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What’s up with wanting to change nicknames of professional sports teams - Washington Redskins, Milwaukee Braves, Cleveland Indians?

Seems like more pussies are caving in.

I went to school in Tecumseh Mi, our nickname was the INDIANS. The town was named "in honor” of the Shawnee warrior Chief Tecumseh. The city of Clinton is 5 miles north - their nickname is the Redskins (nut jobs have tried to change that but failed).

I think this crap is getting out of hand. What if the MLK stature “offends” someone - would that statue be taken down? I’m kidding of course.

It sure looks like the inmates are running the asylum.
Because the movement is really about white lives don't matter.
will we have to rename all the Tecumesh lawn mower engins ????
Originally Posted by jackmountain
Because the movement is really about white lives don't matter.

Yep. You boiled it down to the nut.
Originally Posted by Hubert
will we have to rename all the Tecumesh lawn mower engins ????

You spelled Injuns wrong. 😉
Originally Posted by jackmountain
Because the movement is really about white lives don't matter.

We have a winner!
Around here the BLM (Bureau Land Mgmt)/BOR (Bureau of Reclamation) just changed the names of two campgrounds at the local reservoir.

Chinaman's Campground is now known as Campground 1
Confederate Campground is now known as Campground 2

Both original names memorialize the mining activity around here in the 1860s era.
My high school team name is the Red Raiders. Wonder how long until they push to change it?
Ours is the Braves, Chiefs, Redskins, Warriors and Savages, from varsity jv soph freshman.

We are double A, the Browning Indians are A. So when the JV Chiefs play the Browning Indian varsity, the white kids take a pounding. Toughens them up.

Changing Chinamens and Confederate is just insane, total PC garbage.
People need to stop being a "color" and start being Americans again.
I'm quite happy to say that we don't have any issues here.

It's about a 50/50 native/white mix and there hasn't been much for bad race relation drama.

For whatever reason people here get along.



Guess I've gotten into a couple minor pissing matches but for the most part there is a mutual respect.



Originally Posted by HuntnShoot
Originally Posted by jackmountain
Because the movement is really about white lives don't matter.

We have a winner!


Yep, an elegant turn of phrase.
They don't matter. BLM and liberals tell me that the SOUTH lost, so all Confederate memorials etc need to go. Guess what, the injuns lost, so [bleep] them too.
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
People need to stop being a "color" and start being Americans again.



Exactly. Been saying it for years. One nation, one flag, one anthem. All American.

Hell, I hate the cop flags with blue lines etc. It all creates division. One flag, not a special cop flag, firefighter flag, black flag, gay flag, just the Red, White and Blue.
The ones raising holy hell are the citified Indians. The ones on the Rez are just trying to ph ucking survive. Hell most are Washington redskin fans on the reservations across this great country.
Originally Posted by 79S
The ones raising holy hell are the citified Indians. The ones on the Rez are just trying to ph ucking survive. Hell most are Washington redskin fans on the reservations across this great country.



I hate the redskins... More of a Pittsburgh steelers fan myself...
Originally Posted by SamOlson
I'm quite happy to say that we don't have any issues here.

It's about a 50/50 native/white mix and there hasn't been much for bad race relation drama.

For whatever reason people here get along.



Guess I've gotten into a couple minor pissing matches but for the most part there is a mutual respect.




Some are nice I guess, others are warring mother fu ckers.. Guess which one I am..
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
People need to stop being a "color" and start being Americans again.



Which is exactly what they are. They are not "native" to N America, as human life did not originate on this continent.
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
People need to stop being a "color" and start being Americans again.

This was Teddy Roosevelt's stance on that.

I stand for straight Americanism unconditioned and unqualified, and I stand against every form of hyphenated Americanism. I do not speak of the hyphen when it is employed as a mere convenience, although personally, I like to avoid its use even in such manner. I speak and condemn its use whenever it represents an effort to form political parties along racial lines or to bring pressure to bear on parties and politicians, not for American purposes, but in the interest of some group of voters of a certain national origin, or of the country from which they or their fathers came.

Americanism is not a matter of creed, birthplace or national descent, but of the soul and of the spirit. If the American has the right stuff in him, I care not a snap of my fingers whether he is Jew or Gentile, Catholic or Protestant. I care not a snap of my fingers whether his ancestors came over in the Mayflower, or whether he was born, or his parents were born, in Germany, Ireland, France, England, Scandinavia, Russia or Italy or any other country. All I ask of the immigrant is that he shall be physically and intellectually fit, of sound character, and eager in good faith to become an American citizen. If the immigrant is of the right kind I am for him, and if the native American* is of the wrong kind I am against him….

….Now for our own citizens. We represent many different race strains. Our ancestors came from many different Old World nationalities. It will spell ruin to this nation if these nationalities remain separated from one another instead of being assimilated to the new and larger American life.

The children and our children’s children of all of us have to live here in this land together. Our children’s children will intermarry, one another, your children’s children, friends, and mine. Even if they wished, they could not remain citizens of foreign countries….The effort to keep our citizenship divided against itself by the use of the hyphen and along the lines of national origin is certain to breed a spirit of bitterness and prejudice and dislike between great bodies of our citizens.
Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
Originally Posted by SamOlson
I'm quite happy to say that we don't have any issues here.

