worst Drivers
Oakland, California
Alexandria, Virginia
Providence, Rhode Island
Springfield, Massachusetts
Los Angeles, California
Glendale, California
Worcester, Massachusetts
Boston, Massachusetts
Washington, D.C.
Baltimore, Maryland
Looks like Massachusetts and California are the big winners.
Ooohhhh, I get it. Boise has all the Californians now, so...
If I start hearing people say "khakis" when they're looking to start the car, I'm outta here...
I'd think of Pocatello or Idaho Falls first, then Boise.
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Boise is the big city....
NO, NO, NO! Those are schit hole places to live. Stay away from there at all costs.
My son is graduating from Alabama next spring and is enamored with the thought of moving to Boise. He is hoping to find a decent job in sales (His major). For those familiar with the Boise area, what things should he know when considering working and living in the Boise area? He hopes to do some bow hunting as well in the hunting seasons.
What say you?
Conversion to LDS is an asset to salespeople in that AO as there seems to be a direct line from Boise to SLC.
If you think there's a large LDS connection in Boise, you ought to see Idaho Falls. On a per capita basis there's more LDS in I.F. than Salt lake.
For a young person wanting to start a career in the metropolitan West, I doubt Boise can be beat. Compared to many Western towns, housing is still not too bad.
Can a kid who is a conservative Christian (not obnoxious or legalistic), who has no interest in joining LDS, develope a successful career in a place like Boise / Idaho Falls?
If I was moving West , I’d look at Montana. I’m not moving however. I was born in God’s Country thank the Lord. Been workin’ since I was 15 , graduated from college , and have been fortunate enough to carve out a nice piece of the American Dream . Things were not always easy and still aren’t. Actually things are harder in some ways now. That’s just life. I will damn sure fight for the country when the time is right. Like my granddaddy said, the country is not perfect, but the BEST country in the world. Go USA ! Commies kiss my butt!
For a young person wanting to start a career in the metropolitan West, I doubt Boise can be beat. Compared to many Western towns, housing is still not too bad.
Boise is no longer a "town" in the minds of many.
As for housing not being "too bad", well, that kinda depends on where one is from. $325K appraisal for a 1200sf house isn't good to some. Maybe the young fella comes from a place where that figure would be considered below average. Or maybe he comes from a place where $325K buys a lot more house and some land.
As you say though, from what friends have told me, there are opportunities there.
Can a kid who is a conservative Christian (not obnoxious or legalistic), who has no interest in joining LDS, develope a successful career in a place like Boise / Idaho Falls?
Absolutely!
The LDS issue in the Boise area is greatly exaggerated.
There are far more non-LDS church goers. They may well come-a-knocking, but are easy to get rid of.
Essentially a non issue.
Idaho Falls is a bit more intense.
The truth of the matter is, no place is static. Population of the US has gone up and they need a place to live. I frankly wouldn't live in Boise proper, but there are at least 7 cities to choose from if you don't want to live there. I looked at Montana as well, and that place is ridiculously spendy in most cities. It's being over run by Californians. Couldn't do it.
The wife asks from time to time if I'm happy here, and I can flatly tell you, I can't think of anywhere else I'd rather live. Do I like the growth? NO. But I don't want to live somewhere that's dying.
Crime rate is half the national average. Favorable gun laws, hunting, fishing.
Billings.
It also starts with a B.
It is a city.....and is not Boise.
I miss the Boise valley a great deal and had planned to return when I retired (4 years ago). It has gotten so big, so fast, and still growing at a mind bending pace that there's no way in hell I'd ever go back.
Housing is getting downright expensive and property taxes are becoming outrageous.
I read an article a couple of months ago that the powers that be anticipate there will be 3-4 million people in the Boise-Caldwell area by 2030. Currently there are about 800 thousand there.
Most seem to be bringing their liberal/socialist/communist ideologies with them.
No thanks..not for me at any price.
I miss the Boise valley a great deal and had planned to return when I retired (4 years ago). It has gotten so big, so fast, and still growing at a mind bending pace that there's no way in hell I'd ever go back.
Housing is getting downright expensive and property taxes are becoming outrageous.
I read an article a couple of months ago that the powers that be anticipate there will be 3-4 million people in the Boise-Caldwell area by 2030. Currently there are about 800 thousand there.
Most seem to be bringing their liberal/socialist/communist ideologies with them.
No thanks..not for me at any price.
Did I mention Boise is changing? Gay pride parade anyone?
My son is graduating from Alabama next spring and is enamored with the thought of moving to Boise. He is hoping to find a decent job in sales (His major). For those familiar with the Boise area, what things should he know when considering working and living in the Boise area? He hopes to do some bow hunting as well in the hunting seasons.
What say you?
Tell him to learn how to use a long range rifle. More game is killed around here at 400 yds than 40.
Or he could simply learn to hunt....😁
My son is graduating from Alabama next spring and is enamored with the thought of moving to Boise. He is hoping to find a decent job in sales (His major). For those familiar with the Boise area, what things should he know when considering working and living in the Boise area? He hopes to do some bow hunting as well in the hunting seasons.
What say you?
Tell him to learn how to use a long range rifle. More game is killed around here at 400 yds than 40.
Or he could simply learn to hunt....😁
Ouch.
The truth of the matter is, no place is static. Population of the US has gone up and they need a place to live. I frankly wouldn't live in Boise proper, but there are at least 7 cities to choose from if you don't want to live there. I looked at Montana as well, and that place is ridiculously spendy in most cities. It's being over run by Californians. Couldn't do it.
The wife asks from time to time if I'm happy here, and I can flatly tell you, I can't think of anywhere else I'd rather live. Do I like the growth? NO. But I don't want to live somewhere that's dying.
Crime rate is half the national average. Favorable gun laws, hunting, fishing.
Thanks for the validation. He has researched several places out west to live and Idaho seems to check a lot of boxes.
I've lived in Boise a few times. Last time was 2003. I loved it there, people were great and parks run all the way through the city. Its changed a lot since then. I can't believe the leftist agenda of the current mayor. And housing has gone through the roof.
Even eastern idaho is getting a lot of Californians now. New neighbors from California already complaining about fireworks being lit a week before the forth, sprinklers getting the road wet, neighbors not having their yard in after a year. Already trying to push regulation through HOAs and the county. Natives are pretty easy going but the newbies from California are always complaining about something. Lots of uptight attitude about how things should be done.
Bb
I miss the Boise valley a great deal and had planned to return when I retired (4 years ago). It has gotten so big, so fast, and still growing at a mind bending pace that there's no way in hell I'd ever go back.
Housing is getting downright expensive and property taxes are becoming outrageous.
I read an article a couple of months ago that the powers that be anticipate there will be 3-4 million people in the Boise-Caldwell area by 2030. Currently there are about 800 thousand there.
Most seem to be bringing their liberal/socialist/communist ideologies with them.
No thanks..not for me at any price.
Did I mention Boise is changing? Gay pride parade anyone?
Was that you that said that? Da g I knew I read that somewhere .🙄
Can a kid who is a conservative Christian (not obnoxious or legalistic), who has no interest in joining LDS, develope a successful career in a place like Boise / Idaho Falls?
In Boise absolutely.
I was born and raised in Boise and left it at 18...Boise has really changed to those that new it years ago but,it is far better than say Spokane imho..I lived in Idaho Falls for a short time and did not care for the high desert region..I would rather see guys like the op or his son move to Boise than from California...There is still some good hunting/fishing an outdoor stuff really close to Boise..Boise is changing but what western city isn't...
Not a bad choice for the ops son in my opinion..There are far worse places to live..Did I mention Spokane...LOL
I've lived in Boise a few times. Last time was 2003. I loved it there, people were great and parks run all the way through the city. Its changed a lot since then. I can't believe the leftist agenda of the current mayor. And housing has gone through the roof.
Even eastern idaho is getting a lot of Californians now. New neighbors from California already complaining about fireworks being lit a week before the forth, sprinklers getting the road wet, neighbors not having their yard in after a year. Already trying to push regulation through HOAs and the county. Natives are pretty easy going but the newbies from California are always complaining about something. Lots of uptight attitude about how things should be done.
Bb
Sounds typical.