It's about a 50/50 native/white mix and there hasn't been much for bad race relation drama.

For whatever reason people here get along.



Guess I've gotten into a couple minor pissing matches but for the most part there is a mutual respect.




Some are nice I guess, others are warring mother fu ckers.. Guess which one I am..


The gay kind?
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
People need to stop being a "color" and start being Americans again.
Not going to happen
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
People need to stop being a "color" and start being Americans again.

This would be nice.
GM saw it coming and dropped Pontiac.

PONTIAC:

Poor Ole Ni qqer Thinks It’s A Cadillac
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Not going to happen



Democrats-ala communists, are masters at divide and conquer. Democrat voters are stupid enough to fall for the con also. They can be bought with something as simple as an Obama phone.
Originally Posted by Hastings
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
People need to stop being a "color" and start being Americans again.
Not going to happen


Maybe there truly is fundamental differences that simply won't allow cultures to live amongst each other in peace.
Not sure of anywhere/anytime in history that it has worked on a large scale.
Divide and conquer ! That’s the leftist agenda.
Originally Posted by shawlerbrook
Divide and conquer ! That’s the leftist agenda.


It’s working.

Isolate Law Enforcement and render them impotent. Separate the populace from lawful protection. Turn populace against Law Enforcement .

Done deal.
Depending on how far this goes, the hurdle will be the rural areas. The protestors will do ok in the cities but have no chance in the rural areas. No food or water they can't make it two weeks. Look at New Orleans after Katrina. They'll eat their own within a month. Biggest problem we'll have is cleaning up the mess and the piles of bodies. Even that, an excavator digging trenches and a couple dozers pushing them in won't take long.

Most on here keep enough supplies to last 6 mos. Won't be an issue.
The Rez has never looked better.

We have all kinds of police and we all agree that we need them.


I love our local law enforcement.


But of course we are considered rural.
Originally Posted by jackmountain
Depending on how far this goes, the hurdle will be the rural areas.



Jack, exactly.
(we were typing at the same time...)
I believe communism was started this way once upon a time far away.......we are part of the problem if we aren't willing to stand up to the mainstream aggression.
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
People need to stop being a "color" and start being Americans again.


I wish it was that easy. I have an older brother (Navajo) that my family fostered, more or less adopted. I've always liked him and thought he had a good head on his shoulders. Watching him be pro blm and the tearing down of statues has been hard. His hope is that the movement will move to native Americans.
A few years back there was discussion between my parents concerning their will. They asked how we felt the most fair way to do things were and we agreed him having a full share was the thing to do even though legally he wasn't family.
I just don't get why the very people that are hoping to spark change look outward and not inward. But then again people would rather blame than take responsibility.

Edit to add:
He does live in Oregon and his wife works for Nike. I can't help but think being surrounded by those two factors has shaped some of his way of thinking.
LMAO.

Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
Originally Posted by SamOlson
I'm quite happy to say that we don't have any issues here.

It's about a 50/50 native/white mix and there hasn't been much for bad race relation drama.

For whatever reason people here get along.



Guess I've gotten into a couple minor pissing matches but for the most part there is a mutual respect.




Some are nice I guess, others are warring mother fu ckers.. Guess which one I am..


The gay kind?
They may have to change the name of the Dallas Cowboys. Cowboys took the Indians land, right. And they were white. That should piss Jerry Jones off.

On another note our high school mascot is a cougar. Pisses all the old sluts off.
And while we're changing the names of everything; how about if BLM changes their name to " Burn,Loot,Murder" then they can keep the BLM initials and BLM shirts & flags, etc.
You will see more Redskins, Indians and Braves hats worn on reservations and Alaskan villages than anywhere else outside the teams' home stadiums. Your average Indian or Eskimo doesn't give a schitt about the use of a mascot in sports. They are actually a draw for fans of native descent.

Like any other group, Native America has its own race and poverty pimps that attended the Jesse Jackson School of Shakedown. They've seen the profits that can be made from the likes of Al Sharlatan and they're going after their slice.
Originally Posted by tpcollins
What’s up with wanting to change nicknames of professional sports teams - Washington Redskins, Milwaukee Braves, Cleveland Indians?

Seems like more pussies are caving in.

I went to school in Tecumseh Mi, our nickname was the INDIANS. The town was named "in honor” of the Shawnee warrior Chief Tecumseh. The city of Clinton is 5 miles north - their nickname is the Redskins (nut jobs have tried to change that but failed).

I think this crap is getting out of hand. What if the MLK stature “offends” someone - would that statue be taken down? I’m kidding of course.

It sure looks like the inmates are running the asylum.

I guess i am not the one to answer this question given my family kind of hunted indians back a long time ago. evil white boy here
Originally Posted by Hubert
will we have to rename all the Tecumesh lawn mower engins ????

I've got a 1937 Pontiac coupe with an indian emblem on it and a 1957 Pontiac Star Chief and I ain't taking anything off of them.
Originally Posted by jackmountain
Originally Posted by Hastings
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
People need to stop being a "color" and start being Americans again.
Not going to happen


Maybe there truly is fundamental differences that simply won't allow cultures to live amongst each other in peace.
Not sure of anywhere/anytime in history that it has worked on a large scale.