My next door neighbor is Cali transplant and he was not here a week when he started running his mouth. It has never stopped. Nothing is satisfactory for that guy compared to where he came from, but if you ask him, he loves it here and would never go back..
a few negatives about Boise :
1- worst drivers in the US ( google it )
2- they are obsessed with lawn care , sound of lawn mowers all day
3- flies and other insects because of #2
the positives are many and already mentioned.
That made me curious so I did google it. A US News article using statistics from Allstate shows:
The 10 Cities With the Worst Drivers
Oakland, California
Alexandria, Virginia
Providence, Rhode Island
Springfield, Massachusetts
Los Angeles, California
Glendale, California
Worcester, Massachusetts
Boston, Massachusetts
Washington, D.C.
Baltimore, Maryland
If I start hearing people say "khakis" when they're looking to start the car, I'm outta here...
BOISE, Idaho (CBS 2) — Boise drivers apparently need to head back to driver's training.
Or at least slowdown and pay attention.
According to QuoteWizard.com, Boise drivers are the second-worst in the county out of 75 major cities.
The City of Trees was in a respectable (we think?) 27th position last year but made the unfortunate leap in 2019.
Sounds typical.
My next door neighbor is Cali transplant and he was not here a week when he started running his mouth. It has never stopped. Nothing is satisfactory for that guy compared to where he came from, but if you ask him, he loves it here and would never go back..
That happens so often here I started telling them Hey if you have so many fond memories of California you should have stayed there. You're in Oregon now, you need to learn to be an Oregonian.
Sounds typical.
My next door neighbor is Cali transplant and he was not here a week when he started running his mouth. It has never stopped. Nothing is satisfactory for that guy compared to where he came from, but if you ask him, he loves it here and would never go back..
That happens so often here I started telling them Hey if you have so many fond memories of California you should have stayed there. You're in Oregon now, you need to learn to be an Oregonian.
Californians often don't do well away from California. Apart from the politics, living there is easy/convenient. Many are lured away, selling their homes at tremendous profit and moving to more "affordable" places (like Montana), only to find after a couple of winters they wish they'd never left. But if they want to move back they've lost their old (low) real estate tax basis and are now financially locked out of returning. Obviously with substantial income/wealth it's not an issue, but for most it is.
Personally, I like a lot of the Californians here in Montana. If you can last five winters here you might belong here. They bring a bit of interest/difference to what would be a more "monotone" culture. People are just people, and I take them how I find them. Painting with a broad brush is always a mistake when it comes to fellow humans.
Sounds typical.
My next door neighbor is Cali transplant and he was not here a week when he started running his mouth. It has never stopped. Nothing is satisfactory for that guy compared to where he came from, but if you ask him, he loves it here and would never go back..
That happens so often here I started telling them Hey if you have so many fond memories of California you should have stayed there. You're in Oregon now, you need to learn to be an Oregonian.
Californians often don't do well away from California. Apart from the politics, living there is easy/convenient. Many are lured away, selling their homes at tremendous profit and moving to more "affordable" places (like Montana), only to find after a couple of winters they wish they'd never left. But if they want to move back they've lost their old (low) real estate tax basis and are now financially locked out of returning. Obviously with substantial income/wealth it's not an issue, but for most it is.
Personally, I like a lot of the Californians here in Montana. If you can last five winters here you might belong here. They bring a bit of interest/difference to what would be a more "monotone" culture. People are just people, and I take them how I find them. Painting with a broad brush is always a mistake when it comes to fellow humans.
That "take people as they are" attitude is why I ended up in Idaho. It certainly is still there in East Idaho (and I do just fine behind the Zion Curtain). Not sure is Boise still has that Idaho culture though. I don't really believe it is compatible with big city living.
Californians can't seem to "leave it" there. They won't shut up about it. If I wanted to know all about California I'd go there.
I never go there.
Sounds typical.
My next door neighbor is Cali transplant and he was not here a week when he started running his mouth. It has never stopped. Nothing is satisfactory for that guy compared to where he came from, but if you ask him, he loves it here and would never go back..
That happens so often here I started telling them Hey if you have so many fond memories of California you should have stayed there. You're in Oregon now, you need to learn to be an Oregonian.
Californians often don't do well away from California. Apart from the politics, living there is easy/convenient. Many are lured away, selling their homes at tremendous profit and moving to more "affordable" places (like Montana), only to find after a couple of winters they wish they'd never left. But if they want to move back they've lost their old (low) real estate tax basis and are now financially locked out of returning. Obviously with substantial income/wealth it's not an issue, but for most it is.
Personally, I like a lot of the Californians here in Montana. If you can last five winters here you might belong here. They bring a bit of interest/difference to what would be a more "monotone" culture. People are just people, and I take them how I find them. Painting with a broad brush is always a mistake when it comes to fellow humans.
Admit it Brad, you like building them expensive homes....... a little biased maybe?
Sounds typical.
My next door neighbor is Cali transplant and he was not here a week when he started running his mouth. It has never stopped. Nothing is satisfactory for that guy compared to where he came from, but if you ask him, he loves it here and would never go back..
That happens so often here I started telling them Hey if you have so many fond memories of California you should have stayed there. You're in Oregon now, you need to learn to be an Oregonian.
Californians often don't do well away from California. Apart from the politics, living there is easy/convenient. Many are lured away, selling their homes at tremendous profit and moving to more "affordable" places (like Montana), only to find after a couple of winters they wish they'd never left. But if they want to move back they've lost their old (low) real estate tax basis and are now financially locked out of returning. Obviously with substantial income/wealth it's not an issue, but for most it is.
Personally, I like a lot of the Californians here in Montana. If you can last five winters here you might belong here. They bring a bit of interest/difference to what would be a more "monotone" culture. People are just people, and I take them how I find them. Painting with a broad brush is always a mistake when it comes to fellow humans.
Admit it Brad, you like building them expensive homes....... a little biased maybe?
I do like building quality homes, but I can't see how anything I've written has anything to do with that. Especially given I've yet to build a home for a Californian.
I take people as I find them...
housing is still not too bad
a 80 grand house now sells for 500 grand in just a couple days --most are low end sub division
made a offer on a home last week for 840 two days later seller cancelled the sale
realtor said they got a million dollar offer
anything cheap in alabama
Sounds typical.
My next door neighbor is Cali transplant and he was not here a week when he started running his mouth. It has never stopped. Nothing is satisfactory for that guy compared to where he came from, but if you ask him, he loves it here and would never go back..
That happens so often here I started telling them Hey if you have so many fond memories of California you should have stayed there. You're in Oregon now, you need to learn to be an Oregonian.
Californians often don't do well away from California. Apart from the politics, living there is easy/convenient. Many are lured away, selling their homes at tremendous profit and moving to more "affordable" places (like Montana), only to find after a couple of winters they wish they'd never left. But if they want to move back they've lost their old (low) real estate tax basis and are now financially locked out of returning. Obviously with substantial income/wealth it's not an issue, but for most it is.
Personally, I like a lot of the Californians here in Montana. If you can last five winters here you might belong here. They bring a bit of interest/difference to what would be a more "monotone" culture. People are just people, and I take them how I find them. Painting with a broad brush is always a mistake when it comes to fellow humans.
Admit it Brad, you like building them expensive homes....... a little biased maybe?
I do like building quality homes, but I can't see how anything I've written has anything to do with that. Especially given I've yet to build a home for a Californian.
I take people as I find them...
I wasn't questioning your assertion regarding many Californians regretting moving to Mt. for the reasons you cited.....
I was addressing the fact you had no problem with the west coast immigrants.....
You could have agreed with me that you enjoy a good career making money off the movement..... a position that many would understand considering the difficulty of making a good wage in Mt.
But you apparently chose to accept and even like the culture ( I.E. diversity) the Californians bring..... so do you share their ideology?
Have you been paying attention to current events? do you want that in Montana? hmmmmmm
And yes I know there are many fine conservative from Calif. but they are a very small minority.... I have several Calif. transplants in my immediate neighborhood and they think they are conservative. They are anything but !
Me and my neighbors (mostly me) have been battling them and winning.... a miserable controlling bunch of fools they are. I have cost them thousands in attorney fee's......