Cultures perhaps.

Color (s) make not a spit of difference. (in my experience, all across this country, except the Deep South)

A person of any "color", adopting and adapting to a different culture can generally do well in that culture.

Grandpa came from Sicily and had the job as a young man of going to family gatherings and speaking only English. Telling the relatives they were in a new country and we speak English here. How did they expect to do business with the Irish ice man (yes, it was a long time ago), Jewish deli owner, German baker, Polish butcher, etc.
Originally Posted by jackmountain
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
People need to stop being a "color" and start being Americans again.

This was Teddy Roosevelt's stance on that.

I stand for straight Americanism unconditioned and unqualified, and I stand against every form of hyphenated Americanism. I do not speak of the hyphen when it is employed as a mere convenience, although personally, I like to avoid its use even in such manner. I speak and condemn its use whenever it represents an effort to form political parties along racial lines or to bring pressure to bear on parties and politicians, not for American purposes, but in the interest of some group of voters of a certain national origin, or of the country from which they or their fathers came.

Americanism is not a matter of creed, birthplace or national descent, but of the soul and of the spirit. If the American has the right stuff in him, I care not a snap of my fingers whether he is Jew or Gentile, Catholic or Protestant. I care not a snap of my fingers whether his ancestors came over in the Mayflower, or whether he was born, or his parents were born, in Germany, Ireland, France, England, Scandinavia, Russia or Italy or any other country. All I ask of the immigrant is that he shall be physically and intellectually fit, of sound character, and eager in good faith to become an American citizen. If the immigrant is of the right kind I am for him, and if the native American* is of the wrong kind I am against him….

….Now for our own citizens. We represent many different race strains. Our ancestors came from many different Old World nationalities. It will spell ruin to this nation if these nationalities remain separated from one another instead of being assimilated to the new and larger American life.

The children and our children’s children of all of us have to live here in this land together. Our children’s children will intermarry, one another, your children’s children, friends, and mine. Even if they wished, they could not remain citizens of foreign countries….The effort to keep our citizenship divided against itself by the use of the hyphen and along the lines of national origin is certain to breed a spirit of bitterness and prejudice and dislike between great bodies of our citizens.


Hey jack,

some here don't like this Roosevelt either. He was, after all, .......................................................a Progressive. wink
If you still think this is about racism, and not about the onward march of Marxism, then I can't help ya.
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
People need to stop being a "color" and start being Americans again.


Hodgkin twins cover that.

Americans.
Maybe the Native Americans would be more sensible.

If no mt Rushmore , then no Crazy horse.

Tear down one. Down the other.
Just who are these people who get "aggrieved" at baseball teams named "Indians?" Where are they? Why don't they come out of hiding and explain the problem?

Why should we put up with a very small minority disrupting our lives and traditions? Blacks are only 13% of the population and I would bet that 80% of them don't give a flip about Black Lives Matter. BLM can go to hell.

And Indians? Maybe 1% of the population. There aren't even any reservations in Ohio. In the past surveys have indicated that most Indians are not offended by the name of the Cleveland baseball team. In fact, a lot of them said they were pretty proud of the name.

So what you have is a very small group of stupid white liberals trying to force their twisted morals on America.
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
People need to stop being a "color" and start being Americans again.



BOOM!! Rockin' for the win.

This is a great song not many know about.

Madison Rising, Before The Hyphens Came.

My 5 A.M. alarm goes off, I’m rolling out of bed
I turn the TV on, to wake up and clear my head
I catch the news, just in time to view another stirring of the pot
Talks of in-equality, what people need, and forgetting what they’ve got
But in these times of opposition, the prejudice runs deep
Dividing us by heritage is all they ever preach

Chorus:
They tell us that they really care
But to them it’s just a game
‘Cause we were all Americans
before the hyphens came
When people cared ‘bout who you were
and less about your name
‘Cause we were all Americans
Before the hyphens came

Somewhere down along the line, someone had the great idea
to divide us up by heritage, and profit from that fear
But growing up a while back, before these racial trends
Whether immigrant, or white or black, we just called each other friends
And if we spoke an extra language, it was just another way
To pledge allegiance to the flag, God bless the USA

Chorus

So don’t listen to those talking heads
There’s one thing they forgot
That this Sweet Land of Liberty
Should be one big Melting Pot

So take away the hyphens
We’ll all be the same
No more lines betweens us
Together we’ll remain
Forget about your color
Forget about your name
No more lines between us
Cause we are all the same

Chorus
Originally Posted by hunter4623
My high school team name is the Red Raiders. Wonder how long until they push to change it?


well that is simple to change so its politically correct...

Change the team mascot or symbol from anything to do with Indians...

and replace it with a picture of Lenin or Stalin and make the team symbol a Hammer and Scycle...

give the impression that the Red Raiders are communists instead.. they are pretty popular..

it would work even better in DC , changing the connotation of the Washington Red Skins being Communists...instead of Indians..

easy peasy....
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